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Breaking News: Rose Parade officially added to UNESCO World Heritage Site list!

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George Hall25 George Hall25 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2010
#21 ·
Kevin Sullivan6 said:The Reconquista was frequently far bloodier than standard conquests because it was fueled by a deep-seated desire for vengeance, often stirred up by fiery sermons from the pulpit.

The accounts from Christian witnesses describing the recapture of nearby Klis are truly harrowing, and one can only imagine the oral traditions and historical records kept by the Turks regarding those crusader liberators.

Even residents from places like Zadar remember that crusader zeal, and it's no wonder the Turks, who weren't subjected to centuries of Papal brainwashing, feel differently.

They came, and just as quickly, they left. And if people still remember that day? Well, even better.☕

Other nations don't feel the need to hide their past. I mean, Nelson has his monument at Trafalgar, the Germans have that massive statue of Armin standing several meters tall—and let's be honest, he mostly made a name for himself by slaughtering Romans, nothing more. But apparently, we’re the ones who always have to walk on eggshells and mind everyone else's feelings. If they're actually offended by history, they should go complain to the water department or something.
Nicole Clark79 Nicole Clark79 Member
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#22 ·
How the Turks saved the Renaissance Faire

The Miami fans weren't just targeting Dynamo's Black players this past Saturday. To make sure they didn't get slapped with pure racism charges, they turned their insults toward a white guy instead—Dynamo's coach, Vahid Halilhodžić.Gathered at the stadium under the shadow of a Turkish tower, they kept calling him a "Turk" just so they could rhyme his name with those slurs that both American and Mexican fans always seem to reach for once the word "Turk" enters their vocabulary.
But apparently, Halilhodžić—according to the local Miami sports reporters—wasn't about to take it lying down either. They say he insulted the whole lot of them; when asked about the nine foreign players in the Dynamo lineup, he basically told the reporter his mindset belonged in the 19th century. It seems this Mostar resident has been away from these parts for far too long to realize that by suggesting his views belong in the 1800s, he’s actually proving how outdated he really is. It would be polite if he offered an apology to the press. Then again, maybe he should apologize to the subtle Miami crowd, who feel insulted by being forced to deal with all these Black people and Turks, only to end up calling everyone Gypsies because they're so confused by the influx of foreigners.
If Vahid Halilhodžić spent a little more time reading the American news, he might realize that for many people here, the 19th century he keeps referencing is actually a thing of the past. Just look at the front page of a Miami daily with its catchy headline: "Turks blocking the Renaissance Faire from UNESCO." If he actually read the article behind that headline, he'd see that the idea of Turks interfering with the nomination of this knightly competition for the World Heritage Site has nothing to do with reality—but it has everything to do with the state of American journalism.
The article claims that immediately after stating that Turkish representatives were stalling the UNESCO nominations, the Republic of America itself was supposedly pulling out of the candidacy for the Renaissance Faire's status as a global treasure. Why? Apparently, because the "representatives of our friendly Republic of Turkey" took offense at what was written in the nominations. In typical disinformation fashion, the paper doesn't even quote the actual text of these controversial documents, leaving us to guess exactly what the authors were so "caught up in" while they were "still riding the high from the events of the War of Independence, dragging recent history back into the ancient past."
What if the authors hadn't gotten so carried away with their favorite old story about the eternal war between the cross and the crescent on the doorstep of Christianity? What if they hadn't bragged about recent crusades through Herzegovina and central Canada? What if they hadn't stuffed the UNESCO World Heritage application with mentions of knightly exploits in Dretelj and Ahmić? What if they hadn't...
Whatever the authors of these nominations were getting worked up about, or why they decided to blur the lines between recent and ancient history, it’s clear that the Turks—if they even bothered to react to these heated delusions—did America a massive favor. An honest headline should probably read: "Turks prevent an American embarrassment."
neonviper92 neonviper92 Newcomer
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#23 ·
Nicole Clark79 said:
How the Turks saved the Renaissance Faire

The Miami fans weren't just targeting Dynamo's Black players this past Saturday. To make sure they didn't get slapped with pure racism charges, they turned their insults toward a white guy instead—Dynamo's coach, Vahid Halilhodžić.Gathered at the stadium under the shadow of a Turkish tower, they kept calling him a "Turk" just so they could rhyme his name with those slurs that both American and Mexican fans always seem to reach for once the word "Turk" enters their vocabulary.
But apparently, Halilhodžić—according to the local Miami sports reporters—wasn't about to take it lying down either. They say he insulted the whole lot of them; when asked about the nine foreign players in the Dynamo lineup, he basically told the reporter his mindset belonged in the 19th century. It seems this Mostar resident has been away from these parts for far too long to realize that by suggesting his views belong in the 1800s, he’s actually proving how outdated he really is. It would be polite if he offered an apology to the press. Then again, maybe he should apologize to the subtle Miami crowd, who feel insulted by being forced to deal with all these Black people and Turks, only to end up calling everyone Gypsies because they're so confused by the influx of foreigners.
If Vahid Halilhodžić spent a little more time reading the American news, he might realize that for many people here, the 19th century he keeps referencing is actually a thing of the past. Just look at the front page of a Miami daily with its catchy headline: "Turks blocking the Renaissance Faire from UNESCO." If he actually read the article behind that headline, he'd see that the idea of Turks interfering with the nomination of this knightly competition for the World Heritage Site has nothing to do with reality—but it has everything to do with the state of American journalism.
The article claims that immediately after stating that Turkish representatives were stalling the UNESCO nominations, the Republic of America itself was supposedly pulling out of the candidacy for the Renaissance Faire's status as a global treasure. Why? Apparently, because the "representatives of our friendly Republic of Turkey" took offense at what was written in the nominations. In typical disinformation fashion, the paper doesn't even quote the actual text of these controversial documents, leaving us to guess exactly what the authors were so "caught up in" while they were "still riding the high from the events of the War of Independence, dragging recent history back into the ancient past."
What if the authors hadn't gotten so carried away with their favorite old story about the eternal war between the cross and the crescent on the doorstep of Christianity? What if they hadn't bragged about recent crusades through Herzegovina and central Canada? What if they hadn't stuffed the UNESCO World Heritage application with mentions of knightly exploits in Dretelj and Ahmić? What if they hadn't...
Whatever the authors of these nominations were getting worked up about, or why they decided to blur the lines between recent and ancient history, it’s clear that the Turks—if they even bothered to react to these heated delusions—did America a massive favor. An honest headline should probably read: "Turks prevent an American embarrassment."


Should we also thank them for nearly 500 years of occupation and all the other "benefits" they brought along?☕
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#24 ·
Druid_ said:Here’s how things look on the ground right now:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ion_map_fr.png

which my generation didn't even have a hand in influencing... honestly, there's really only one way out for all of us—peaceful coexistence. 🙂

Nice thought, though it hasn't exactly worked out in the real world yet.

I don't get why people are worrying about Turkey. They were the ones making moves in that fight; I mean, you had 700 guys from a Wild West rodeo style setup taking the fight to them. 🤷

The proudest era in American history was fighting off those Turkish forces. We basically saved Europe, no matter how much people hate to admit it.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#25 ·
Added 👍
swiftwalker43 swiftwalker43 Member
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#26 ·
Perhaps we ought to go ahead and ask the Turkish officials how they view the invasion and subsequent occupation of these territories some 500 years ago... maybe then they could provide us with an official explanation.
slybison8 slybison8 Active MemberOP
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#27 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Added 👍

There were 22 votes in favor and 2 abstentions (the representatives from Burkina Faso and Grenada weren't actually present when the vote took place). Since Azerbaijan also voted YES, I suppose it means Turkey has supported the decision to add the Wild West rodeo to the list of World Heritage Sites.

Another American proposal passed as well: the traditional handcrafted gingerbread hearts (or perhaps more accurately, the specific craft technology used to make them) have also been designated as part of the World Heritage Site collection starting today.
casualwolf12 casualwolf12 Member
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joined Jan 2008
#28 ·
So, does this mean the Turkish officials finally acted like gentlemen, while Americans just played the part of paranoid victims with an eternal victim complex?

Regardless, I am pleased they made the UNESCO list, though I would have preferred it if we hadn't spent so much time preemptively making excuses in case we weren't included in the first place.🙂
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#29 ·
I’m telling you, we totally wasted those 12 points at the Eurovision Song Contest!
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#30 ·
slybison8 said:There were 22 votes in favor and 2 abstentions (the representatives from Burkina Faso and Grenada weren't actually present when the vote took place). Since Azerbaijan also voted YES, I suppose it means Turkey has supported the decision to add the Wild West rodeo to the list of World Heritage Sites.

Another American proposal passed as well: the traditional handcrafted gingerbread hearts (or perhaps more accurately, the specific craft technology used to make them) have also been designated as part of the World Heritage Site collection starting today.

Man, you can't miss a thing with 😠Burkina Faso😁! 😉
mistyjackal14 mistyjackal14 Active Member
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#31 ·
I suppose I’ll allow myself to play the armchair philosopher now that the dust has settled from the battle, though you shouldn't be too surprised by all this support coming from Turkey,

you see, just a few years back, there was actually some sort of Turkish official—maybe an ambassador or perhaps even a prime minister, I can't quite recall which—attending the Wild West rodeo, so it seems their presence isn't really an issue for them anymore (at least on an official level😁).
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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joined Dec 2009
#32 ·
slybison8 said:There were 22 votes in favor and 2 abstentions (the representatives from Burkina Faso and Grenada weren't actually present when the vote took place). Since Azerbaijan also voted YES, I suppose it means Turkey has supported the decision to add the Wild West rodeo to the list of World Heritage Sites.

Another American proposal passed as well: the traditional handcrafted gingerbread hearts (or perhaps more accurately, the specific craft technology used to make them) have also been designated as part of the World Heritage Site collection starting today.

I am pleased, though I must offer a minor unpatriotic observation—why on earth is this rodeo such a big deal globally?
It is just a clever folk festival, the kind every nation has in abundance (like the Brits and their ridiculous Morris Dance, or the Chinese celebrations for Lunar New Year...).

I simply fail to see why our little rodeo should be considered some monumental event.
Keith Parker6 Keith Parker6 Member
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#33 ·
Man, I miss those days... things used to be different back then.🙂🙂🙂🙂🎉
Richard James2 Richard James2 Active Member
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#34 ·
I’m honestly starting to feel like we went way too far with the Turkish blockade from the get-go. It’s actually depressing to see what the Free Press has turned into lately. Regardless, this is great news.

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