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Bank account frozen: What should I do?

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Brian Morris7 Brian Morris7 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2010
#61 ·
First disclaimer: my own account isn't frozen 😁

Lawrence Cruz said:I don't think that's actually possible. From what I understand, an account is either frozen entirely or not at all—it isn't really a sliding scale. It feels more like a technicality to me.

Look, if that's the case, then we aren't talking about a legal issue—it's a technical one.

All that sounds great in theory, but what does that have to do with me? Why should I be the one paying the price because they can't figure out how to fix their own systems? If they aren't capable of handling the job properly, they shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

That’s why I’m wondering if this is actually unconstitutional—and if it is, why isn't anything being done about it? Hasn't anyone filed a formal complaint or even taken this to court yet?

Richard Perez3 said:Look, I’m not even questioning whether they can technically pull it off or whatever. My point is about the fact that they aren't actually charging for those freezes. It’s pretty simple—you’re either locked out of your funds or you aren't. That's not what I was getting at.

I seriously have no clue what you're trying to say there—you're totally lost.

If it's possible to use a standing order to automatically deduct a portion of funds—and if banks can already set up agreements to automatically take, say, two-thirds of a paycheck—then why is this specific thing not possible?

Benjamin Peterson94 said:I haven't had a chance to read through everything yet, but I do have a quick question.

So, about a week and a half ago, my mom's account at JPMorgan Chase got frozen out of nowhere. When she asked them why, they honestly couldn't give her a straight answer.
They just vaguely suggested there might be some outstanding debt somewhere else—maybe an old loan with a Midwest lender or something similar. 🙂
She’s already gone to every single bank where she holds an account to double-check, and they all gave her official paperwork proving she doesn't owe a dime; she even went down to the IRS to get some documentation cleared up.
The bottom line is, she clearly doesn't owe anything, but her account is still stuck in limbo.

Does anyone know what our next move should be?

And there's the mess I was talking about. It wastes people's time and sends them running in circles without any prior notice.
Who do you even contact to file a complaint about this, besides calling the news stations?

I'm sorry, Eloquent, that I don't have an answer for you, but I really hope you guys solve this mystery soon (personally, I would definitely check for any unpaid utility bills or issues with telecom companies—those are usually the culprits mentioned in threads like this)
Lawrence Cruz Lawrence Cruz Active Member
118 messages
joined Jun 2010
#62 ·
Brian Morris7 said:First disclaimer: my own account isn't frozen 😁

Look, if that's the case, then we aren't talking about a legal issue—it's a technical one.

All that sounds great in theory, but what does that have to do with me? Why should I be the one paying the price because they can't figure out how to fix their own systems? If they aren't capable of handling the job properly, they shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

That’s why I’m wondering if this is actually unconstitutional—and if it is, why isn't anything being done about it? Hasn't anyone filed a formal complaint or even taken this to court yet?

I seriously have no clue what you're trying to say there—you're totally lost.

If it's possible to use a standing order to automatically deduct a portion of funds—and if banks can already set up agreements to automatically take, say, two-thirds of a paycheck—then why is this specific thing not possible?

And there's the mess I was talking about. It wastes people's time and sends them running in circles without any prior notice.
Who do you even contact to file a complaint about this, besides calling the news stations?

I'm sorry, Eloquent, that I don't have an answer for you, but I really hope you guys solve this mystery soon (personally, I would definitely check for any unpaid utility bills or issues with telecom companies—those are usually the culprits mentioned in threads like this)

They weren't ready—plain and simple. The legislation had been in development for months, yet the actual instructions didn't land until the final week of the year, right before everything went live on January 1st. FIN had to find a way to make this work, and technically, they did—if you only count what looks good on paper. Three months down the road, the technical side was nonexistent. The staff at FIN were completely overwhelmed by a massive wave of garnishments that hit all at once; it was physically impossible to process them all given the constant stream of new ones arriving daily. As for the banks, the directive was straightforward: stop handling these matters yourselves. Instead, creditors contact FIN directly, and the banks are expected to freeze accounts based on our orders—even though they’re still trying to follow court or attorney mandates, which—let's face it—is already a mess.
Honestly, nothing new here. It’s just like everything else in America—another policy on paper with zero actual support behind it. We’re completely unprepared.

That’s exactly why I’m asking—is this actually unconstitutional? And if it is, why hasn't anyone stepped up to do anything about it yet? Has nobody filed an appeal or even thought about bringing a lawsuit?

I agree—but this just opens up a whole can of worms regarding all the other messy issues we face here in America. It also brings up the question of why someone wouldn't just pay what they owe in the first place to avoid reaching the point of legal garnishment. That said, most of these collections cases end up being over simple cell phone bills.

I didn't quite catch what you were getting at there—seriously.

Me neither. 😁 Smart—let me break this down for you. 😍

If it’s possible to set up a recurring transfer through a standing order—essentially automating a portion of my funds—why can't the bank just follow a previous arrangement to automatically withhold, say, two-thirds of my paycheck? It seems like such a straightforward way to handle things.

A standing order is set up by the account holder to cover specific bills or loan payments—either for a fixed amount or a variable one where the recipient sends the monthly total directly to the bank. Essentially, you can't set up a standing order ahead of time just to pre-emptively cover a garnishment that hasn't even happened yet. It simply isn't possible.

Here is that nonsense I was mentioning earlier—it’s just ridiculous. A guy gets his time wasted and ends up being sent on a wild goose chase, all without any kind of heads-up.
And who else can I turn to for a complaint about this—besides the press?

The bottom line is this: 😁 pay your bills on time 🙂

Regarding the payout for protected income.
Anyone receiving these payments MUST contact the FIN to request a specialized account for protected funds—these accounts can't be frozen (and they won't be), so you have full access to withdraw your money whenever you need to.
Richard Perez3 Richard Perez3 Active Member
215 messages
joined Dec 2014
#63 ·
I’m such an idiot, I was rushing around doing ten other things at once and totally botched this. 😁

What I meant to say was—yeah, yeah, I completely misread how the question was phrased, so my answer was just straight-up wrong. You're right, you can't just freeze part of an account for a specific amount and leave the rest up in the air. I totally misinterpreted the prompt. My bad. 😁
Patrick Collins4 Patrick Collins4 Member
38 messages
joined Feb 2012
#64 ·
Benjamin Peterson94 said:I haven't had a chance to read through everything yet, but I do have a quick question.

So, about a week and a half ago, my mom's account at JPMorgan Chase got frozen out of nowhere. When she asked them why, they honestly couldn't give her a straight answer.
They just vaguely suggested there might be some outstanding debt somewhere else—maybe an old loan with a Midwest lender or something similar. 🙂
She’s already gone to every single bank where she holds an account to double-check, and they all gave her official paperwork proving she doesn't owe a dime; she even went down to the IRS to get some documentation cleared up.
The bottom line is, she clearly doesn't owe anything, but her account is still stuck in limbo.

Does anyone know what our next move should be?

Have her go to the FIN and check there. That's the only way to find out who actually placed the hold and why.
Patrick Collins4 Patrick Collins4 Member
38 messages
joined Feb 2012
#65 ·
Richard Perez3 said:I’m such an idiot, I was rushing around doing ten other things at once and totally botched this. 😁

What I meant to say was—yeah, yeah, I completely misread how the question was phrased, so my answer was just straight-up wrong. You're right, you can't just freeze part of an account for a specific amount and leave the rest up in the air. I totally misinterpreted the prompt. My bad. 😁

Actually, I don't think that's entirely true either. I know of a few businesses where the account is frozen only for the specific amount required by a levy, while they still have access to the remaining funds... 🤷
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
160 messages
joined Oct 2010
#66 ·
Patrick Collins4 said:Have her go to the FIN and check there. That's the only way to find out who actually placed the hold and why.

I guess the right office would be the FIN over in Vicksburg near International, but I'm not really sure if they cover the whole NYC area or what.
Lawrence Cruz Lawrence Cruz Active Member
118 messages
joined Jun 2010
#67 ·
I’m having a bit of a hard time keeping up with these two different freezes over at the FIN 😁 —but maybe that’s just me.😁
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
160 messages
joined Oct 2010
#68 ·
Lawrence Cruz said:I’m having a bit of a hard time keeping up with these two different freezes over at the FIN 😁 —but maybe that’s just me.😁

Don't even sweat it—if you're confused about anything, just ask! 👍
fadedharbor102 fadedharbor102 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Mar 2011
#69 ·
This feels like it’s going to spiral out of control... a friend just told me her account was frozen because she owes money on her Discover card... it's brutal.

Can she even take out a loan to cover that debt if her account is locked?

Or is she just stuck? How is she supposed to survive? This is a debt of $5000 and she only makes about $4,000 a month—once you factor in legal fees, we're looking at roughly $20,000. Does this mean she'll be without any income for five months?😲
Steven Reed Steven Reed Regular
354 messages
joined Dec 2014
#70 ·
It’s honestly appalling to me—it’s just wild—that someone could rack up a debt of $5000 on a salary of $1333, and then, instead of calling their credit card company to negotiate a payment plan or even attempting to secure a loan to clear 🤷, they just sat there letting it fester until their accounts were frozen. Like, the collections process had already kicked in at that point.
Michelle Williams6 Michelle Williams6 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#71 ·
Lawrence Cruz said:They weren't ready—plain and simple. The legislation had been in development for months, yet the actual instructions didn't land until the final week of the year, right before everything went live on January 1st. FIN had to find a way to make this work, and technically, they did—if you only count what looks good on paper. Three months down the road, the technical side was nonexistent. The staff at FIN were completely overwhelmed by a massive wave of garnishments that hit all at once; it was physically impossible to process them all given the constant stream of new ones arriving daily. As for the banks, the directive was straightforward: stop handling these matters yourselves. Instead, creditors contact FIN directly, and the banks are expected to freeze accounts based on our orders—even though they’re still trying to follow court or attorney mandates, which—let's face it—is already a mess.
Honestly, nothing new here. It’s just like everything else in America—another policy on paper with zero actual support behind it. We’re completely unprepared.

That’s exactly why I’m asking—is this actually unconstitutional? And if it is, why hasn't anyone stepped up to do anything about it yet? Has nobody filed an appeal or even thought about bringing a lawsuit?

I agree—but this just opens up a whole can of worms regarding all the other messy issues we face here in America. It also brings up the question of why someone wouldn't just pay what they owe in the first place to avoid reaching the point of legal garnishment. That said, most of these collections cases end up being over simple cell phone bills.

I didn't quite catch what you were getting at there—seriously.

Me neither. 😁 Smart—let me break this down for you. 😍

If it’s possible to set up a recurring transfer through a standing order—essentially automating a portion of my funds—why can't the bank just follow a previous arrangement to automatically withhold, say, two-thirds of my paycheck? It seems like such a straightforward way to handle things.

A standing order is set up by the account holder to cover specific bills or loan payments—either for a fixed amount or a variable one where the recipient sends the monthly total directly to the bank. Essentially, you can't set up a standing order ahead of time just to pre-emptively cover a garnishment that hasn't even happened yet. It simply isn't possible.

Here is that nonsense I was mentioning earlier—it’s just ridiculous. A guy gets his time wasted and ends up being sent on a wild goose chase, all without any kind of heads-up.
And who else can I turn to for a complaint about this—besides the press?

The bottom line is this: 😁 pay your bills on time 🙂

Regarding the payout for protected income.
Anyone receiving these payments MUST contact the FIN to request a specialized account for protected funds—these accounts can't be frozen (and they won't be), so you have full access to withdraw your money whenever you need to.

Under federal law, garnishment is limited to one-third of disposable income unless the debtor consents to more. Now... how does that work for low earners, and what is the best way to protect those remaining two-thirds from seizure?...
Under American law, an employer can technically pay an employee in cash, provided all taxes and withholdings are properly reported... I wonder why those with frozen accounts don't simply ask their employers—especially at smaller firms where everyone knows one another—to handle things that way. Unless a court order dictates otherwise, they could theoretically protect a portion of their earnings... The FIN can easily process the necessary adjustments. In the end, everyone gets paid, and the individual still has enough to live on...
Benjamin Peterson94 Benjamin Peterson94 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2011
#72 ·
Patrick Collins4 said:Have her go to the FIN and check there. That's the only way to find out who actually placed the hold and why.

Well, she already went, and there isn't a single cent of debt on her account!
They just went ahead and froze everything yesterday without even a tiny apology or an explanation—nothing at all.
I honestly can't believe this kind of thing happens. 🙄
fadedharbor102 fadedharbor102 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Mar 2011
#73 ·
Steven Reed said:It’s honestly appalling to me—it’s just wild—that someone could rack up a debt of $5000 on a salary of $1333, and then, instead of calling their credit card company to negotiate a payment plan or even attempting to secure a loan to clear 🤷, they just sat there letting it fester until their accounts were frozen. Like, the collections process had already kicked in at that point.

Google... you see, there are all kinds of people out there.

Capital One actually reached out to her and they agreed on a reasonable installment plan, which she just failed to stick to... so yeah, they're going to collect eventually. Regarding your point, I agree; I can't wrap my head around how anyone lets it get to this stage either.

But on the flip side, it doesn't sit right with me that someone goes five months without seeing a paycheck because of this. Why can't they just take their third and leave the rest available for the person? In the end, they just make everything so unnecessarily complicated by forcing you to open a secondary account. It's maddening.
Steven Reed Steven Reed Regular
354 messages
joined Dec 2014
#74 ·
Clearly, someone had to face the music to learn a lesson 🤷
She agreed to an installment plan—then completely ignored it—running up a debt equal to five months' salary 🤷
Richard Perez3 Richard Perez3 Active Member
215 messages
joined Dec 2014
#75 ·
Just don't fall for that whole "it's so unfair" trap and end up handing her your cash just so she can scrape by. 😉
fadedharbor102 fadedharbor102 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Mar 2011
#76 ·
Richard Perez3 said:Just don't fall for that whole "it's so unfair" trap and end up handing her your cash just so she can scrape by. 😉

Even if I wanted to lend her cash, I'm broke myself!😂

Besides, it’s not actually that bad. She went down to the bank and filed the paperwork to set up a protected account, so she'll receive two-thirds of her paycheck there, while the rest goes toward the blocked account until everything is paid off. They also informed her that the total debt is actually $3400, which isn't the $15,000 she originally thought...

All things considered, it's manageable. We all know that eventually, everything catches up to you. The only thing making it complicated is this whole protected account process; I read online that it takes forever, but the lady at the bank told her it would only take two or three days... we'll see about that.👍
Michelle Williams6 Michelle Williams6 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Oct 2012
#77 ·
Here is an interesting article.
Scott Wells33 Scott Wells33 Newcomer
1 message
joined Aug 2011
#78 ·
I honestly don't get how these government officials—the same ones caught up in massive scandals and owing millions of dollars—can just withdraw cash whenever they feel like it and strut around town like nothing happened. It’s like their bank accounts are untouchable. Meanwhile, for us regular folks? If you owe even a tiny amount, the banks come after you like you're a criminal.
David Barrett6 David Barrett6 Member
10 messages
joined Aug 2011
#79 ·
Michelle Williams6 said:Here is an interesting article.

Direct deposits became the norm mainly because people relied on overdrafts just to stay afloat.
A lot of families used those lines of credit to cover the absolute basics.
Eventually, big corporations started negotiating overdraft facilities for payroll, then moved into shady lending schemes to bypass taxes and payroll deductions... it was just a vicious cycle with the banks.
The whole thing worked fine as long as everyone stuck to a schedule.

Then the government stepped in and ruined it.
I remember watching the payment deadlines stretch from 30 days to 60, then 90, 120, and eventually 180 days.
Sometimes they’d even end up paying out what they owed in six separate installments.
David Barrett6 David Barrett6 Member
10 messages
joined Aug 2011
#80 ·
Scott Wells33 said:I honestly don't get how these government officials—the same ones caught up in massive scandals and owing millions of dollars—can just withdraw cash whenever they feel like it and strut around town like nothing happened. It’s like their bank accounts are untouchable. Meanwhile, for us regular folks? If you owe even a tiny amount, the banks come after you like you're a criminal.


It's pretty simple.

The country fell apart because they kept spending like there was no tomorrow.

Nobody is held accountable for the damage or the sheer incompetence.

The fallout always lands on the people who didn't cause this mess and had no say in it.

Everything is rigged, from the elections to the whole system... and nobody cares.

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