Robin Murphy4 said:If we’re going to keep this conversation going, then let's agree to make it an actual, level-headed discussion—just two people talking without any attacking or judging. Honestly, as a human being, I feel like I have every right to question things, to dig into what's bothering me, or to clear up stuff that feels confusing. I don't believe in just blindly accepting something just because someone else said "that's how it is"—and I'm talking about life in general here, too.
I'm hoping you'll be open to answering a few questions for me, though you should know one thing upfront: when it comes to God and Jesus Christ, my faith is absolute.
1. You used to lead the community, and I attended those sessions for about a year—so we clearly speak the same language when it comes to this stuff. What I'm wondering is, looking back from where you are now (with your current perspective on things), how do you view the help or the healings you received back then? I know you were likely incredibly grateful for them at the time, as well as for the healings others experienced. How do you interpret those healings and everything you went through during that period now?
2. Before you stepped into that leadership role, did you go to church and pray to Jesus, just like you did while you were part of the community?
3. What was the actual turning point that made you decide to leave the community?
I know that's a lot to throw at you, but I'm genuinely interested in hearing about your experience.
Please, don't be angry with me. It is quite common for misunderstandings to arise in discussions like this. My entire framework of thought and belief is rooted in the Bible; it contains the Word backed by God, and I believe everyone who penned its pages was guided by the Holy Spirit. This is why Jesus stated that He did not come to judge the world, but to save it—yet, the Word itself will serve as our judge based on how we have lived our lives in accordance with it.
To address your initial question, I will reiterate what I mentioned in my previous post: these demons, these malevolent spirits, are the underlying cause behind all of those healings. Here is the reasoning. For Satan, the ultimate objective is to distance you from Jesus; anything else is secondary. However, if he perceives that you are striving to elevate yourself spiritually and overcome the limitations of the flesh, he will present you with various alternatives. These paths often incorporate elements of Jesus' teachings, but they do so only partially, ensuring that He is never positioned as the Head.
The way Satan operates regarding healing is quite deceptive: he doesn't actually perform any healing at all, because that is something only God can do. Instead, he simply withdraws his influence from a particular area of your life. As you become more dedicated to the teachings of Bruno Groening, for instance, he begins to distance himself from your very being. Consequently, your body becomes healthy, simply because he was the underlying cause of all sickness in the first place.
To address my second point: yes, I attended church, but my approach was flawed. Instead of praying directly to Jesus, I directed my prayers toward Mary. At the time, I operated under the misguided belief that I had to earn my way to Jesus—that I wasn't worthy enough to simply invite Him into my life. Furthermore, I was praying to Bruno, which constitutes a sin according to the Second Commandment. Deuteronomy 18:10 is quite explicit on this matter, stating that no one should be found among you practicing the burning of their children in the fire, nor engaging in sorcery, witchcraft, divination, or spellcasting; nor shall anyone be a medium or a spiritist who attempts to conjure the spirits of the dead.
He spoke to those who have passed away.Before I departed from the community, I made sure to bring all of this to light. I stated clearly that Bruno had instructed us to follow the teachings of the Bible, yet those instructions were consistently ignored. Greta essentially reinvented spirituality to suit her own whims, creating a belief system that aligned neither with Jesus nor with the Bible. This caused significant friction, leading to heated arguments with the actor portraying Bruno, which ultimately resulted in their separation.
People have essentially manufactured their own versions of "God" because they witnessed the institutional church failing to uphold the teachings found in the Bible, and that is where they lost their way. It is true that many within the Catholic Church have strayed from the path—both in the past and today—but there are Christians out there who have truly been born again. These individuals follow Jesus, rather than following any man, regardless of his title. There exists a true Church, which is His spiritual Church and, ultimately, His Body.
A third question arises. When I first invited Jesus into my heart and encountered Him in that profound way, I received the Holy Spirit. It was through this presence that I was given a clear, undeniable conviction regarding Truth and sin—one of which involved Bruno Groening. Ultimately, the defining turning point of my life was the moment I truly came to know Jesus.
Here is my testimony from my website.
If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask; I am more than happy to provide answers.