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Spirituality and Feminism

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dustyskipper3 dustyskipper3 Active MemberOP
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#121 ·
Larry Wilson5 said:I suppose I’m referring to that inertia when people question gender equality—where men don't even bother asking which sex they are actually being equal to. It serves such a dominant purpose, I guess. Like a heavy grimace holding the whole world together. He doesn't even feel the loneliness; he's just convinced this is how things have to be for men.
Maybe I mean the way knowledge was approached by excluding women entirely. This so-called emancipated woman just imitates the man, who, in turn, identifies with dominance, much like an actor playing a lead role.
A flock lacks consciousness; it only has the authority that drives it. Perhaps it wouldn't be too much trouble to question all authorities. Yet, people stubbornly follow them in their thoughts, their stances, and what they expect from them.
Women possess a masculine nature, and men, a feminine one. We both act for the sake of self-realization, I suppose.
The problem with dominance lies in the distortion of a forced masculine nature. A man recognizes the goal; he is the active force of change. A woman is passive—she receives the impulse and recognizes the space and time.
Being passive means receiving the abstract, the spirit—that space we observe as receivers of ideas. And while that exists in everyone, in the duality of the sexes, it appears first in women. A woman gives birth to change; she recognizes the space where new things are created. Her approach to ideas and knowledge should therefore remain undisturbed by how knowledge organizes life, both universally and humanly. No social structure for thousands of years has managed to ground the idea of the human and ennoble its form, simply because women weren't involved.
All these different structures are just attempts to ground one single idea: the idea of free and equal individuals. Men lose themselves trying to map that idea onto society. They pick winners and losers based on mere practicality. He knows the goal and the will behind the idea, but struggles to force that goal into whatever form is currently at hand.
When it comes to liberation, I think the story of Hansel and Gretel is enough. If only we could figure out who the wicked witch is, tempting us with cookies.
The fire should be clear from the start.
Even though Gretel is enslaved without bars, the moment the fire illuminates the witch, she rushes to help Hansel.
And then society changes.
Instead of a passive state—one that merely receives—we won't have something that just takes orders. And instead of an active state—one that gives—there won't be "the one expressing a raw personality just to avoid being devoured."
Finally, the analyses that are currently suffocating the world might find room for synthesis.
And most importantly, if it were easy to see what binds us, we wouldn't be bound.
The knot is a loop made of our own convictions. One of them is the belief that we are tied.

From what I can gather, no offense, society only changes in the sense that more and more people seem to be siding with Marica, whom they’re basically fueling with that fire. 😂 Meanwhile, Ivica has just retreated into the woods, where he sits mocking us, because the entire time he was stealing treats from the witch's house, he was just waving around this little stick he affectionately called his "little buddy." 😳😍 And now, everyone blames the wicked witch for being part of some old-school establishment, failing to see that back in her day, there were plenty of cookies to go around—and Marica was always there too—whereas nowadays, you couldn't even fit all the lost kids from downtown Chicago into Marica if you wanted to enslave them and force them to eat your cookies in some flowery, sugary passage, let alone anything more substantial. But, gosh, maybe I misunderstood your parable? 🤷

And, if we flip it around, if Marica chooses to support Ivica, could that actually destroy the witch? 😍🤣 Ivica seems a bit lethargic, I guess, and he needs something to snap him out of it, but the witch just lures him with cookies and doesn't spark any passion in him other than an appetite for eating and getting fat. 😬 That doesn't exactly strike me as feminism, but maybe then Ivica will finally get off his butt and build a better world for Marica?
Larry Wilson5 Larry Wilson5 Active Member
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#122 ·
It’s tough; I guess Ivica would just dodge all the responsibility and head off on vacation to get away from the world he built.
Jeremy Davis7 Jeremy Davis7 Active Member
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#123 ·
dustyskipper3 said:Is it actually possible for her physical appearance to be completely irrelevant to how she sees herself? I mean, does she have to become a feminist first to achieve that, or maybe she just needs to be neurodivergent enough that society can't really get under her skin? If she doesn't care about being beautiful herself, how can she remain indifferent when guys are constantly hitting on her or tripping over themselves, or when other women might feel envious or try to undermine her? Maybe it's vital that she feels a bit awkward, or perhaps she struggles with low self-esteem for other reasons, so that her looks don't act as a sort of compensation—because, I guess, she wouldn't want to be viewed as just a pretty doll, but rather as a real person.

It’s a little pretentious to just bury your head in the sand and pretend this whole thing isn't happening.

I guess that's why they invented the niqab.

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