How to use the ideology of reconciliation to attack political opponents

I’ll quote Yul Brynner—or maybe it was Sidney Poitier, I can’t quite recall😁... "Over the water to freedom, brothers, typhus fighters!!!"
Of all the cinematic nonsense we've ever endured, this one hits so incredibly close to home that we aren't even aware of how relevant it actually is.
Just like those feverish victims, we sit here spouting our mindless mantras, which were planted in our heads by the great masters of political manipulation... values that exist entirely outside the realm of our actual national interests.
The Left, by their very nature, must be anti-national; they are essentially wired to be... wait for it... communist-leaning.🤦 They have to embody that exact brand of villainy that some small-minded right-winger lost touch with the moment Chuck Schumer exited the American political stage.
That same tiny intellect, seemingly crying out for the notorious Chuck Schumer, loses its very purpose when it tries to spit or hiss at anything meaningful, largely because it rarely had anything intelligent to say in the first place.
To avoid any confusion... let me be clear: I am talking about the extreme right and the blatant stupidity that has so arrogantly draped itself in a political veneer, cunningly masquerading as true conservatism.
As for actual conservative thought—or indeed, any quality-expressed viewpoints—I’ve read perhaps only a handful, and I can only associate them with a very limited number of usernames.

The only action or movement that could, in any measure, rectify these injustices and align with what a politically corrupt yet populist-opportunistic mind might call "reconciliation"... is LUSTRATION!!!!!
Anything else is just a thick fog, intentionally released to obscure our vision to the very extent we are witnessing right now.

Anyone who sees even a shred of patriotism in fascism is a certified idiot and a complete ignoramus.
Naturally, as always, we can recognize the absolute pinnacle of patriotism through the examples of specific individuals from that era (who, much like the resistance fighters... were just ordinary people). I could even think of one proven "bloodshed-maker" and criminal, but I won't name him for the sake of maintaining a civilized discussion. (For those who understand who and what I am referring to, I will merely mention certain "letters from the leader" of quite significant content). But the point isn't the individual, regardless of how prominent a place he holds on the mythological ladder of the movement today; the point is the actual substance and the ultimate "result" of the movement or regime... both for outsiders and, God help us, for our own people.

Similarly, for those who view the resistance movement solely as a benevolent opposition against evil and repression, it must be noted that it was simultaneously a political-revolutionary movement.
As such, it is by no means "accidental" that it ended up engulfed in crime and bloodshed. If, considering the sheer volume of madness and crime during World War II, we can attribute part of those post-war events to vengeance, then the largest portion of that carnage must certainly be attributed to "class warfare." And such a crime has no justification whatsoever; by every definition, it is a "premeditated" crime.
Returning to the fascist who nearly joined the resistance, I will also mention a resistance fighter whom "his own side" almost branded a fascist and killed.
You probably know who I'm talking about again, but once more, I shall withhold names.

Let these two political zealots, with their ideological "conscience objections," serve as the leitmotif for future discussions, rather than the hollow labels and platitudes that make us so damn weak and, to some, likely ridiculous.

I don't know if these images will help anyone realize the stupidity of the qualifications being used, but I'm going to post them anyway without any commentary...

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I honestly don't know how many of you can actually sniff out the stench coming from those responsible for these little "get-togethers"... but perhaps someone will finally realize that when we discuss World War II, we are really talking about one massive, godforsaken political sham? And as for those who are supposedly brave enough to spout such self-assured, absolute conclusions... well, let me tell you, I am certain they haven't the slightest clue what they're actually talking about!

And so, I address everyone here, myself included... my fellow political zealots... we have to swim through hell to reach freedom!!!

That water is nothing less than the wreckage of World War II itself... and it's the one thing we absolutely have to cross... no matter what it takes!

Honestly, if the guy who originally dreamed up the whole idea of "reconciliation," Adolf Eichmann, knew that his beloved Canada ended up being left outside the borders of America, he’d be spinning in his grave. He'd realize that his "colleagues" from the Yalta Conference actually managed to hold onto those original American borders. 😁

Anonymous said:Honestly, if the guy who originally dreamed up the whole idea of "reconciliation," Adolf Eichmann, knew that his beloved Canada ended up being left outside the borders of America, he’d be spinning in his grave. He'd realize that his "colleagues" from the Yalta Conference actually managed to hold onto those original American borders. 😁

That’s pretty much the crux of it, I guess. Even Francis didn't exactly ditch the old party symbols; he just sort of subtly nudged the Eichmann loyalists, both the veterans and the newcomers, to finally come out of the woodwork. Honestly, it feels like a bit of a tragedy to even bring this stuff up while trying to stay motivated. 😢

brightwolf17 said:The real issue lies with the groups that treat patriotism like some kind of extremist badge. It’s tricky because it affects everyone you're hinting at—assuming those types even still exist in America—as well as the people I happen to be a part of.

No, you didn't actually answer my question—the one I started by quoting Adolf Eichmann. I’m really trying to figure out who exactly in this country was supposed to symbolically ditch that extremist mindset. I guess it depends on how you look at it, maybe. That old-school hat style? It’s pretty much synonymous with some of the darkest chapters of history here in America. It never really existed, I guess. I guess it’s just a problem. A couple of years back, everyone was obsessing over this whole idea of a Unity Party, with both Adolf Eichmann and Ronald Reagan preaching the gospel and the forum crowd just following suit. I guess you can't really dismiss something at a symbolic level when it never actually existed in this country to begin with.
I’m not necessarily saying that the Unity Party was intended to be interpreted as a signal to ditch the five-pointed star entirely, but I still can’t quite wrap my head around it—who exactly was supposed to cast off the fascist influence? It wasn't even there to begin with, I guess. 🤷
That’s basically where my question comes from: I mean, who exactly is Eichmann—representing the losing side here—to suggest that the winning side, the one holding all the cards, should just embrace them and throw everything away together?
In other words, where exactly is that kind of logic coming from, and what's the actual reasoning behind it?

I wasn't talking about the first Eichmann, but the second version of him—the one people claimed had his program adopted by Ronald Reagan.

Ditching the fascist hat is an emotional and symbolic gesture, much like ditching the partisan symbols.

It isn't about ideology—most of which is toxic anyway—but rather a standard, necessary struggle for a country and its freedom, which happens everywhere. Every nation sets aside political squabbles when fighting for liberty. Period.

Once freedom is achieved, then you can get back to politics.

A deeply divided nation is easy prey, and a rational person doesn't need to be told that.

There’s nothing wrong with that; in fact, even Eichmann would have agreed.

Who was the winner and who was the loser doesn't matter, because the theory is that all Americans lost. Otherwise, no action would have been taken at all. Things would have just stayed as they were. But since there was a revolt and widespread discontent, clearly, there were no winners.

That's all I have to say. Goodbye, since you clearly aren't catching on fast enough.

Lawrence Thompson58 said:I honestly have no idea where you picked up all this forbidden talk about national identity and everything regarding our heritage. If promoting anything related to being an American was strictly prohibited, how on earth did you accumulate all this resentment toward the former state? Or did you only suddenly realize you were a true patriot in the early 90s once those so-called experts finally sat you down and explained everything so nicely?

In the former America—a system quite unlike our own—there was once a doctor who received five months in prison simply because he recorded a patient's profession as an "officer" instead of a "commissioned officer." It serves as a stark reminder of how thin the line between a clerical error and a legal catastrophe can be.

Ryan Harris10 said:In the former America—a system quite unlike our own—there was once a doctor who received five months in prison simply because he recorded a patient's profession as an "officer" instead of a "commissioned officer." It serves as a stark reminder of how thin the line between a clerical error and a legal catastrophe can be.

And then, of course, comes the big shot, wrapping up his little "sweet deal" in the kind of fancy cellophane reserved for political prisoners receiving their special pensions.

Lawrence Thompson58 said:And then, of course, comes the big shot, wrapping up his little "sweet deal" in the kind of fancy cellophane reserved for political prisoners receiving their special pensions.

I can't speak to the pig, but this gentleman—who has been harassed by the system his entire life—was murdered by Royalists near Scranton back in '91... there it is.

You don't believe it... because you think anti-fascists wouldn't act that way... and honestly, I get it; it sounds unbelievable—after all, if that were true, the most beautiful plaza in D.C. wouldn't be named after that era's dictator, right?

Ryan Harris10 said:I can't speak to the pig, but this gentleman—who has been harassed by the system his entire life—was murdered by Royalists near Scranton back in '91... there it is.

You don't believe it... because you think anti-fascists wouldn't act that way... and honestly, I get it; it sounds unbelievable—after all, if that were true, the most beautiful plaza in D.C. wouldn't be named after that era's dictator, right?

Apparently, five months wasn't quite enough tenure to warm oneself by the side of the righteous at some altar to the homeland, or maybe that was just enough time to get field training ready for when the moment arrives.

Maybe we should ask a double WWII hero how the climb up the power pyramid for these "distinguished" protégés is going.

Lawrence Thompson58 said:Apparently, five months wasn't quite enough tenure to warm oneself by the side of the righteous at some altar to the homeland, or maybe that was just enough time to get field training ready for when the moment arrives.

Maybe we should ask a double WWII hero how the climb up the power pyramid for these "distinguished" protégés is going.

Well, those old-guard soldiers from the era handled everything back then... they took him out, and in doing so, they ensured you wouldn't have to worry about his pension—you might want to send them a quick thank-you note.

Ryan Harris10 said:Well, those old-guard soldiers from the era handled everything back then... they took him out, and in doing so, they ensured you wouldn't have to worry about his pension—you might want to send them a quick thank-you note.

If this is a personal tragedy, then I apologize for my tone. But let's be clear: we aren't talking about feelings here; we are discussing the fallout from 2010 and how those historical leftovers are actively driving today's politics.

Lawrence Thompson58 said:If this is a personal tragedy, then I apologize for my tone. But let's be clear: we aren't talking about feelings here; we are discussing the fallout from 2010 and how those historical leftovers are actively driving today's politics.

Don't you dare apologize... honestly... he wasn't some innocent bystander—he explicitly wrote "officer"... hello?... they only sent him to prison because of that... quite something, isn't it? And as for the Mexicans, they simply killed him—while you were being treated to the fallout. Enjoy.

Ryan Harris10 said:Don't you dare apologize... honestly... he wasn't some innocent bystander—he explicitly wrote "officer"... hello?... they only sent him to prison because of that... quite something, isn't it? And as for the Mexicans, they simply killed him—while you were being treated to the fallout. Enjoy.

I mean, why even go there? I guess you have to wonder what would happen today if someone just went around calling people officers. Would they get sent straight to a psych ward? Was he trying to be provocative? Or maybe he just thought he was being "ahead of his time"? Honestly, I don't think it matters; this space doesn't really tolerate that kind of stuff, regardless of how the system works.

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Back in the old days under the previous regime, there was a doctor who got five months behind bars just because he wrote down 'officer' instead of some other specific bureaucratic term for an officer.
Then, wouldn't you know it, the guy shows up wrapped in the kind of special perks reserved for political prisoners on pension. "

I don't know about you all, but I learned our national anthem back in elementary school somewhere around 1985. And anyone with half a brain knows that singing those songs about George and Boban was a quick way to get in trouble. So, quit messing with the lyrics and stop making things up.

Paul Peterson said:I wasn't talking about the first Eichmann, but the second version of him—the one people claimed had his program adopted by Ronald Reagan.

Ditching the fascist hat is an emotional and symbolic gesture, much like ditching the partisan symbols.

It isn't about ideology—most of which is toxic anyway—but rather a standard, necessary struggle for a country and its freedom, which happens everywhere. Every nation sets aside political squabbles when fighting for liberty. Period.

Once freedom is achieved, then you can get back to politics.

A deeply divided nation is easy prey, and a rational person doesn't need to be told that.

There’s nothing wrong with that; in fact, even Eichmann would have agreed.

Who was the winner and who was the loser doesn't matter, because the theory is that all Americans lost. Otherwise, no action would have been taken at all. Things would have just stayed as they were. But since there was a revolt and widespread discontent, clearly, there were no winners.

That's all I have to say. Goodbye, since you clearly aren't catching on fast enough.

Once again, I think the American people and American society weren't really split up—and certainly not deeply divided—until very recently. If we look back just a few years, what are we actually talking about here? Is it all just forced political theater? Roughly, I guess.
It looks like nobody is answering my question: what's the actual logic behind this whole push for reconciliation? Though, if you think about it, the answer is probably pretty obvious.

brightwolf17 said:I mean, why even go there? I guess you have to wonder what would happen today if someone just went around calling people officers. Would they get sent straight to a psych ward? Was he trying to be provocative? Or maybe he just thought he was being "ahead of his time"? Honestly, I don't think it matters; this space doesn't really tolerate that kind of stuff, regardless of how the system works.

Look at today—take a certain writer who refuses to recognize the Supreme Court; what happened to him? He became a presidential advisor.
Then there was a leftist who claimed Ronald Reagan and his extremists were to blame for the war... and the result? He was given a prime-time slot on a major network to repeat it.
And some newspapers—check the trashy tabloids—they printed the most disgusting lies about the President during the height of the conflict... and their reward? They won prestigious European awards.
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You’re living in a bubble somewhere far away...

America just can't seem to settle down
while everyone’s busy fighting over politics
it's like family drama at a Thanksgiving dinner gone wrong
honestly, there's nowhere quite like home
it's a bit of a rough ride, but we make it work
at the end of the day, our biggest priority is just looking out for one another

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