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Turkey using chemical weapons against Kurds!

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Gary Parker87 Gary Parker87 NewcomerOP
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#21 ·
Sandra Gonzalez3 said:When Saddam was using that exact same recipe, he was a US ally and nobody even blinked.

That's why I'm not expecting anything. 🙂

The only thing that might happen is the US slapping new sanctions on Iran because the Turks are busy poisoning the Kurds with chemical weapons. 😁

We were all under the impression that Saddam Hussein didn't actually possess any WMD. 😉
Maria Booth Maria Booth Active Member
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#22 ·
Turkey is at a massive crossroads right now. If they keep going down this path, they're gonna start leaning even harder on the Kurds just to mess with the current administration. It’s honestly wild—just like how people who hate Israel suddenly act all "concerned" about Palestinians, the haters of Turkey are gonna start acting all "worried" about the Kurds.
Gary Parker87 Gary Parker87 NewcomerOP
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#23 ·
The American opposition, leaning on the expertise of legal scholars, is citing a former American Minister of Justice in an article published by the largest opposition party in the country. They’re arguing that current policy toward Israel—specifically this so-called "humanitarian convoy" headed for the Gaza Strip—is nothing more than a provocation staged by Erdogan's Islamist regime.

The piece goes on to state (translated into English):
"We hope that the arrogant Mehmed the Conqueror (the Ottoman Sultan who took Constantinople from the Byzantine Empire back in 1453), Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, will get a much-needed reality check from actual global events and stop dragging us down into the chaos of the Middle East."


http://www.ilk-kursun.com/2010/06/kaos/

Given that the Democratic Party is expected to sweep the next elections and kick the Islamists out of power, maybe there's still a glimmer of hope left for America's future.
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Morgan Howard6 Morgan Howard6 Member
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#24 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:The reason you aren't seeing any pushback is pretty simple: Turkey is taking out the PKK using WMDs, and since those folks absolutely loathe us—the good old communists—they’re just sitting on their hands. (They certainly have a history of fighting against communist America, after all.)

But hey, don't you worry your head about it, buddy! I'm sure the cowboys, the freedom fighters, the "good guys," and the democrats—along with all their accomplices in crime—will swoop in with an invasion of Turkey very soon because of those WMDs. They'll go in there to "liberate" the people, much like they stormed Iraq (for those WMDs, remember?) and just like how they keep rattling their sabers at Iran (all because of, you know, WMDs).

It's just a matter of time...


It’s honestly pathetic reading how you try to slap a victimhood label on yourself and your little crew of guerrillas...

Instead of acting like one of those politically biased "liberators," maybe you should actually stop and consider what the people truly want. They want a normal life... not this constant cult of personality worship, these massive "celebrations" for some "great and beloved leader," and executions that make even Adolf Hitler look mild by comparison.
swiftrider15 swiftrider15 Newcomer
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#25 ·
It’s honestly a joke. The US went all in on invading Iraq when they were targeting the Kurds, yet somehow, what Turkey is doing is perfectly acceptable.👎 By that logic, the US really should have stepped in against Turkey instead.☕
frozenheron35 frozenheron35 Member
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#26 ·
swiftrider15 said:It’s honestly a joke. The US went all in on invading Iraq when they were targeting the Kurds, yet somehow, what Turkey is doing is perfectly acceptable.👎 By that logic, the US really should have stepped in against Turkey instead.☕

You know as well as I do that the US couldn't attack Turkey for "that" reason—even if they wanted to, since both countries are part of NATO.
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#27 ·
swiftrider15 said:It’s honestly a joke. The US went all in on invading Iraq when they were targeting the Kurds, yet somehow, what Turkey is doing is perfectly acceptable.👎 By that logic, the US really should have stepped in against Turkey instead.☕

The US didn't invade Iraq because of that.

The US and Iraq were basically best friends back when Saddam was busy gassing Kurds and Iranians with chemical weapons made thanks to his American buddies.

Everything went south once Saddam moved on the Kuwaiti oil fields... suddenly everyone cares about Kurds, democracy, and human rights. What a load of crap.
Gary Parker87 Gary Parker87 NewcomerOP
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#28 ·
Let’s get back to the topic at hand 😉:

Al-Qaeda is accusing Turkey of targeting Muslims:
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/ne...s-muslims.html
coastalridge64 coastalridge64 Active Member
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#29 ·
It’s almost certain that Americans are to blame for this. ☕
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#30 ·
Gary Parker87 said:Let’s get back to the topic at hand 😉:

Al-Qaeda is accusing Turkey of targeting Muslims:
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/ne...s-muslims.html

And who's gonna call them out? These terrorists have one goal: killing Muslims. Period.☕
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#31 ·
Sandra Gonzalez3 said:The US didn't invade Iraq because of that.

The US and Iraq were basically best friends back when Saddam was busy gassing Kurds and Iranians with chemical weapons made thanks to his American buddies.

Everything went south once Saddam moved on the Kuwaiti oil fields... suddenly everyone cares about Kurds, democracy, and human rights. What a load of crap.

...but honestly, that was just a trap set by the Americans for him. They essentially gave him the green light to invade Kuwait just so they’d have a perfect excuse to launch an attack, especially when you factor in the whole WMD thing that turned out to be a total phantom.

It’s pretty clear the cowboys in the US won't touch Turkey because they're simply too powerful. It seems like the Americans only ever go after the weak and unarmed ones who don't have a fighting chance to defend themselves.
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#32 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:...but honestly, that was just a trap set by the Americans for him. They essentially gave him the green light to invade Kuwait just so they’d have a perfect excuse to launch an attack, especially when you factor in the whole WMD thing that turned out to be a total phantom.

It’s pretty clear the cowboys in the US won't touch Turkey because they're simply too powerful. It seems like the Americans only ever go after the weak and unarmed ones who don't have a fighting chance to defend themselves.

Maybe it’s not even about being strong or whatever... it’s about being obedient. And Turkey plays ball, just like Saddam Hussein did. If they weren't following orders, they'd be getting hit with sanctions just like Iran. Imagine if this happened in Iran... the whole world would be buzzing about it for months.

Turkey and Israel are the biggest US allies in the Middle East, and that ain't changing anytime soon.
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#33 ·
Sandra Gonzalez3 said:Maybe it’s not even about being strong or whatever... it’s about being obedient. And Turkey plays ball, just like Saddam Hussein did. If they weren't following orders, they'd be getting hit with sanctions just like Iran. Imagine if this happened in Iran... the whole world would be buzzing about it for months.

Turkey and Israel are the biggest US allies in the Middle East, and that ain't changing anytime soon.

Of course, keeping the imperial powers in the USA happy is always the top priority! It’s funny how history works—Saddam Hussein was considered a "good guy" as long as he did exactly what he was told, but the second he decided to stand his ground, suddenly he was the "bad guy." I totally missed mentioning that nuance in my last post.

At the end of the day, military muscle is the deciding factor when it comes to potential strikes. If Iran were militarily vulnerable, those state-sponsored aggressors in the US would have moved against them a long time ago.
Gary Parker87 Gary Parker87 NewcomerOP
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#34 ·
Sandra Gonzalez3 said:And who's gonna call them out? These terrorists have one goal: killing Muslims. Period.☕

Does that logic hold up when we look at groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, or the PLO? 😉
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#35 ·
Gary Parker87 said:Does that logic hold up when we look at groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, or the PLO? 😉

Or perhaps we should look at the USA—arguably one of the most massive and destructive forces out there, which, purely to serve its own interests, sends its own people straight toward sickness and death.
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#36 ·
Gary Parker87 said:Does that logic hold up when we look at groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, or the PLO? 😉

Apply what exactly?...
Gary Parker87 Gary Parker87 NewcomerOP
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#37 ·
Sandra Gonzalez3 said:Apply what exactly?...

A description, or a definition—whatever you want to call it.
Arthur Ward2 Arthur Ward2 Member
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#38 ·
Gary Parker87 said:We were all under the impression that Saddam Hussein didn't actually possess any WMD. 😉

Turkey has every right to defend its sovereignty and borders against those Kurdish communist separatists—who, let's face it, are a headache for everyone in the region.
Edward Rodriguez89 Edward Rodriguez89 Member
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#39 ·
Arthur Ward2 said:Turkey has every right to defend its sovereignty and borders against those Kurdish communist separatists—who, let's face it, are a headache for everyone in the region.

So by that logic, you were basically backing Slobodan Maddox just because he was trying to hold America together.
Edward Rodriguez89 Edward Rodriguez89 Member
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#40 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:Or perhaps we should look at the USA—arguably one of the most massive and destructive forces out there, which, purely to serve its own interests, sends its own people straight toward sickness and death.

That’s not really on the USA, though. It's about the Jews pulling the strings behind the scenes.

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