Obama handing out diplomas at University of Phoenix

Specifically, if anyone happened to catch the link from this year's promotion for the University of Phoenix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq88j...ayer_embedded#!

Obama gave a speech and handed out diplomas....
Following the presentation of degrees, the President of the United States of America, Barack Obama, recalled his previous visit to the University of Phoenix, asserting that even back then, he was convinced that their students were brimming with knowledge and a drive for success.
"As you enter the workforce, you are entering an environment that is neither simple nor easy. However, our nation stands at a crossroads today, and it is up to you, the youth, to take the lead and build an American economy that is prosperous, European-integrated, and socially conscious," he told the gathered graduates.

As far as I am aware, the students at the University of Phoenix are people who failed to get into any other university and end up studying while working full-time jobs $0.00. Required level of knowledge? Minimal, at best. If you look at certain job postings for fields that the University of Phoenix trains for, some even explicitly mention that candidates should not be from the University of Phoenix, or any other private school "full of knowledge." So, I find myself wondering: is this insistence by Obama that these students are full of knowledge and ambition actually justified?

Do you defend this move by the President? Who are these University of Phoenix students that the President is giving speeches to and handing diplomas to? If the President is going to engage in this kind of politics, why wasn't he at the graduation ceremonies for other state universities and colleges, handing out degrees to much more capable students?

This is truly a banana republic when the President hands out diplomas to a golden elite who simply paid for their degree each year $10667 while most part-time students at state universities and colleges aren't even given a thought.

Even though I am an Obama voter, and so far he has mostly earned my approval regarding his decisions, this one is a massive strike against him in my book....👎div>>

Starting next year, they’ll be joining the University of Phoenix system.

As long as Njavro chips in some cash, I suppose... though even then, the University of Phoenix will likely stay stuck at number 324324324 on those global rankings. 🤦

mellowseal5 said:Specifically, if anyone happened to catch the link from this year's promotion for the University of Phoenix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq88j...ayer_embedded#!

Obama gave a speech and handed out diplomas....
Following the presentation of degrees, the President of the United States of America, Barack Obama, recalled his previous visit to the University of Phoenix, asserting that even back then, he was convinced that their students were brimming with knowledge and a drive for success.
"As you enter the workforce, you are entering an environment that is neither simple nor easy. However, our nation stands at a crossroads today, and it is up to you, the youth, to take the lead and build an American economy that is prosperous, European-integrated, and socially conscious," he told the gathered graduates.

As far as I am aware, the students at the University of Phoenix are people who failed to get into any other university and end up studying while working full-time jobs $0.00. Required level of knowledge? Minimal, at best. If you look at certain job postings for fields that the University of Phoenix trains for, some even explicitly mention that candidates should not be from the University of Phoenix, or any other private school "full of knowledge." So, I find myself wondering: is this insistence by Obama that these students are full of knowledge and ambition actually justified?

Do you defend this move by the President? Who are these University of Phoenix students that the President is giving speeches to and handing diplomas to? If the President is going to engage in this kind of politics, why wasn't he at the graduation ceremonies for other state universities and colleges, handing out degrees to much more capable students?

This is truly a banana republic when the President hands out diplomas to a golden elite who simply paid for their degree each year $10667 while most part-time students at state universities and colleges aren't even given a thought.

Even though I am an Obama voter, and so far he has mostly earned my approval regarding his decisions, this one is a massive strike against him in my book....👎div>>

It’s not just justified, it’s honestly kind of hilarious
but hey, I guess they felt it was "appropriate" to say that, probably leaning on that whole "loaded with knowledge" line
I mean... he couldn't just tell them to their faces: you're full of love but know absolutely nothing😁

Are we really defending this move by the President? Who even are these University of Phoenix students for the President to be giving speeches and handing out diplomas to them? If the President is going to play politics like this, why wasn't he at graduation ceremonies for other major state universities and colleges, handing out degrees to way more talented students?

Man, this move is just pathetic... I don't get why he even felt the need to do it
he’s supposed to be a smart guy, he didn't need this little excursion to the University of Phoenix
if he’s gonna show up to graduations, it should at least be for some respectable institution☕

Even though I'm an Obama voter and his decisions have mostly been solid for me so far, this one is a massive strike against him...👎

Yeah, I'm with you on that👎

stormystag16 said:It’s not just justified, it’s honestly kind of hilarious
but hey, I guess they felt it was "appropriate" to say that, probably leaning on that whole "loaded with knowledge" line
I mean... he couldn't just tell them to their faces: you're full of love but know absolutely nothing😁

Are we really defending this move by the President? Who even are these University of Phoenix students for the President to be giving speeches and handing out diplomas to them? If the President is going to play politics like this, why wasn't he at graduation ceremonies for other major state universities and colleges, handing out degrees to way more talented students?

Man, this move is just pathetic... I don't get why he even felt the need to do it
he’s supposed to be a smart guy, he didn't need this little excursion to the University of Phoenix
if he’s gonna show up to graduations, it should at least be for some respectable institution☕

Even though I'm an Obama voter and his decisions have mostly been solid for me so far, this one is a massive strike against him...👎

Yeah, I'm with you on that👎

People who can afford tuition at $12 per year—they clearly deserved to have the President himself hand them those diplomas... I mean, who do they think they are, right?...

Was he even invited to the graduation ceremony?

Carl Foster8 said:Was he even invited to the graduation ceremony?

I don't think he even cares about that.

Zachary Collins2 said:People who can afford tuition at $12 per year—they clearly deserved to have the President himself hand them those diplomas... I mean, who do they think they are, right?...

well, that's how it looks... 🤷

Was he even invited to the commencement ceremony?

nah, pretty sure an uninvited guest wouldn't just show up there...

stormystag16 said:well, that's how it looks... 🤷

Was he even invited to the commencement ceremony?

nah, pretty sure an uninvited guest wouldn't just show up there...

What I meant was whether he was invited to the graduation ceremonies for other universities.

Carl Foster8 said:What I meant was whether he was invited to the graduation ceremonies for other universities.

Doubtful...
I mean, why would anyone bother inviting the President to those things anyway? 🤷

Vern. About eight or nine years ago, I had a roommate who went to the University of Phoenix. He managed to pass his French exam with a B. The catch? He hadn't even cracked a textbook the entire semester. How did he pull it off? Pure telepathy, apparently. He basically worked the system by handing his student ID to someone else, who then handed it back with a passing grade. The cost? A mere few hundred bucks. And honestly, what’s a little bit of cash compared to the "knowledge" he supposedly gained? 😁

So, you're telling me private colleges are actually worthless? Honestly, the situation here feels like the exact opposite of how things work abroad—you know, over in England or the States...

restlessscout5 said:So, you're telling me private colleges are actually worthless? Honestly, the situation here feels like the exact opposite of how things work abroad—you know, over in England or the States...

I honestly think the only real value of that school—if you can even call it a college—is the networking. Since most of the students there come from wealthy families, entrepreneurs, or high-level execs, you end up making connections that are absolutely vital for anyone trying to climb the corporate ladder later on... Let’s be real, we all know how much those "connections" actually matter in the job market.

As for the quality of the education? Word is it's a joke. I heard their math exams are basically at a freshman year of high school level... supposedly.

If I recall correctly, even Mason used to hand out diplomas to those "University of Phoenix" types... It all feels a bit too much like elitism to me. Like they're some upper class—children of the rich and successful—while everyone else is just told to wait in line at the service desk. 🙂

Whatever, I don't really care. 😁 Personally, I still maintain that when it comes to the private sector, actual knowledge is the last thing people check—it's purely about what you can do. No one ever bothered asking me where I went to school once they saw what I actually knew how to handle... (And I put way more hours into mastering my craft than someone who coasted through a degree via those "connections." That's 15 years of grinding on specific skills, constantly teaching myself new things just to keep pace with how fast technology moves.)

feraldriver8 said:I honestly think the only real value of that school—if you can even call it a college—is the networking. Since most of the students there come from wealthy families, entrepreneurs, or high-level execs, you end up making connections that are absolutely vital for anyone trying to climb the corporate ladder later on... Let’s be real, we all know how much those "connections" actually matter in the job market.

As for the quality of the education? Word is it's a joke. I heard their math exams are basically at a freshman year of high school level... supposedly.

If I recall correctly, even Mason used to hand out diplomas to those "University of Phoenix" types... It all feels a bit too much like elitism to me. Like they're some upper class—children of the rich and successful—while everyone else is just told to wait in line at the service desk. 🙂

Whatever, I don't really care. 😁 Personally, I still maintain that when it comes to the private sector, actual knowledge is the last thing people check—it's purely about what you can do. No one ever bothered asking me where I went to school once they saw what I actually knew how to handle... (And I put way more hours into mastering my craft than someone who coasted through a degree via those "connections." That's 15 years of grinding on specific skills, constantly teaching myself new things just to keep pace with how fast technology moves.)

exactly, you can network there, sure, but you can do that at any other college, plus you actually learn something at most of them

and yeah, their exams are a total laugh... I have two friends going to private colleges, so I see firsthand how little time they actually spend hitting the books compared to a student at a state university, no matter how easy that might be

honestly, who would even bother hiring someone with a degree from a private school when everyone knows what the deal is there
okay, fine, there's the networking and all that, but you still need to actually know how to do something
I mean, he didn't get those connections because of his skills, just because he happened to be standing in the same room as those people...

restlessscout5 said:So, you're telling me private colleges are actually worthless? Honestly, the situation here feels like the exact opposite of how things work abroad—you know, over in England or the States...

Those institutions have been evolving since the 1700s. They operated under entirely different standards back then...

Henry Myers3 said:Vern. About eight or nine years ago, I had a roommate who went to the University of Phoenix. He managed to pass his French exam with a B. The catch? He hadn't even cracked a textbook the entire semester. How did he pull it off? Pure telepathy, apparently. He basically worked the system by handing his student ID to someone else, who then handed it back with a passing grade. The cost? A mere few hundred bucks. And honestly, what’s a little bit of cash compared to the "knowledge" he supposedly gained? 😁

Nobody was passing French at Vernon 8 or 9 years ago because nobody was even trying to pass... I was right there during that time, so I know for a fact how it was.

As far as this topic goes, once again, it’s just an endless flood of nothing but prejudices and assumptions...

I honestly don't have the energy to sit here and explain myself... maybe Jack will jump in, he's absolutely crushed people on threads like this before...

Nothing... so why don't you enlighten us then? Just tell us straight up what it's actually like studying at a private college 🙂

stormystag16 said:Nothing... so why don't you enlighten us then? Just tell us straight up what it's actually like studying at a private college 🙂

Honestly,😉

just imagine paying full tuition for your son $12 year, only for him to roll back into the house and tell you he failed his classes... who would even have the heart to lay into him about it? 😉

I don't see why a high-tuition university couldn't have students who are actually passionate about their field and working hard to excel, regardless of whether they come from wealthy families. 🤷
Does having money somehow make them stupid, mentally slow, or just universally hated by people like us on these forums? ☕ Personally, I’d bet on the last one long before the first two.

You find all kinds of students at any college, including at Vernon. No matter which degree you grab in the US, you're basically unemployable when you graduate. You might know the theories better than the authors of the textbooks you studied, but your only real exposure to practical application is through American TV shows. ☕

😁 😁

I mean, look... I’m just assuming there aren't actually any decent, hard-working students over there who genuinely want to learn and kill it in their field. Because if there were, I don't get why they wouldn't just enroll at some respectable university where their degree actually means something, instead of settling for a place like this.