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Henry Adams5 Henry Adams5 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Rather than simply sitting at home and complaining about the lack of fresh faces in our political landscape, I have decided to take the initiative and dive into the fray myself.

My first and only serious consideration was the Democratic Party. The other major players—the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Liberal Party, the Republican Party, and even the Libertarian Party—were completely off the table due to their endless cycle of scandals. To put it bluntly, those corrupt organizations, which function more like organized crime syndicates than political parties, were never an option for me.

The Democratic Party, on the other hand, seemed relatively free of such controversies—at least from what I could gather. However, after sending them an email containing some fundamental inquiries, I sat waiting, only to be met with total silence for over two weeks. That lack of responsiveness was enough to prompt a second follow-up, and when that too went unanswered, I realized I had to move on from them as well.

So, where does that leave me? Should I consider joining the Democratic Party instead?

And please, spare me the advice telling me to just give up; I am not backing down. Period.
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
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joined Jan 2012
#2 ·
Seriously, just go join the local public library instead. There are way more young, sharp people hanging out there that you can actually network with and swap emails with. Plus, you can finally grab a copy of Milardovic’s book on political parties during the era of transition and globalization
Austin Barrett5 Austin Barrett5 Member
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joined Jul 2012
#3 ·
Henry Adams5 said:Rather than simply sitting at home and complaining about the lack of fresh faces in our political landscape, I have decided to take the initiative and dive into the fray myself.

My first and only serious consideration was the Democratic Party. The other major players—the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Liberal Party, the Republican Party, and even the Libertarian Party—were completely off the table due to their endless cycle of scandals. To put it bluntly, those corrupt organizations, which function more like organized crime syndicates than political parties, were never an option for me.

The Democratic Party, on the other hand, seemed relatively free of such controversies—at least from what I could gather. However, after sending them an email containing some fundamental inquiries, I sat waiting, only to be met with total silence for over two weeks. That lack of responsiveness was enough to prompt a second follow-up, and when that too went unanswered, I realized I had to move on from them as well.

So, where does that leave me? Should I consider joining the Democratic Party instead?

And please, spare me the advice telling me to just give up; I am not backing down. Period.

The Libertarian Party of Ante Starčević?
Anthony Moore13 Anthony Moore13 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2013
#4 ·
Just hang tight for a little bit longer—once the next election cycle kicks off, something is bound to pop up.

http://www.reaganfoundation.org/
Andrew Mendoza10 Andrew Mendoza10 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#5 ·
Look, the kids in politics are no different from the old guard—they’re all just looking for their own slice of the pie. I had this friend once—well, an acquaintance now, life sort of pulled us in different directions—who’s actually in the Democratic Party. He’s even running the youth wing in his city (and it’s not some tiny suburb, either). Honestly? The guy is decent. We used to hang out, grab drinks, talk about everything under the sun. I could actually see him becoming mayor or stepping into something bigger one day. Thinking back on it, he isn't a bad choice; compared to the usual vultures circling in politics, at least he has a conscience and some actual values. But then again, don't you think those high-level roles require someone who possesses all those traits plus a whole lot more?
Nathan Ortiz2 Nathan Ortiz2 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Austin Barrett5 said:The Libertarian Party of Ante Starčević?

More like the Republican Party of Ante Starčević 🙂
Nathan Ortiz2 Nathan Ortiz2 Newcomer
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#7 ·
Henry Adams5 said:Rather than simply sitting at home and complaining about the lack of fresh faces in our political landscape, I have decided to take the initiative and dive into the fray myself.

My first and only serious consideration was the Democratic Party. The other major players—the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Liberal Party, the Republican Party, and even the Libertarian Party—were completely off the table due to their endless cycle of scandals. To put it bluntly, those corrupt organizations, which function more like organized crime syndicates than political parties, were never an option for me.

The Democratic Party, on the other hand, seemed relatively free of such controversies—at least from what I could gather. However, after sending them an email containing some fundamental inquiries, I sat waiting, only to be met with total silence for over two weeks. That lack of responsiveness was enough to prompt a second follow-up, and when that too went unanswered, I realized I had to move on from them as well.

So, where does that leave me? Should I consider joining the Democratic Party instead?

And please, spare me the advice telling me to just give up; I am not backing down. Period.

Democratic Party 😕 Interesting. It looks like you haven't been following the news lately, so let me catch you up: the Republican Party and the Democratic Party have moved closer again and announced a partnership. Apparently, Vesna Makazica is claiming that the era of Ivo Sanders is over and that they can finally work alongside the Republican Party. 😂 Truly a disturbed individual. ☕
cosmicfox69 cosmicfox69 Member
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#8 ·
Quick question: how old are you anyway?
Here’s how I see things; if you don't have a pretty stable, secure life set up for yourself—and maybe a solid degree to back you up—then honestly, you probably shouldn't be jumping into politics.
No offense intended, but if you meet those two little criteria I just thought of, you're likely just looking for a quick "win" or a cozy government job. Or, I guess, you might be one of those blind idealists who is just going to end up totally disillusioned really soon. 😁

If that isn't you, then hey, go for it! Since the whole scene feels like a total mess right now, it's hard to actually fail because, let's be real, nobody in the mainstream is even that good. Maybe just take a beat, look at all these different "stances," and really make up your mind.
goldenpuma84 goldenpuma84 Active Member
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#9 ·
Henry Adams5 said:Rather than simply sitting at home and complaining about the lack of fresh faces in our political landscape, I have decided to take the initiative and dive into the fray myself.

My first and only serious consideration was the Democratic Party. The other major players—the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Liberal Party, the Republican Party, and even the Libertarian Party—were completely off the table due to their endless cycle of scandals. To put it bluntly, those corrupt organizations, which function more like organized crime syndicates than political parties, were never an option for me.

The Democratic Party, on the other hand, seemed relatively free of such controversies—at least from what I could gather. However, after sending them an email containing some fundamental inquiries, I sat waiting, only to be met with total silence for over two weeks. That lack of responsiveness was enough to prompt a second follow-up, and when that too went unanswered, I realized I had to move on from them as well.

So, where does that leave me? Should I consider joining the Democratic Party instead?

And please, spare me the advice telling me to just give up; I am not backing down. Period.

Well, ideally, before you pick a party, you should figure out your own worldview and values. Once you realize you're, say, more right-leaning, you find the party whose platform fits best. Then you narrow it down and, if you still have the drive, sign up. Unless, of course, you have other motives for jumping into politics.

Jumping from a center-right Democratic Party to a hyper-local Democratic Party seems a bit pointless to me. Besides, the Democratic Party doesn't have national scandals because they've only held power symbolically once, so they haven't had the chance to mess up on a big scale yet.
Henry Adams5 Henry Adams5 MemberOP
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#10 ·
Harvey_1;27294981 said:The question is, how young are you?
My perspective is somewhat simple: unless you have already established a relatively stable and secure lifestyle, paired with a high-quality degree, there is little reason to enter the world of politics.
No offense intended, but if you happen to satisfy those two quick criteria I’ve just mentioned, you are likely either chasing rapid "success" through political appointments, or perhaps you are a blind idealist who will inevitably face a harsh reality check very soon. 😁

As for my own existence... well, let us say I have secured my housing situation and I possess a solid technical degree—one that was certainly sufficient for those working within the USA. 🙂

Ultimately, my point is that having worked abroad for quite some time, I find myself unable to wrap my head around the sheer amount of untapped potential this country possesses, yet it seems no one recognizes it or knows how to harness it.

Anyone who has lived overseas understands exactly what I am talking about.
Henry Adams5 Henry Adams5 MemberOP
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#11 ·
goldenpuma84 said:Well, ideally, before you pick a party, you should figure out your own worldview and values. Once you realize you're, say, more right-leaning, you find the party whose platform fits best. Then you narrow it down and, if you still have the drive, sign up. Unless, of course, you have other motives for jumping into politics.

Jumping from a center-right Democratic Party to a hyper-local Democratic Party seems a bit pointless to me. Besides, the Democratic Party doesn't have national scandals because they've only held power symbolically once, so they haven't had the chance to mess up on a big scale yet.


We all know that the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are the only major players guaranteed to secure seats in the US Congress, yet neither of them is an option for me. I have absolutely no desire to be associated with criminals!

Voting for the Republican Party or the Democratic Party simply because they founded America, or because their grandfather was a partisan, a collaborator, or a radical, represents the most foolish reasoning I have ever encountered.

The second World War and the American Civil War are behind us; we really ought to be looking toward the future!

As for the Libertarian Party... ever since Ante Đapić allegedly stole the master's degree that the rest of us had to earn through sheer hardship, grueling work, sleepless nights, and endless exams, they are completely out of the question for me.

By doing this, I am also eliminating other right-wing options, as I fail to see any coherent ideas within them.

The whole situation feels somewhat like watching an old, poorly made movie where you already know every single line and can predict every plot twist.
gentlestag3 gentlestag3 Active Member
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#12 ·
for Boris
mellowbear49 mellowbear49 Newcomer
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#13 ·
It’s like they say—once you finally land that degree, everyone suddenly wants to give you a big hug.

I’m hearing some buzz that things are actually picking up over at the Liberal Party—like they might be making some real moves lately. Check it out. Get yourself up to speed.
Henry Adams5 Henry Adams5 MemberOP
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#14 ·
mellowbear49 said:It’s like they say—once you finally land that degree, everyone suddenly wants to give you a big hug.

I’m hearing some buzz that things are actually picking up over at the Liberal Party—like they might be making some real moves lately. Check it out. Get yourself up to speed.


That sounds quite intriguing...👍
stormystag16 stormystag16 Active Member
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#15 ·
Henry Adams5 said:Rather than simply sitting at home and complaining about the lack of fresh faces in our political landscape, I have decided to take the initiative and dive into the fray myself.

My first and only serious consideration was the Democratic Party. The other major players—the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Liberal Party, the Republican Party, and even the Libertarian Party—were completely off the table due to their endless cycle of scandals. To put it bluntly, those corrupt organizations, which function more like organized crime syndicates than political parties, were never an option for me.

The Democratic Party, on the other hand, seemed relatively free of such controversies—at least from what I could gather. However, after sending them an email containing some fundamental inquiries, I sat waiting, only to be met with total silence for over two weeks. That lack of responsiveness was enough to prompt a second follow-up, and when that too went unanswered, I realized I had to move on from them as well.

So, where does that leave me? Should I consider joining the Democratic Party instead?

And please, spare me the advice telling me to just give up; I am not backing down. Period.

Are you freaking kidding me right now?!
i mean, how on earth are you picking a party like that???
you could pretty much find a spot on either the far left or the far right if you wanted to...

honestly, i feel like most people jump into politics just to be opportunists, and the few who actually join because of ideals usually end up staying because of opportunism....

let's say you actually *do* have some ideals... well, if that's true, then you can't just flirt with the center, the left, and the right all at once.... you have to actually align with someone's worldview and offer them fresh ideas that don't fundamentally clash with the main current...

but if you're just motivated by the actual impact you could make, then go join one of the heavy hitters...
amberwalker4 amberwalker4 Active Member
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joined Mar 2013
#16 ·
Nathan Ortiz2 said:More like the Republican Party of Ante Starčević 🙂

Exactly. As for choosing a party, I’d suggest looking into the American Independent Party or the Libertarian Party.
Henry Adams5 Henry Adams5 MemberOP
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#17 ·
stormystag16 said:Are you freaking kidding me right now?!
i mean, how on earth are you picking a party like that???
you could pretty much find a spot on either the far left or the far right if you wanted to...

honestly, i feel like most people jump into politics just to be opportunists, and the few who actually join because of ideals usually end up staying because of opportunism....

let's say you actually *do* have some ideals... well, if that's true, then you can't just flirt with the center, the left, and the right all at once.... you have to actually align with someone's worldview and offer them fresh ideas that don't fundamentally clash with the main current...

but if you're just motivated by the actual impact you could make, then go join one of the heavy hitters...


If you take a closer look... the red, the black, the leftists, the conservatives, the centrists... in America, it all seems to boil down to the exact same thing, doesn't it? It isn't as though the distinctions are glaringly obvious; personally, I struggle to see them at all.

Is it not strange that among all these mighty parties and representatives sitting in the US Congress, all claiming to hold diverse ideals and perspectives, not a single soul has ever truly stood up and said, "Alright, enough is enough!"?

Most people find it laughable when they see someone like Ivo Rojs on television making statements in front of the cameras—even right there in the halls of Congress—that will surely go down in modern history with lines like, "Whoever guaranteed it, guaranteed it..." and everyone just sits there smiling because they know exactly what he means, yet absolutely nobody does anything about it!

I am well aware that most people view him as nothing more than a clown, but I sincerely hope that people also grasp the gravity of such a statement and realize how much room there is for actual seriousness, rather than just finding it funny.

So, as I was saying, whether they are red, black, left, right, or centrist, all those differences represent a big zero to me.

Unfortunately, my only criteria are that the rule of law functions properly and that the nation experiences economic prosperity—goals that every single party has written into their own charters.
Henry Adams5 Henry Adams5 MemberOP
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#18 ·
By the way, the Liberal Party has faded away entirely....
stormystag16 stormystag16 Active Member
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joined Jun 2010
#19 ·
Henry Adams5 said:If you take a closer look... the red, the black, the leftists, the conservatives, the centrists... in America, it all seems to boil down to the exact same thing, doesn't it? It isn't as though the distinctions are glaringly obvious; personally, I struggle to see them at all.

Is it not strange that among all these mighty parties and representatives sitting in the US Congress, all claiming to hold diverse ideals and perspectives, not a single soul has ever truly stood up and said, "Alright, enough is enough!"?

Most people find it laughable when they see someone like Ivo Rojs on television making statements in front of the cameras—even right there in the halls of Congress—that will surely go down in modern history with lines like, "Whoever guaranteed it, guaranteed it..." and everyone just sits there smiling because they know exactly what he means, yet absolutely nobody does anything about it!

I am well aware that most people view him as nothing more than a clown, but I sincerely hope that people also grasp the gravity of such a statement and realize how much room there is for actual seriousness, rather than just finding it funny.

So, as I was saying, whether they are red, black, left, right, or centrist, all those differences represent a big zero to me.

Unfortunately, my only criteria are that the rule of law functions properly and that the nation experiences economic prosperity—goals that every single party has written into their own charters.

okay, most of them are definitely on the same wavelength, but there are still differences... I don't think anyone with half a brain would want to be part of a party that's sheltering Rojs and guys like him...
mellowbear49 mellowbear49 Newcomer
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#20 ·
Henry Adams5 said:By the way, the Liberal Party has faded away entirely....

But why?

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