The total collapse of moral values in Europe and America. So what?

restlessfox5 said:I’m not even gonna bring up America here—honestly, there isn't a single political party or group in this country that actually uses "family values" as a real platform unless they're just trying to suck up to the Church.
Look, I’m not a conservative myself, so "Christian values" don't really move the needle for me personally, but it's pretty obvious those values—whether you call them family-oriented, moral, whatever—are in a tailspin. And from what I can see, it's happening without any real fallout for society.

Sure, some people will point to rising crime rates or the economy tanking, but if you look at the stats in the US or across Europe, crime isn't actually spiking—it's often dropping—it just feels different because of how the media spins it. As for the economic mess? That's got its own set of issues, and the fallout hits "decadent" places just as hard as conservative ones.

The real question is: how much does this breakdown of moral values actually impact a country? Because if there aren't any negative consequences, then what's the whole point of social conservatism anyway?

To even begin defining negative consequences, you first need some kind of moral framework... a system to decide what counts as positive versus negative. Everything hinges on the criteria used to judge behavior. For instance, one person might argue it doesn't matter whether someone switches partners every few years or stays in a stable marriage, provided their lifestyle doesn't cause financial harm. Others, however, would insist that only stable relationships have any real value, while everything else is just a series of mistakes or a sign of poor taste.

It’s true that statistics show children raised by single mothers, including those with a string of temporary partners, often turn out a bit troubled. There is actually a really solid article by Theodore Dalrymple regarding the state of the family and family values in the United Kingdom: Childhood's End. From the perspective of social utility—things like general public safety and a functioning society—you could argue that the decay of conservative values has negative consequences. After all, most people would prefer a society where kids aren't attacking teachers with knives and where teen pregnancy and drug use are kept in check. But kids might argue they prefer the alternative because they're having more fun, and hey, if someone wants to risk an overdose, that's their right. The little catch is that taxpayers don't really have a choice; they either have to fund social services for individuals prone to risky behavior, or pay for extra measures to protect against the resulting violence and crime.

So, looking at it from the standpoint of society and a common sense understanding of utility, the stronger arguments tend to favor the conservative side. But to provide a rock-solid definition of what is "good" or "bad," we would need a much deeper concept of what makes a way of life meaningful. We would need a moral framework that isn't built purely on utilitarianism... because from a strictly functionalist viewpoint, you could even support that claim Kristol attributes to liberals—that it's perfectly fine for minors to film pornography as long as they're getting paid a decent wage.

Robin Ramos2 said:We absolutely can be more moral if we subscribe to the superiority of our own value system. However, within the context of moral relativism—if everything is truly relative and there is no superior or inferior standard—then, I suppose, one could argue that something like female genital mutilation is just "cultural enrichment," or at least something we should show understanding toward because it belongs to a different, morally equivalent culture.

As far as genetics go, it's obvious there are genetic differences between races. That's just normal; different racial groups evolved under vastly different conditions. It’s clear that environment and surroundings are factors in the development of species and subspecies, and nobody would question the genetic differences between a North American Mustang or certain Arabian horse breeds. Yet, the moment you talk about humans, suddenly it becomes this massive taboo. It's plain to see that Black people are physically more capable than white people. Similarly, it’s clear they are less intelligent than white people, who in turn are less intelligent than Asian people. Regarding Black people, they also have a deficit in communication skills; over 80% of communication happens through facial expressions, yet in Black people, those facial expressions are far less developed. Etc, etc. Furthermore, regarding fidelity—which is tightly linked to the concept of responsibility toward offspring—it is known in the animal kingdom that individuals with a smaller ratio of penis size to body size tend to be more faithful. Black men, on average, have a larger ratio of penis size to body, and that reflects in their approach to monogamy. Studies of Black cultures indicate, with very few exceptions, an emphasis on reproductive success and an alpha-male culture of dominance, where the goal is to see who can fertilize more women and spread their seed.

In any case, you can claim that among white people there are bad fathers and that poor fatherhood is a consequence of poverty (is it really?? Or perhaps poverty is the logical consequence of a broken value system—this isn't meant to be a moral condemnation, just a techno-economic observation)—but it's clear that Africa has an extremely high number of single-parent households. It's also clear that Black Americans make up more than half of all single-parent households in the USA. Slavery is a common excuse, even though today's Black Americans are two or three generations removed from slavery (roughly how far we are from the end of the Turk invasions), and even though it's clear that Black people had much better family lives in the conservative 50s and 60s than they have in recent liberal decades. It's quite clear that children from single-parent families are more likely to end up as criminals or face milder or more severe socialization issues.

Genetic differences between races are practically negligible. Recent data even suggests that the genetic variance within Black populations—specifically among Hottentots—is actually greater than the variation you'd find between a Swede and a Mongol...

Where’s the actual evidence to support the claim that Black people are physically more capable than white people?

Where is the actual data to support the claim that whites are less intelligent than Asians, while being more intelligent than others...

There’s this supposed deficit in communication skills floating around. They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions, yet there's this claim that among Black Americans, those facial expressions are somehow less developed... but where is the actual evidence for that?

Looking further into the concept of fidelity, which is fundamentally tied to parental responsibility, there's some interesting data from the animal kingdom suggesting that species with a lower ratio of genital size relative to body mass tend to exhibit higher levels of faithfulness. When you look at certain demographics within the US, specifically Black Americans, there is a statistically higher ratio in this regard, which seems to correlate directly with their approach to monogamy—if you follow that logic... I’ll keep this civil and avoid using terms that might be more "accurate" to my actual thoughts on the matter, though the evidence points in that direction...

The Ottoman advance was halted outside Vienna back in 1683, and they were eventually pushed back past the Sava River by 1699. Slavery wasn't officially abolished until 1865. (though you had certain US states trying to sneak it back in later, only to have it struck down again), and the oppression of Black Americans persisted all the way through the 80s... not to mention the introduction of things like crack cocaine. And that's not even touching on the ongoing chaos happening in Africa.

It seems pretty obvious that Black families actually had a much more stable, high-quality family life during the conservative 50s and 60s compared to the hyper-liberal decades we've seen recently—but where's the proof?

I guess I should probably say something about this... although, honestly, it’s hard to know where to even begin without getting sidetracked by how much everything seems to be spiraling lately. It’s just one thing after another, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but there’s a certain... a certain lack of cohesion in how things are being handled. It feels messy. Fragmented. Anyway, regarding what was mentioned earlier—I don't know. I suppose I have some thoughts, if you can call them that. It's all very deliberate, yet somehow completely disorganized at the same time. I might be wrong, obviously, but it feels like we're just circling the drain while everyone pretends everything is perfectly fine. It’s frustrating, I guess. Just... frustrating. kaže:
The genetic variations between races are actually pretty negligible. It’s been shown—well, I guess it's been established now—that the largest genetic gaps exist within Black populations. Specifically, if you look at the differences between two Khoikhoi individuals, those gaps can actually be wider than the differences found between a Swede and a Mongolian. It’s a bit much to wrap one's head around, I suppose, but that's how the data seems to shake out.

Look, just because there’s variation within specific subgroups doesn't somehow negate the existence of differences between racial groups. It's not an either-or situation. I mean, the differences exist on a completely different level entirely—genomic analysis is a whole other beast compared to just some simplistic percentage breakdown you see in a textbook. And honestly, just because people claim those differences are small... well, that doesn't actually prove anything. I guess you could say that the genetic difference between us and a chimpanzee is also incredibly small, if you really want to get technical about it. But we all know that's not how it works.

I suppose I should probably address this... though I'm not entirely sure where to begin. It’s all a bit much, isn't it? Everything feels sort of... scattered. I was thinking about it earlier—well, maybe I wasn't thinking, just drifting—but there's this sense that things aren't quite landing the way they ought to. It reminds me of how people react to news cycles in places like Chicago or even further out in Seattle... just this constant, frantic noise. And honestly? I find it exhausting. I mean, I might be wrong, I guess. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious or something. But you look at the way discussions unfold online, and it's just... it's messy. It lacks a certain... deliberation. Anyway, I digress. I tend to do that. I'll get sidetracked by a single thought and then suddenly I'm three miles down a rabbit hole. It's a habit. A bad one, perhaps. But regarding the actual point... I still feel we haven't quite touched the core of the issue. We're circling it, like a plane stuck in a holding pattern over some massive Midwestern airport, waiting for clearance that never seems to come. It's frustrating. Truly. kaže:
Where exactly is the proof that Black people are physically more capable than White people? I mean, seriously, where is the actual data? I guess I’m just asking because I feel like we throw these claims around without much substance sometimes. Maybe there are studies out there, or maybe not, but I haven't seen anything concrete that settles the debate once and for all. It feels like a lot of talk without much follow-through, if you know what I mean. Just seems... I don't know, unfinished.

Are you kidding me right now? Are you actually pulling my leg?

I don't know... I guess I just find the whole thing a bit much. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but there's something about how everything is being handled that feels off. It’s like we’re just drifting without a clear sense of direction, you know? I mean, I could be wrong, obviously—I’m certainly no expert on these matters—but it seems to me like we're missing the forest for the trees. It's frustrating. Honestly, it's more than frustrating; it's exhausting to watch. I suppose I should probably stay quiet, but I can't help but feel like someone needs to say something. Just my two cents, I guess. [User Name] says:
Where exactly is the data to support this idea—that one group is less intelligent than white people, while white people are somehow less intelligent than Asians? I mean, where is the actual proof? It seems like a lot of baseless speculation to me, I guess. Maybe there's some flawed study floating around somewhere, but honestly, it feels more like just endless, circular arguing without any real substance behind it. It’s all just noise, really.

Any IQ test is going to prove it. I mean, sure, you can always try to dismiss IQ testing as being culturally biased—which, let’s be honest, is really just the go-to defense for liberals pushing that whole PC agenda about racial equivalence. It's a convenient way to dodge the data, I guess.

I don't know... I guess I'm just sitting here thinking about how things used to be, or maybe how they should have been. It’s hard to pin down. Everything feels a bit scattered lately. I mean, you look at the way people talk now, and it’s just... it's a mess. A complete mess. I was reading this thing earlier—well, more like staring at it while my coffee went cold—and it just hit me how much we've lost in terms of actual substance. Or maybe I'm just being cynical. That's probably it. I'm definitely being cynical. But honestly, when you look at the sheer scale of the nonsense we deal with on a daily basis, it’s almost impressive how much chaos one can endure before just snapping. I suppose that's just the modern condition, isn't it? Just constant, low-level irritation wrapped in a layer of confusion. Anyway, I'm rambling. Sorry. My mind just wanders to these strange, frustrating places sometimes. Maybe it's the weather. Or maybe it's just me. Probably both. [User Name] says:
There’s this ongoing debate about communication deficits, right? They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions. But then you hear these claims that among Black Americans, those facial expressions aren't nearly as developed... though, I mean, where is the actual evidence for that? It feels like a massive leap. I guess it's just one of those things people throw around without any real data to back it up. Maybe it's just perception, or maybe it's just nonsense. I don't know.

There’s a mountain of studies out there that claim to have "identified certain differences," or whatever kind of convoluted way they choose to package it these days. This is just one of them. I mean, obviously, if you ask anyone directly, they’re going to deny the superiority of one race over another—because let’s be real, any other answer is a guaranteed career suicide in this climate. But the data is right there. Besides, if you step away from the so-called scientific establishment for a second and actually trust your own eyes, I guess it becomes pretty obvious... maybe even glaringly clear... how much more rudimentary the facial expressions of Black people seem compared to those of white people.

I was digging through some academic archives earlier—you know how it goes, getting lost in the weeds of old theses and deep-dive research papers—and I stumbled upon this massive PDF. It’s one of those heavy, dense documents that takes forever to get through, but honestly, there’s some interesting stuff buried in the data if you have the patience to sift through it. I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes these digitized university repositories hold more than just dry statistics. There's a certain weight to reading original research from years ago, even if the formatting feels a bit dated. Maybe it's just me, but I find myself circling back to these kinds of deep dives when everything else online feels like it's written by an AI or someone just chasing clicks. It's slow work, definitely. A bit tedious, I suppose. But there's a method to the madness, right? Just a thought.

Alexander Barrett50 said:Genetic differences between races are practically negligible. Recent data even suggests that the genetic variance within Black populations—specifically among Hottentots—is actually greater than the variation you'd find between a Swede and a Mongol...

Where’s the actual evidence to support the claim that Black people are physically more capable than white people?

Where is the actual data to support the claim that whites are less intelligent than Asians, while being more intelligent than others...

There’s this supposed deficit in communication skills floating around. They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions, yet there's this claim that among Black Americans, those facial expressions are somehow less developed... but where is the actual evidence for that?

Looking further into the concept of fidelity, which is fundamentally tied to parental responsibility, there's some interesting data from the animal kingdom suggesting that species with a lower ratio of genital size relative to body mass tend to exhibit higher levels of faithfulness. When you look at certain demographics within the US, specifically Black Americans, there is a statistically higher ratio in this regard, which seems to correlate directly with their approach to monogamy—if you follow that logic... I’ll keep this civil and avoid using terms that might be more "accurate" to my actual thoughts on the matter, though the evidence points in that direction...

The Ottoman advance was halted outside Vienna back in 1683, and they were eventually pushed back past the Sava River by 1699. Slavery wasn't officially abolished until 1865. (though you had certain US states trying to sneak it back in later, only to have it struck down again), and the oppression of Black Americans persisted all the way through the 80s... not to mention the introduction of things like crack cocaine. And that's not even touching on the ongoing chaos happening in Africa.

It seems pretty obvious that Black families actually had a much more stable, high-quality family life during the conservative 50s and 60s compared to the hyper-liberal decades we've seen recently—but where's the proof?

And you'd better stick to being polite, because you really don't have the ground to stand on if you try some arrogant cursing. Maybe do a little research; we're talking about basic things here that are common knowledge to anyone who is even moderately informed. Just look at primates, for example.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274775/posts

Alexander Barrett50 said:Genetic differences between races are practically negligible. Recent data even suggests that the genetic variance within Black populations—specifically among Hottentots—is actually greater than the variation you'd find between a Swede and a Mongol...

Where’s the actual evidence to support the claim that Black people are physically more capable than white people?

Where is the actual data to support the claim that whites are less intelligent than Asians, while being more intelligent than others...

There’s this supposed deficit in communication skills floating around. They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions, yet there's this claim that among Black Americans, those facial expressions are somehow less developed... but where is the actual evidence for that?

Looking further into the concept of fidelity, which is fundamentally tied to parental responsibility, there's some interesting data from the animal kingdom suggesting that species with a lower ratio of genital size relative to body mass tend to exhibit higher levels of faithfulness. When you look at certain demographics within the US, specifically Black Americans, there is a statistically higher ratio in this regard, which seems to correlate directly with their approach to monogamy—if you follow that logic... I’ll keep this civil and avoid using terms that might be more "accurate" to my actual thoughts on the matter, though the evidence points in that direction...

The Ottoman advance was halted outside Vienna back in 1683, and they were eventually pushed back past the Sava River by 1699. Slavery wasn't officially abolished until 1865. (though you had certain US states trying to sneak it back in later, only to have it struck down again), and the oppression of Black Americans persisted all the way through the 80s... not to mention the introduction of things like crack cocaine. And that's not even touching on the ongoing chaos happening in Africa.

It seems pretty obvious that Black families actually had a much more stable, high-quality family life during the conservative 50s and 60s compared to the hyper-liberal decades we've seen recently—but where's the proof?

In reality, there isn't much of a significant difference between a historical gap of 150 years or 250 years. Crack cocaine is just a weapon. Thanks for that observation; now I see exactly who I'm dealing with. When Americans were most oppressed, they also contributed the most. Academic achievement and the family unit of men and women among Americans in the US have been degrading since the late sixties.

Alexander Barrett50 said:Genetic differences between races are practically negligible. Recent data even suggests that the genetic variance within Black populations—specifically among Hottentots—is actually greater than the variation you'd find between a Swede and a Mongol...

Where’s the actual evidence to support the claim that Black people are physically more capable than white people?

Where is the actual data to support the claim that whites are less intelligent than Asians, while being more intelligent than others...

There’s this supposed deficit in communication skills floating around. They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions, yet there's this claim that among Black Americans, those facial expressions are somehow less developed... but where is the actual evidence for that?

Looking further into the concept of fidelity, which is fundamentally tied to parental responsibility, there's some interesting data from the animal kingdom suggesting that species with a lower ratio of genital size relative to body mass tend to exhibit higher levels of faithfulness. When you look at certain demographics within the US, specifically Black Americans, there is a statistically higher ratio in this regard, which seems to correlate directly with their approach to monogamy—if you follow that logic... I’ll keep this civil and avoid using terms that might be more "accurate" to my actual thoughts on the matter, though the evidence points in that direction...

The Ottoman advance was halted outside Vienna back in 1683, and they were eventually pushed back past the Sava River by 1699. Slavery wasn't officially abolished until 1865. (though you had certain US states trying to sneak it back in later, only to have it struck down again), and the oppression of Black Americans persisted all the way through the 80s... not to mention the introduction of things like crack cocaine. And that's not even touching on the ongoing chaos happening in Africa.

It seems pretty obvious that Black families actually had a much more stable, high-quality family life during the conservative 50s and 60s compared to the hyper-liberal decades we've seen recently—but where's the proof?

The single-parenthood rate, which is on the rise... I think I've mentioned that at least once already.

It’s an interesting thing to observe how the idea that race doesn't matter at all has become such a rigid dogma for certain people. At this point, it almost feels irrelevant how many studies, data sets, or experimental results you bring to the table; they just keep shouting their own narrative regardless.
If you look at the statistics, there is a significantly higher proportion of broken homes and single-mother households within the Black community globally, which suggests a specific pattern regarding the presence of fathers.
Then, the standard script starts playing—that it’s all just a byproduct of poverty—but nobody seems to want to explain why that logic doesn't hold up when you look at high poverty rates in places like the Philippines or Moldova.

Robin Ramos2 said:

I guess I should probably say something about this... although, honestly, it’s hard to know where to even begin without getting sidetracked by how much everything seems to be spiraling lately. It’s just one thing after another, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but there’s a certain... a certain lack of cohesion in how things are being handled. It feels messy. Fragmented. Anyway, regarding what was mentioned earlier—I don't know. I suppose I have some thoughts, if you can call them that. It's all very deliberate, yet somehow completely disorganized at the same time. I might be wrong, obviously, but it feels like we're just circling the drain while everyone pretends everything is perfectly fine. It’s frustrating, I guess. Just... frustrating. kaže:
The genetic variations between races are actually pretty negligible. It’s been shown—well, I guess it's been established now—that the largest genetic gaps exist within Black populations. Specifically, if you look at the differences between two Khoikhoi individuals, those gaps can actually be wider than the differences found between a Swede and a Mongolian. It’s a bit much to wrap one's head around, I suppose, but that's how the data seems to shake out.

Look, just because there’s variation within specific subgroups doesn't somehow negate the existence of differences between racial groups. It's not an either-or situation. I mean, the differences exist on a completely different level entirely—genomic analysis is a whole other beast compared to just some simplistic percentage breakdown you see in a textbook. And honestly, just because people claim those differences are small... well, that doesn't actually prove anything. I guess you could say that the genetic difference between us and a chimpanzee is also incredibly small, if you really want to get technical about it. But we all know that's not how it works.

I suppose I should probably address this... though I'm not entirely sure where to begin. It’s all a bit much, isn't it? Everything feels sort of... scattered. I was thinking about it earlier—well, maybe I wasn't thinking, just drifting—but there's this sense that things aren't quite landing the way they ought to. It reminds me of how people react to news cycles in places like Chicago or even further out in Seattle... just this constant, frantic noise. And honestly? I find it exhausting. I mean, I might be wrong, I guess. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious or something. But you look at the way discussions unfold online, and it's just... it's messy. It lacks a certain... deliberation. Anyway, I digress. I tend to do that. I'll get sidetracked by a single thought and then suddenly I'm three miles down a rabbit hole. It's a habit. A bad one, perhaps. But regarding the actual point... I still feel we haven't quite touched the core of the issue. We're circling it, like a plane stuck in a holding pattern over some massive Midwestern airport, waiting for clearance that never seems to come. It's frustrating. Truly. kaže:
Where exactly is the proof that Black people are physically more capable than White people? I mean, seriously, where is the actual data? I guess I’m just asking because I feel like we throw these claims around without much substance sometimes. Maybe there are studies out there, or maybe not, but I haven't seen anything concrete that settles the debate once and for all. It feels like a lot of talk without much follow-through, if you know what I mean. Just seems... I don't know, unfinished.

Are you kidding me right now? Are you actually pulling my leg?

I don't know... I guess I just find the whole thing a bit much. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but there's something about how everything is being handled that feels off. It’s like we’re just drifting without a clear sense of direction, you know? I mean, I could be wrong, obviously—I’m certainly no expert on these matters—but it seems to me like we're missing the forest for the trees. It's frustrating. Honestly, it's more than frustrating; it's exhausting to watch. I suppose I should probably stay quiet, but I can't help but feel like someone needs to say something. Just my two cents, I guess. [User Name] says:
Where exactly is the data to support this idea—that one group is less intelligent than white people, while white people are somehow less intelligent than Asians? I mean, where is the actual proof? It seems like a lot of baseless speculation to me, I guess. Maybe there's some flawed study floating around somewhere, but honestly, it feels more like just endless, circular arguing without any real substance behind it. It’s all just noise, really.

Any IQ test is going to prove it. I mean, sure, you can always try to dismiss IQ testing as being culturally biased—which, let’s be honest, is really just the go-to defense for liberals pushing that whole PC agenda about racial equivalence. It's a convenient way to dodge the data, I guess.

I don't know... I guess I'm just sitting here thinking about how things used to be, or maybe how they should have been. It’s hard to pin down. Everything feels a bit scattered lately. I mean, you look at the way people talk now, and it’s just... it's a mess. A complete mess. I was reading this thing earlier—well, more like staring at it while my coffee went cold—and it just hit me how much we've lost in terms of actual substance. Or maybe I'm just being cynical. That's probably it. I'm definitely being cynical. But honestly, when you look at the sheer scale of the nonsense we deal with on a daily basis, it’s almost impressive how much chaos one can endure before just snapping. I suppose that's just the modern condition, isn't it? Just constant, low-level irritation wrapped in a layer of confusion. Anyway, I'm rambling. Sorry. My mind just wanders to these strange, frustrating places sometimes. Maybe it's the weather. Or maybe it's just me. Probably both. [User Name] says:
There’s this ongoing debate about communication deficits, right? They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions. But then you hear these claims that among Black Americans, those facial expressions aren't nearly as developed... though, I mean, where is the actual evidence for that? It feels like a massive leap. I guess it's just one of those things people throw around without any real data to back it up. Maybe it's just perception, or maybe it's just nonsense. I don't know.

There’s a mountain of studies out there that claim to have "identified certain differences," or whatever kind of convoluted way they choose to package it these days. This is just one of them. I mean, obviously, if you ask anyone directly, they’re going to deny the superiority of one race over another—because let’s be real, any other answer is a guaranteed career suicide in this climate. But the data is right there. Besides, if you step away from the so-called scientific establishment for a second and actually trust your own eyes, I guess it becomes pretty obvious... maybe even glaringly clear... how much more rudimentary the facial expressions of Black people seem compared to those of white people.

I was digging through some academic archives earlier—you know how it goes, getting lost in the weeds of old theses and deep-dive research papers—and I stumbled upon this massive PDF. It’s one of those heavy, dense documents that takes forever to get through, but honestly, there’s some interesting stuff buried in the data if you have the patience to sift through it. I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes these digitized university repositories hold more than just dry statistics. There's a certain weight to reading original research from years ago, even if the formatting feels a bit dated. Maybe it's just me, but I find myself circling back to these kinds of deep dives when everything else online feels like it's written by an AI or someone just chasing clicks. It's slow work, definitely. A bit tedious, I suppose. But there's a method to the madness, right? Just a thought.

And you'd better stick to being polite, because you really don't have the ground to stand on if you try some arrogant cursing. Maybe do a little research; we're talking about basic things here that are common knowledge to anyone who is even moderately informed. Just look at primates, for example.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274775/posts

In reality, there isn't much of a significant difference between a historical gap of 150 years or 250 years. Crack cocaine is just a weapon. Thanks for that observation; now I see exactly who I'm dealing with. When Americans were most oppressed, they also contributed the most. Academic achievement and the family unit of men and women among Americans in the US have been degrading since the late sixties.

The single-parenthood rate, which is on the rise... I think I've mentioned that at least once already.

The differences aren't exactly negligible. Even when you look at chimpanzees—our closest relatives—there's a 3% gap between us. That translates to roughly 90 million genes...
Recent research suggests that how our genetic material actually gets used matters way more than just how much of it we share... It’s less about the raw blueprint and more about how the body decides to execute the instructions...
Like I’ve said before, the genetic variance between two Hottentots from the same tribe is actually greater than what you'll find between a Swede and a Brazilian...

Robin Ramos2 said:

I guess I should probably say something about this... although, honestly, it’s hard to know where to even begin without getting sidetracked by how much everything seems to be spiraling lately. It’s just one thing after another, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but there’s a certain... a certain lack of cohesion in how things are being handled. It feels messy. Fragmented. Anyway, regarding what was mentioned earlier—I don't know. I suppose I have some thoughts, if you can call them that. It's all very deliberate, yet somehow completely disorganized at the same time. I might be wrong, obviously, but it feels like we're just circling the drain while everyone pretends everything is perfectly fine. It’s frustrating, I guess. Just... frustrating. kaže:
The genetic variations between races are actually pretty negligible. It’s been shown—well, I guess it's been established now—that the largest genetic gaps exist within Black populations. Specifically, if you look at the differences between two Khoikhoi individuals, those gaps can actually be wider than the differences found between a Swede and a Mongolian. It’s a bit much to wrap one's head around, I suppose, but that's how the data seems to shake out.

Look, just because there’s variation within specific subgroups doesn't somehow negate the existence of differences between racial groups. It's not an either-or situation. I mean, the differences exist on a completely different level entirely—genomic analysis is a whole other beast compared to just some simplistic percentage breakdown you see in a textbook. And honestly, just because people claim those differences are small... well, that doesn't actually prove anything. I guess you could say that the genetic difference between us and a chimpanzee is also incredibly small, if you really want to get technical about it. But we all know that's not how it works.

I suppose I should probably address this... though I'm not entirely sure where to begin. It’s all a bit much, isn't it? Everything feels sort of... scattered. I was thinking about it earlier—well, maybe I wasn't thinking, just drifting—but there's this sense that things aren't quite landing the way they ought to. It reminds me of how people react to news cycles in places like Chicago or even further out in Seattle... just this constant, frantic noise. And honestly? I find it exhausting. I mean, I might be wrong, I guess. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious or something. But you look at the way discussions unfold online, and it's just... it's messy. It lacks a certain... deliberation. Anyway, I digress. I tend to do that. I'll get sidetracked by a single thought and then suddenly I'm three miles down a rabbit hole. It's a habit. A bad one, perhaps. But regarding the actual point... I still feel we haven't quite touched the core of the issue. We're circling it, like a plane stuck in a holding pattern over some massive Midwestern airport, waiting for clearance that never seems to come. It's frustrating. Truly. kaže:
Where exactly is the proof that Black people are physically more capable than White people? I mean, seriously, where is the actual data? I guess I’m just asking because I feel like we throw these claims around without much substance sometimes. Maybe there are studies out there, or maybe not, but I haven't seen anything concrete that settles the debate once and for all. It feels like a lot of talk without much follow-through, if you know what I mean. Just seems... I don't know, unfinished.

Are you kidding me right now? Are you actually pulling my leg?

I don't know... I guess I just find the whole thing a bit much. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but there's something about how everything is being handled that feels off. It’s like we’re just drifting without a clear sense of direction, you know? I mean, I could be wrong, obviously—I’m certainly no expert on these matters—but it seems to me like we're missing the forest for the trees. It's frustrating. Honestly, it's more than frustrating; it's exhausting to watch. I suppose I should probably stay quiet, but I can't help but feel like someone needs to say something. Just my two cents, I guess. [User Name] says:
Where exactly is the data to support this idea—that one group is less intelligent than white people, while white people are somehow less intelligent than Asians? I mean, where is the actual proof? It seems like a lot of baseless speculation to me, I guess. Maybe there's some flawed study floating around somewhere, but honestly, it feels more like just endless, circular arguing without any real substance behind it. It’s all just noise, really.

Any IQ test is going to prove it. I mean, sure, you can always try to dismiss IQ testing as being culturally biased—which, let’s be honest, is really just the go-to defense for liberals pushing that whole PC agenda about racial equivalence. It's a convenient way to dodge the data, I guess.

I don't know... I guess I'm just sitting here thinking about how things used to be, or maybe how they should have been. It’s hard to pin down. Everything feels a bit scattered lately. I mean, you look at the way people talk now, and it’s just... it's a mess. A complete mess. I was reading this thing earlier—well, more like staring at it while my coffee went cold—and it just hit me how much we've lost in terms of actual substance. Or maybe I'm just being cynical. That's probably it. I'm definitely being cynical. But honestly, when you look at the sheer scale of the nonsense we deal with on a daily basis, it’s almost impressive how much chaos one can endure before just snapping. I suppose that's just the modern condition, isn't it? Just constant, low-level irritation wrapped in a layer of confusion. Anyway, I'm rambling. Sorry. My mind just wanders to these strange, frustrating places sometimes. Maybe it's the weather. Or maybe it's just me. Probably both. [User Name] says:
There’s this ongoing debate about communication deficits, right? They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions. But then you hear these claims that among Black Americans, those facial expressions aren't nearly as developed... though, I mean, where is the actual evidence for that? It feels like a massive leap. I guess it's just one of those things people throw around without any real data to back it up. Maybe it's just perception, or maybe it's just nonsense. I don't know.

There’s a mountain of studies out there that claim to have "identified certain differences," or whatever kind of convoluted way they choose to package it these days. This is just one of them. I mean, obviously, if you ask anyone directly, they’re going to deny the superiority of one race over another—because let’s be real, any other answer is a guaranteed career suicide in this climate. But the data is right there. Besides, if you step away from the so-called scientific establishment for a second and actually trust your own eyes, I guess it becomes pretty obvious... maybe even glaringly clear... how much more rudimentary the facial expressions of Black people seem compared to those of white people.

I was digging through some academic archives earlier—you know how it goes, getting lost in the weeds of old theses and deep-dive research papers—and I stumbled upon this massive PDF. It’s one of those heavy, dense documents that takes forever to get through, but honestly, there’s some interesting stuff buried in the data if you have the patience to sift through it. I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes these digitized university repositories hold more than just dry statistics. There's a certain weight to reading original research from years ago, even if the formatting feels a bit dated. Maybe it's just me, but I find myself circling back to these kinds of deep dives when everything else online feels like it's written by an AI or someone just chasing clicks. It's slow work, definitely. A bit tedious, I suppose. But there's a method to the madness, right? Just a thought.

And you'd better stick to being polite, because you really don't have the ground to stand on if you try some arrogant cursing. Maybe do a little research; we're talking about basic things here that are common knowledge to anyone who is even moderately informed. Just look at primates, for example.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274775/posts

In reality, there isn't much of a significant difference between a historical gap of 150 years or 250 years. Crack cocaine is just a weapon. Thanks for that observation; now I see exactly who I'm dealing with. When Americans were most oppressed, they also contributed the most. Academic achievement and the family unit of men and women among Americans in the US have been degrading since the late sixties.

The single-parenthood rate, which is on the rise... I think I've mentioned that at least once already.

Are you seriously claiming that someone like a Hottentot would physically outperform a Russian or a Lapp out in Siberia or Lapland? Or that they’d just completely outclass a German or a Canadian up in the Alps? Are you actually pulling my leg here...

Robin Ramos2 said:

I guess I should probably say something about this... although, honestly, it’s hard to know where to even begin without getting sidetracked by how much everything seems to be spiraling lately. It’s just one thing after another, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but there’s a certain... a certain lack of cohesion in how things are being handled. It feels messy. Fragmented. Anyway, regarding what was mentioned earlier—I don't know. I suppose I have some thoughts, if you can call them that. It's all very deliberate, yet somehow completely disorganized at the same time. I might be wrong, obviously, but it feels like we're just circling the drain while everyone pretends everything is perfectly fine. It’s frustrating, I guess. Just... frustrating. kaže:
The genetic variations between races are actually pretty negligible. It’s been shown—well, I guess it's been established now—that the largest genetic gaps exist within Black populations. Specifically, if you look at the differences between two Khoikhoi individuals, those gaps can actually be wider than the differences found between a Swede and a Mongolian. It’s a bit much to wrap one's head around, I suppose, but that's how the data seems to shake out.

Look, just because there’s variation within specific subgroups doesn't somehow negate the existence of differences between racial groups. It's not an either-or situation. I mean, the differences exist on a completely different level entirely—genomic analysis is a whole other beast compared to just some simplistic percentage breakdown you see in a textbook. And honestly, just because people claim those differences are small... well, that doesn't actually prove anything. I guess you could say that the genetic difference between us and a chimpanzee is also incredibly small, if you really want to get technical about it. But we all know that's not how it works.

I suppose I should probably address this... though I'm not entirely sure where to begin. It’s all a bit much, isn't it? Everything feels sort of... scattered. I was thinking about it earlier—well, maybe I wasn't thinking, just drifting—but there's this sense that things aren't quite landing the way they ought to. It reminds me of how people react to news cycles in places like Chicago or even further out in Seattle... just this constant, frantic noise. And honestly? I find it exhausting. I mean, I might be wrong, I guess. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious or something. But you look at the way discussions unfold online, and it's just... it's messy. It lacks a certain... deliberation. Anyway, I digress. I tend to do that. I'll get sidetracked by a single thought and then suddenly I'm three miles down a rabbit hole. It's a habit. A bad one, perhaps. But regarding the actual point... I still feel we haven't quite touched the core of the issue. We're circling it, like a plane stuck in a holding pattern over some massive Midwestern airport, waiting for clearance that never seems to come. It's frustrating. Truly. kaže:
Where exactly is the proof that Black people are physically more capable than White people? I mean, seriously, where is the actual data? I guess I’m just asking because I feel like we throw these claims around without much substance sometimes. Maybe there are studies out there, or maybe not, but I haven't seen anything concrete that settles the debate once and for all. It feels like a lot of talk without much follow-through, if you know what I mean. Just seems... I don't know, unfinished.

Are you kidding me right now? Are you actually pulling my leg?

I don't know... I guess I just find the whole thing a bit much. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but there's something about how everything is being handled that feels off. It’s like we’re just drifting without a clear sense of direction, you know? I mean, I could be wrong, obviously—I’m certainly no expert on these matters—but it seems to me like we're missing the forest for the trees. It's frustrating. Honestly, it's more than frustrating; it's exhausting to watch. I suppose I should probably stay quiet, but I can't help but feel like someone needs to say something. Just my two cents, I guess. [User Name] says:
Where exactly is the data to support this idea—that one group is less intelligent than white people, while white people are somehow less intelligent than Asians? I mean, where is the actual proof? It seems like a lot of baseless speculation to me, I guess. Maybe there's some flawed study floating around somewhere, but honestly, it feels more like just endless, circular arguing without any real substance behind it. It’s all just noise, really.

Any IQ test is going to prove it. I mean, sure, you can always try to dismiss IQ testing as being culturally biased—which, let’s be honest, is really just the go-to defense for liberals pushing that whole PC agenda about racial equivalence. It's a convenient way to dodge the data, I guess.

I don't know... I guess I'm just sitting here thinking about how things used to be, or maybe how they should have been. It’s hard to pin down. Everything feels a bit scattered lately. I mean, you look at the way people talk now, and it’s just... it's a mess. A complete mess. I was reading this thing earlier—well, more like staring at it while my coffee went cold—and it just hit me how much we've lost in terms of actual substance. Or maybe I'm just being cynical. That's probably it. I'm definitely being cynical. But honestly, when you look at the sheer scale of the nonsense we deal with on a daily basis, it’s almost impressive how much chaos one can endure before just snapping. I suppose that's just the modern condition, isn't it? Just constant, low-level irritation wrapped in a layer of confusion. Anyway, I'm rambling. Sorry. My mind just wanders to these strange, frustrating places sometimes. Maybe it's the weather. Or maybe it's just me. Probably both. [User Name] says:
There’s this ongoing debate about communication deficits, right? They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions. But then you hear these claims that among Black Americans, those facial expressions aren't nearly as developed... though, I mean, where is the actual evidence for that? It feels like a massive leap. I guess it's just one of those things people throw around without any real data to back it up. Maybe it's just perception, or maybe it's just nonsense. I don't know.

There’s a mountain of studies out there that claim to have "identified certain differences," or whatever kind of convoluted way they choose to package it these days. This is just one of them. I mean, obviously, if you ask anyone directly, they’re going to deny the superiority of one race over another—because let’s be real, any other answer is a guaranteed career suicide in this climate. But the data is right there. Besides, if you step away from the so-called scientific establishment for a second and actually trust your own eyes, I guess it becomes pretty obvious... maybe even glaringly clear... how much more rudimentary the facial expressions of Black people seem compared to those of white people.

I was digging through some academic archives earlier—you know how it goes, getting lost in the weeds of old theses and deep-dive research papers—and I stumbled upon this massive PDF. It’s one of those heavy, dense documents that takes forever to get through, but honestly, there’s some interesting stuff buried in the data if you have the patience to sift through it. I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes these digitized university repositories hold more than just dry statistics. There's a certain weight to reading original research from years ago, even if the formatting feels a bit dated. Maybe it's just me, but I find myself circling back to these kinds of deep dives when everything else online feels like it's written by an AI or someone just chasing clicks. It's slow work, definitely. A bit tedious, I suppose. But there's a method to the madness, right? Just a thought.

And you'd better stick to being polite, because you really don't have the ground to stand on if you try some arrogant cursing. Maybe do a little research; we're talking about basic things here that are common knowledge to anyone who is even moderately informed. Just look at primates, for example.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274775/posts

In reality, there isn't much of a significant difference between a historical gap of 150 years or 250 years. Crack cocaine is just a weapon. Thanks for that observation; now I see exactly who I'm dealing with. When Americans were most oppressed, they also contributed the most. Academic achievement and the family unit of men and women among Americans in the US have been degrading since the late sixties.

The single-parenthood rate, which is on the rise... I think I've mentioned that at least once already.

That’s just plain false. To my knowledge, not a single intelligence test has ever actually surpassed the local baseline characteristics of those people... There’s just no such thing as a universal metric that can fairly judge every single person on this planet... everything is too subjective for that....
If you’re going to claim something exists, then actually show us the proof instead of immediately jumping to attacks on liberals. I'm not one of them, so there's no need to drag me into that...

Robin Ramos2 said:

I guess I should probably say something about this... although, honestly, it’s hard to know where to even begin without getting sidetracked by how much everything seems to be spiraling lately. It’s just one thing after another, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but there’s a certain... a certain lack of cohesion in how things are being handled. It feels messy. Fragmented. Anyway, regarding what was mentioned earlier—I don't know. I suppose I have some thoughts, if you can call them that. It's all very deliberate, yet somehow completely disorganized at the same time. I might be wrong, obviously, but it feels like we're just circling the drain while everyone pretends everything is perfectly fine. It’s frustrating, I guess. Just... frustrating. kaže:
The genetic variations between races are actually pretty negligible. It’s been shown—well, I guess it's been established now—that the largest genetic gaps exist within Black populations. Specifically, if you look at the differences between two Khoikhoi individuals, those gaps can actually be wider than the differences found between a Swede and a Mongolian. It’s a bit much to wrap one's head around, I suppose, but that's how the data seems to shake out.

Look, just because there’s variation within specific subgroups doesn't somehow negate the existence of differences between racial groups. It's not an either-or situation. I mean, the differences exist on a completely different level entirely—genomic analysis is a whole other beast compared to just some simplistic percentage breakdown you see in a textbook. And honestly, just because people claim those differences are small... well, that doesn't actually prove anything. I guess you could say that the genetic difference between us and a chimpanzee is also incredibly small, if you really want to get technical about it. But we all know that's not how it works.

I suppose I should probably address this... though I'm not entirely sure where to begin. It’s all a bit much, isn't it? Everything feels sort of... scattered. I was thinking about it earlier—well, maybe I wasn't thinking, just drifting—but there's this sense that things aren't quite landing the way they ought to. It reminds me of how people react to news cycles in places like Chicago or even further out in Seattle... just this constant, frantic noise. And honestly? I find it exhausting. I mean, I might be wrong, I guess. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious or something. But you look at the way discussions unfold online, and it's just... it's messy. It lacks a certain... deliberation. Anyway, I digress. I tend to do that. I'll get sidetracked by a single thought and then suddenly I'm three miles down a rabbit hole. It's a habit. A bad one, perhaps. But regarding the actual point... I still feel we haven't quite touched the core of the issue. We're circling it, like a plane stuck in a holding pattern over some massive Midwestern airport, waiting for clearance that never seems to come. It's frustrating. Truly. kaže:
Where exactly is the proof that Black people are physically more capable than White people? I mean, seriously, where is the actual data? I guess I’m just asking because I feel like we throw these claims around without much substance sometimes. Maybe there are studies out there, or maybe not, but I haven't seen anything concrete that settles the debate once and for all. It feels like a lot of talk without much follow-through, if you know what I mean. Just seems... I don't know, unfinished.

Are you kidding me right now? Are you actually pulling my leg?

I don't know... I guess I just find the whole thing a bit much. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but there's something about how everything is being handled that feels off. It’s like we’re just drifting without a clear sense of direction, you know? I mean, I could be wrong, obviously—I’m certainly no expert on these matters—but it seems to me like we're missing the forest for the trees. It's frustrating. Honestly, it's more than frustrating; it's exhausting to watch. I suppose I should probably stay quiet, but I can't help but feel like someone needs to say something. Just my two cents, I guess. [User Name] says:
Where exactly is the data to support this idea—that one group is less intelligent than white people, while white people are somehow less intelligent than Asians? I mean, where is the actual proof? It seems like a lot of baseless speculation to me, I guess. Maybe there's some flawed study floating around somewhere, but honestly, it feels more like just endless, circular arguing without any real substance behind it. It’s all just noise, really.

Any IQ test is going to prove it. I mean, sure, you can always try to dismiss IQ testing as being culturally biased—which, let’s be honest, is really just the go-to defense for liberals pushing that whole PC agenda about racial equivalence. It's a convenient way to dodge the data, I guess.

I don't know... I guess I'm just sitting here thinking about how things used to be, or maybe how they should have been. It’s hard to pin down. Everything feels a bit scattered lately. I mean, you look at the way people talk now, and it’s just... it's a mess. A complete mess. I was reading this thing earlier—well, more like staring at it while my coffee went cold—and it just hit me how much we've lost in terms of actual substance. Or maybe I'm just being cynical. That's probably it. I'm definitely being cynical. But honestly, when you look at the sheer scale of the nonsense we deal with on a daily basis, it’s almost impressive how much chaos one can endure before just snapping. I suppose that's just the modern condition, isn't it? Just constant, low-level irritation wrapped in a layer of confusion. Anyway, I'm rambling. Sorry. My mind just wanders to these strange, frustrating places sometimes. Maybe it's the weather. Or maybe it's just me. Probably both. [User Name] says:
There’s this ongoing debate about communication deficits, right? They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions. But then you hear these claims that among Black Americans, those facial expressions aren't nearly as developed... though, I mean, where is the actual evidence for that? It feels like a massive leap. I guess it's just one of those things people throw around without any real data to back it up. Maybe it's just perception, or maybe it's just nonsense. I don't know.

There’s a mountain of studies out there that claim to have "identified certain differences," or whatever kind of convoluted way they choose to package it these days. This is just one of them. I mean, obviously, if you ask anyone directly, they’re going to deny the superiority of one race over another—because let’s be real, any other answer is a guaranteed career suicide in this climate. But the data is right there. Besides, if you step away from the so-called scientific establishment for a second and actually trust your own eyes, I guess it becomes pretty obvious... maybe even glaringly clear... how much more rudimentary the facial expressions of Black people seem compared to those of white people.

I was digging through some academic archives earlier—you know how it goes, getting lost in the weeds of old theses and deep-dive research papers—and I stumbled upon this massive PDF. It’s one of those heavy, dense documents that takes forever to get through, but honestly, there’s some interesting stuff buried in the data if you have the patience to sift through it. I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes these digitized university repositories hold more than just dry statistics. There's a certain weight to reading original research from years ago, even if the formatting feels a bit dated. Maybe it's just me, but I find myself circling back to these kinds of deep dives when everything else online feels like it's written by an AI or someone just chasing clicks. It's slow work, definitely. A bit tedious, I suppose. But there's a method to the madness, right? Just a thought.

And you'd better stick to being polite, because you really don't have the ground to stand on if you try some arrogant cursing. Maybe do a little research; we're talking about basic things here that are common knowledge to anyone who is even moderately informed. Just look at primates, for example.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274775/posts

In reality, there isn't much of a significant difference between a historical gap of 150 years or 250 years. Crack cocaine is just a weapon. Thanks for that observation; now I see exactly who I'm dealing with. When Americans were most oppressed, they also contributed the most. Academic achievement and the family unit of men and women among Americans in the US have been degrading since the late sixties.

The single-parenthood rate, which is on the rise... I think I've mentioned that at least once already.

I haven't had the time to dig into this one yet...

Robin Ramos2 said:

I guess I should probably say something about this... although, honestly, it’s hard to know where to even begin without getting sidetracked by how much everything seems to be spiraling lately. It’s just one thing after another, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but there’s a certain... a certain lack of cohesion in how things are being handled. It feels messy. Fragmented. Anyway, regarding what was mentioned earlier—I don't know. I suppose I have some thoughts, if you can call them that. It's all very deliberate, yet somehow completely disorganized at the same time. I might be wrong, obviously, but it feels like we're just circling the drain while everyone pretends everything is perfectly fine. It’s frustrating, I guess. Just... frustrating. kaže:
The genetic variations between races are actually pretty negligible. It’s been shown—well, I guess it's been established now—that the largest genetic gaps exist within Black populations. Specifically, if you look at the differences between two Khoikhoi individuals, those gaps can actually be wider than the differences found between a Swede and a Mongolian. It’s a bit much to wrap one's head around, I suppose, but that's how the data seems to shake out.

Look, just because there’s variation within specific subgroups doesn't somehow negate the existence of differences between racial groups. It's not an either-or situation. I mean, the differences exist on a completely different level entirely—genomic analysis is a whole other beast compared to just some simplistic percentage breakdown you see in a textbook. And honestly, just because people claim those differences are small... well, that doesn't actually prove anything. I guess you could say that the genetic difference between us and a chimpanzee is also incredibly small, if you really want to get technical about it. But we all know that's not how it works.

I suppose I should probably address this... though I'm not entirely sure where to begin. It’s all a bit much, isn't it? Everything feels sort of... scattered. I was thinking about it earlier—well, maybe I wasn't thinking, just drifting—but there's this sense that things aren't quite landing the way they ought to. It reminds me of how people react to news cycles in places like Chicago or even further out in Seattle... just this constant, frantic noise. And honestly? I find it exhausting. I mean, I might be wrong, I guess. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious or something. But you look at the way discussions unfold online, and it's just... it's messy. It lacks a certain... deliberation. Anyway, I digress. I tend to do that. I'll get sidetracked by a single thought and then suddenly I'm three miles down a rabbit hole. It's a habit. A bad one, perhaps. But regarding the actual point... I still feel we haven't quite touched the core of the issue. We're circling it, like a plane stuck in a holding pattern over some massive Midwestern airport, waiting for clearance that never seems to come. It's frustrating. Truly. kaže:
Where exactly is the proof that Black people are physically more capable than White people? I mean, seriously, where is the actual data? I guess I’m just asking because I feel like we throw these claims around without much substance sometimes. Maybe there are studies out there, or maybe not, but I haven't seen anything concrete that settles the debate once and for all. It feels like a lot of talk without much follow-through, if you know what I mean. Just seems... I don't know, unfinished.

Are you kidding me right now? Are you actually pulling my leg?

I don't know... I guess I just find the whole thing a bit much. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but there's something about how everything is being handled that feels off. It’s like we’re just drifting without a clear sense of direction, you know? I mean, I could be wrong, obviously—I’m certainly no expert on these matters—but it seems to me like we're missing the forest for the trees. It's frustrating. Honestly, it's more than frustrating; it's exhausting to watch. I suppose I should probably stay quiet, but I can't help but feel like someone needs to say something. Just my two cents, I guess. [User Name] says:
Where exactly is the data to support this idea—that one group is less intelligent than white people, while white people are somehow less intelligent than Asians? I mean, where is the actual proof? It seems like a lot of baseless speculation to me, I guess. Maybe there's some flawed study floating around somewhere, but honestly, it feels more like just endless, circular arguing without any real substance behind it. It’s all just noise, really.

Any IQ test is going to prove it. I mean, sure, you can always try to dismiss IQ testing as being culturally biased—which, let’s be honest, is really just the go-to defense for liberals pushing that whole PC agenda about racial equivalence. It's a convenient way to dodge the data, I guess.

I don't know... I guess I'm just sitting here thinking about how things used to be, or maybe how they should have been. It’s hard to pin down. Everything feels a bit scattered lately. I mean, you look at the way people talk now, and it’s just... it's a mess. A complete mess. I was reading this thing earlier—well, more like staring at it while my coffee went cold—and it just hit me how much we've lost in terms of actual substance. Or maybe I'm just being cynical. That's probably it. I'm definitely being cynical. But honestly, when you look at the sheer scale of the nonsense we deal with on a daily basis, it’s almost impressive how much chaos one can endure before just snapping. I suppose that's just the modern condition, isn't it? Just constant, low-level irritation wrapped in a layer of confusion. Anyway, I'm rambling. Sorry. My mind just wanders to these strange, frustrating places sometimes. Maybe it's the weather. Or maybe it's just me. Probably both. [User Name] says:
There’s this ongoing debate about communication deficits, right? They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions. But then you hear these claims that among Black Americans, those facial expressions aren't nearly as developed... though, I mean, where is the actual evidence for that? It feels like a massive leap. I guess it's just one of those things people throw around without any real data to back it up. Maybe it's just perception, or maybe it's just nonsense. I don't know.

There’s a mountain of studies out there that claim to have "identified certain differences," or whatever kind of convoluted way they choose to package it these days. This is just one of them. I mean, obviously, if you ask anyone directly, they’re going to deny the superiority of one race over another—because let’s be real, any other answer is a guaranteed career suicide in this climate. But the data is right there. Besides, if you step away from the so-called scientific establishment for a second and actually trust your own eyes, I guess it becomes pretty obvious... maybe even glaringly clear... how much more rudimentary the facial expressions of Black people seem compared to those of white people.

I was digging through some academic archives earlier—you know how it goes, getting lost in the weeds of old theses and deep-dive research papers—and I stumbled upon this massive PDF. It’s one of those heavy, dense documents that takes forever to get through, but honestly, there’s some interesting stuff buried in the data if you have the patience to sift through it. I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes these digitized university repositories hold more than just dry statistics. There's a certain weight to reading original research from years ago, even if the formatting feels a bit dated. Maybe it's just me, but I find myself circling back to these kinds of deep dives when everything else online feels like it's written by an AI or someone just chasing clicks. It's slow work, definitely. A bit tedious, I suppose. But there's a method to the madness, right? Just a thought.

And you'd better stick to being polite, because you really don't have the ground to stand on if you try some arrogant cursing. Maybe do a little research; we're talking about basic things here that are common knowledge to anyone who is even moderately informed. Just look at primates, for example.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274775/posts

In reality, there isn't much of a significant difference between a historical gap of 150 years or 250 years. Crack cocaine is just a weapon. Thanks for that observation; now I see exactly who I'm dealing with. When Americans were most oppressed, they also contributed the most. Academic achievement and the family unit of men and women among Americans in the US have been degrading since the late sixties.

The single-parenthood rate, which is on the rise... I think I've mentioned that at least once already.

That argument is garbage, and you tried to back it up with an article about testicle size rather than penis size. Besides, I've never heard anyone claim that Black men have larger balls than us.

I also know that white men are highly sought after and popular lovers among Black women in Africa, much like how Black men and Turks are viewed in Finland and Scandinavia.

So, let me repeat: whether you mean to be arrogant or not, your claim is just plain nonsense. You should probably read what people are saying in the comments under that article too.

Plus, that whole thing is an article based on assumptions, not actual evidence...

Robin Ramos2 said:

I guess I should probably say something about this... although, honestly, it’s hard to know where to even begin without getting sidetracked by how much everything seems to be spiraling lately. It’s just one thing after another, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but there’s a certain... a certain lack of cohesion in how things are being handled. It feels messy. Fragmented. Anyway, regarding what was mentioned earlier—I don't know. I suppose I have some thoughts, if you can call them that. It's all very deliberate, yet somehow completely disorganized at the same time. I might be wrong, obviously, but it feels like we're just circling the drain while everyone pretends everything is perfectly fine. It’s frustrating, I guess. Just... frustrating. kaže:
The genetic variations between races are actually pretty negligible. It’s been shown—well, I guess it's been established now—that the largest genetic gaps exist within Black populations. Specifically, if you look at the differences between two Khoikhoi individuals, those gaps can actually be wider than the differences found between a Swede and a Mongolian. It’s a bit much to wrap one's head around, I suppose, but that's how the data seems to shake out.

Look, just because there’s variation within specific subgroups doesn't somehow negate the existence of differences between racial groups. It's not an either-or situation. I mean, the differences exist on a completely different level entirely—genomic analysis is a whole other beast compared to just some simplistic percentage breakdown you see in a textbook. And honestly, just because people claim those differences are small... well, that doesn't actually prove anything. I guess you could say that the genetic difference between us and a chimpanzee is also incredibly small, if you really want to get technical about it. But we all know that's not how it works.

I suppose I should probably address this... though I'm not entirely sure where to begin. It’s all a bit much, isn't it? Everything feels sort of... scattered. I was thinking about it earlier—well, maybe I wasn't thinking, just drifting—but there's this sense that things aren't quite landing the way they ought to. It reminds me of how people react to news cycles in places like Chicago or even further out in Seattle... just this constant, frantic noise. And honestly? I find it exhausting. I mean, I might be wrong, I guess. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious or something. But you look at the way discussions unfold online, and it's just... it's messy. It lacks a certain... deliberation. Anyway, I digress. I tend to do that. I'll get sidetracked by a single thought and then suddenly I'm three miles down a rabbit hole. It's a habit. A bad one, perhaps. But regarding the actual point... I still feel we haven't quite touched the core of the issue. We're circling it, like a plane stuck in a holding pattern over some massive Midwestern airport, waiting for clearance that never seems to come. It's frustrating. Truly. kaže:
Where exactly is the proof that Black people are physically more capable than White people? I mean, seriously, where is the actual data? I guess I’m just asking because I feel like we throw these claims around without much substance sometimes. Maybe there are studies out there, or maybe not, but I haven't seen anything concrete that settles the debate once and for all. It feels like a lot of talk without much follow-through, if you know what I mean. Just seems... I don't know, unfinished.

Are you kidding me right now? Are you actually pulling my leg?

I don't know... I guess I just find the whole thing a bit much. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but there's something about how everything is being handled that feels off. It’s like we’re just drifting without a clear sense of direction, you know? I mean, I could be wrong, obviously—I’m certainly no expert on these matters—but it seems to me like we're missing the forest for the trees. It's frustrating. Honestly, it's more than frustrating; it's exhausting to watch. I suppose I should probably stay quiet, but I can't help but feel like someone needs to say something. Just my two cents, I guess. [User Name] says:
Where exactly is the data to support this idea—that one group is less intelligent than white people, while white people are somehow less intelligent than Asians? I mean, where is the actual proof? It seems like a lot of baseless speculation to me, I guess. Maybe there's some flawed study floating around somewhere, but honestly, it feels more like just endless, circular arguing without any real substance behind it. It’s all just noise, really.

Any IQ test is going to prove it. I mean, sure, you can always try to dismiss IQ testing as being culturally biased—which, let’s be honest, is really just the go-to defense for liberals pushing that whole PC agenda about racial equivalence. It's a convenient way to dodge the data, I guess.

I don't know... I guess I'm just sitting here thinking about how things used to be, or maybe how they should have been. It’s hard to pin down. Everything feels a bit scattered lately. I mean, you look at the way people talk now, and it’s just... it's a mess. A complete mess. I was reading this thing earlier—well, more like staring at it while my coffee went cold—and it just hit me how much we've lost in terms of actual substance. Or maybe I'm just being cynical. That's probably it. I'm definitely being cynical. But honestly, when you look at the sheer scale of the nonsense we deal with on a daily basis, it’s almost impressive how much chaos one can endure before just snapping. I suppose that's just the modern condition, isn't it? Just constant, low-level irritation wrapped in a layer of confusion. Anyway, I'm rambling. Sorry. My mind just wanders to these strange, frustrating places sometimes. Maybe it's the weather. Or maybe it's just me. Probably both. [User Name] says:
There’s this ongoing debate about communication deficits, right? They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions. But then you hear these claims that among Black Americans, those facial expressions aren't nearly as developed... though, I mean, where is the actual evidence for that? It feels like a massive leap. I guess it's just one of those things people throw around without any real data to back it up. Maybe it's just perception, or maybe it's just nonsense. I don't know.

There’s a mountain of studies out there that claim to have "identified certain differences," or whatever kind of convoluted way they choose to package it these days. This is just one of them. I mean, obviously, if you ask anyone directly, they’re going to deny the superiority of one race over another—because let’s be real, any other answer is a guaranteed career suicide in this climate. But the data is right there. Besides, if you step away from the so-called scientific establishment for a second and actually trust your own eyes, I guess it becomes pretty obvious... maybe even glaringly clear... how much more rudimentary the facial expressions of Black people seem compared to those of white people.

I was digging through some academic archives earlier—you know how it goes, getting lost in the weeds of old theses and deep-dive research papers—and I stumbled upon this massive PDF. It’s one of those heavy, dense documents that takes forever to get through, but honestly, there’s some interesting stuff buried in the data if you have the patience to sift through it. I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes these digitized university repositories hold more than just dry statistics. There's a certain weight to reading original research from years ago, even if the formatting feels a bit dated. Maybe it's just me, but I find myself circling back to these kinds of deep dives when everything else online feels like it's written by an AI or someone just chasing clicks. It's slow work, definitely. A bit tedious, I suppose. But there's a method to the madness, right? Just a thought.

And you'd better stick to being polite, because you really don't have the ground to stand on if you try some arrogant cursing. Maybe do a little research; we're talking about basic things here that are common knowledge to anyone who is even moderately informed. Just look at primates, for example.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274775/posts

In reality, there isn't much of a significant difference between a historical gap of 150 years or 250 years. Crack cocaine is just a weapon. Thanks for that observation; now I see exactly who I'm dealing with. When Americans were most oppressed, they also contributed the most. Academic achievement and the family unit of men and women among Americans in the US have been degrading since the late sixties.

The single-parenthood rate, which is on the rise... I think I've mentioned that at least once already.

The difference between 1699 and the 1980s is significant.

I used to think this stuff was all nonsense too, until the descendants of African Americans from Tuskegee won a lawsuit in the 90s that proved certain facts. In Tuskegee, a small town in the US, during a study funded by taxpayer money that started in the 30s and didn't end until 1972, poor Black men who had contracted syphilis were tricked into participating in a "treatment project" that—without their knowledge—offered absolutely no medical care. The researchers falsified documents to show improving health while doing nothing to stop a disease that causes tumors, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. One researcher actually said, "We have no further interest in these patients until they die." It was all done just to study biological weapons—basically, how fast a disease spreads through a population.
Since then, I’ve learned to believe a lot of things that initially seem like stupidity.

Your observation about oppression is pathetic. That's like saying Americans contributed the most when they were still colonial subjects. It's an argument worthy of a bottom-tier demagogue...

You haven't provided any sources or any proof.

Robin Ramos2 said:

I guess I should probably say something about this... although, honestly, it’s hard to know where to even begin without getting sidetracked by how much everything seems to be spiraling lately. It’s just one thing after another, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but there’s a certain... a certain lack of cohesion in how things are being handled. It feels messy. Fragmented. Anyway, regarding what was mentioned earlier—I don't know. I suppose I have some thoughts, if you can call them that. It's all very deliberate, yet somehow completely disorganized at the same time. I might be wrong, obviously, but it feels like we're just circling the drain while everyone pretends everything is perfectly fine. It’s frustrating, I guess. Just... frustrating. kaže:
The genetic variations between races are actually pretty negligible. It’s been shown—well, I guess it's been established now—that the largest genetic gaps exist within Black populations. Specifically, if you look at the differences between two Khoikhoi individuals, those gaps can actually be wider than the differences found between a Swede and a Mongolian. It’s a bit much to wrap one's head around, I suppose, but that's how the data seems to shake out.

Look, just because there’s variation within specific subgroups doesn't somehow negate the existence of differences between racial groups. It's not an either-or situation. I mean, the differences exist on a completely different level entirely—genomic analysis is a whole other beast compared to just some simplistic percentage breakdown you see in a textbook. And honestly, just because people claim those differences are small... well, that doesn't actually prove anything. I guess you could say that the genetic difference between us and a chimpanzee is also incredibly small, if you really want to get technical about it. But we all know that's not how it works.

I suppose I should probably address this... though I'm not entirely sure where to begin. It’s all a bit much, isn't it? Everything feels sort of... scattered. I was thinking about it earlier—well, maybe I wasn't thinking, just drifting—but there's this sense that things aren't quite landing the way they ought to. It reminds me of how people react to news cycles in places like Chicago or even further out in Seattle... just this constant, frantic noise. And honestly? I find it exhausting. I mean, I might be wrong, I guess. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious or something. But you look at the way discussions unfold online, and it's just... it's messy. It lacks a certain... deliberation. Anyway, I digress. I tend to do that. I'll get sidetracked by a single thought and then suddenly I'm three miles down a rabbit hole. It's a habit. A bad one, perhaps. But regarding the actual point... I still feel we haven't quite touched the core of the issue. We're circling it, like a plane stuck in a holding pattern over some massive Midwestern airport, waiting for clearance that never seems to come. It's frustrating. Truly. kaže:
Where exactly is the proof that Black people are physically more capable than White people? I mean, seriously, where is the actual data? I guess I’m just asking because I feel like we throw these claims around without much substance sometimes. Maybe there are studies out there, or maybe not, but I haven't seen anything concrete that settles the debate once and for all. It feels like a lot of talk without much follow-through, if you know what I mean. Just seems... I don't know, unfinished.

Are you kidding me right now? Are you actually pulling my leg?

I don't know... I guess I just find the whole thing a bit much. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but there's something about how everything is being handled that feels off. It’s like we’re just drifting without a clear sense of direction, you know? I mean, I could be wrong, obviously—I’m certainly no expert on these matters—but it seems to me like we're missing the forest for the trees. It's frustrating. Honestly, it's more than frustrating; it's exhausting to watch. I suppose I should probably stay quiet, but I can't help but feel like someone needs to say something. Just my two cents, I guess. [User Name] says:
Where exactly is the data to support this idea—that one group is less intelligent than white people, while white people are somehow less intelligent than Asians? I mean, where is the actual proof? It seems like a lot of baseless speculation to me, I guess. Maybe there's some flawed study floating around somewhere, but honestly, it feels more like just endless, circular arguing without any real substance behind it. It’s all just noise, really.

Any IQ test is going to prove it. I mean, sure, you can always try to dismiss IQ testing as being culturally biased—which, let’s be honest, is really just the go-to defense for liberals pushing that whole PC agenda about racial equivalence. It's a convenient way to dodge the data, I guess.

I don't know... I guess I'm just sitting here thinking about how things used to be, or maybe how they should have been. It’s hard to pin down. Everything feels a bit scattered lately. I mean, you look at the way people talk now, and it’s just... it's a mess. A complete mess. I was reading this thing earlier—well, more like staring at it while my coffee went cold—and it just hit me how much we've lost in terms of actual substance. Or maybe I'm just being cynical. That's probably it. I'm definitely being cynical. But honestly, when you look at the sheer scale of the nonsense we deal with on a daily basis, it’s almost impressive how much chaos one can endure before just snapping. I suppose that's just the modern condition, isn't it? Just constant, low-level irritation wrapped in a layer of confusion. Anyway, I'm rambling. Sorry. My mind just wanders to these strange, frustrating places sometimes. Maybe it's the weather. Or maybe it's just me. Probably both. [User Name] says:
There’s this ongoing debate about communication deficits, right? They say over 80% of how we connect happens through facial expressions. But then you hear these claims that among Black Americans, those facial expressions aren't nearly as developed... though, I mean, where is the actual evidence for that? It feels like a massive leap. I guess it's just one of those things people throw around without any real data to back it up. Maybe it's just perception, or maybe it's just nonsense. I don't know.

There’s a mountain of studies out there that claim to have "identified certain differences," or whatever kind of convoluted way they choose to package it these days. This is just one of them. I mean, obviously, if you ask anyone directly, they’re going to deny the superiority of one race over another—because let’s be real, any other answer is a guaranteed career suicide in this climate. But the data is right there. Besides, if you step away from the so-called scientific establishment for a second and actually trust your own eyes, I guess it becomes pretty obvious... maybe even glaringly clear... how much more rudimentary the facial expressions of Black people seem compared to those of white people.

I was digging through some academic archives earlier—you know how it goes, getting lost in the weeds of old theses and deep-dive research papers—and I stumbled upon this massive PDF. It’s one of those heavy, dense documents that takes forever to get through, but honestly, there’s some interesting stuff buried in the data if you have the patience to sift through it. I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes these digitized university repositories hold more than just dry statistics. There's a certain weight to reading original research from years ago, even if the formatting feels a bit dated. Maybe it's just me, but I find myself circling back to these kinds of deep dives when everything else online feels like it's written by an AI or someone just chasing clicks. It's slow work, definitely. A bit tedious, I suppose. But there's a method to the madness, right? Just a thought.

And you'd better stick to being polite, because you really don't have the ground to stand on if you try some arrogant cursing. Maybe do a little research; we're talking about basic things here that are common knowledge to anyone who is even moderately informed. Just look at primates, for example.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274775/posts

In reality, there isn't much of a significant difference between a historical gap of 150 years or 250 years. Crack cocaine is just a weapon. Thanks for that observation; now I see exactly who I'm dealing with. When Americans were most oppressed, they also contributed the most. Academic achievement and the family unit of men and women among Americans in the US have been degrading since the late sixties.

The single-parenthood rate, which is on the rise... I think I've mentioned that at least once already.

What you're talking about doesn't actually hold water—where are your sources? Do you even have any evidence?

James Nguyen13 said:It’s an interesting thing to observe how the idea that race doesn't matter at all has become such a rigid dogma for certain people. At this point, it almost feels irrelevant how many studies, data sets, or experimental results you bring to the table; they just keep shouting their own narrative regardless.
If you look at the statistics, there is a significantly higher proportion of broken homes and single-mother households within the Black community globally, which suggests a specific pattern regarding the presence of fathers.
Then, the standard script starts playing—that it’s all just a byproduct of poverty—but nobody seems to want to explain why that logic doesn't hold up when you look at high poverty rates in places like the Philippines or Moldova.

Fine, let's talk about where slavery occurred, but where is the actual evidence showing that this specific situation exists in Africa?

Where on earth is the actual evidence that there's a massive surge of single mothers and broken homes across Africa? 🙂

Robin Ramos2 said:Where on earth is the actual evidence that there's a massive surge of single mothers and broken homes across Africa? 🙂

Fine, let's try this: where are the sources claiming that outside of war-torn regions in Africa—like Kenya or Tanzania—there are more broken families and single moms than, say, in India?

It’s a rhetorical question, really. Since you didn't provide a single source for any of your other claims, I know you won't provide one for this either. And that bit about the oppression of Black people is truly something else... from now on, I'm calling you Bor!

So, how's it going, Bor? You want to tell us more about testicles? Sorry, what was the word you used—penises? What an idiot. Honestly, the guy commenting under the article hit the nail on the head regarding how much taxpayer money is being wasted on this nonsense...

Alexander Barrett50 said:Fine, let's try this: where are the sources claiming that outside of war-torn regions in Africa—like Kenya or Tanzania—there are more broken families and single moms than, say, in India?

It’s a rhetorical question, really. Since you didn't provide a single source for any of your other claims, I know you won't provide one for this either. And that bit about the oppression of Black people is truly something else... from now on, I'm calling you Bor!

So, how's it going, Bor? You want to tell us more about testicles? Sorry, what was the word you used—penises? What an idiot. Honestly, the guy commenting under the article hit the nail on the head regarding how much taxpayer money is being wasted on this nonsense...

Do you really think I'm some kind of research service for you, supposed to dig up references just so you can ignore them or claim they don't fit your narrative? You were just shouting into the wind while I was having actual discussions; I outgrew petty provocateurs like you a long time ago.
The issues I’m discussing are common knowledge, and you can find as many references as you want. Distrust toward Black people is prevalent both in Africa and in the USA. The breakdown of the Black family in the US isn't a consequence of slavery, but rather their natural state. Instead of being grateful that you've learned something, you're just here messing around and provoking. And you have the nerve to insult me when you're writing nonsense, like claiming crack cocaine is a weapon and that slavery in the US ended in the 1980s. Do you seriously think the AIDS epidemic outside of Africa is prevalent because Black people are so devoted to their families? You are a typical liberal ignorant; try mimicking me until you at least educate yourself on the basic things you claim to have an 'opinion' on.

Look, this isn't just about racial differences... we are talking about deep-seated sociological issues that Black communities are hitting way harder than anyone else (well, almost everyone, though maybe slightly less so in places like Ethiopia, Sudan, Eritrea, and Somalia).

The problems are so massive.... honestly, they've become the bread and butter of daily conversation for Black leaders... from right here in America to all over Africa and the Caribbean.

Regardless of whether you blame specific causes or even genetics.... Lisa Walker31 pointed out that things in these very same communities have actually been spiraling downward.... from the 1960s all the way up to now.
Which basically means that despite having better civil rights and improved economic and political standing.... we're seeing more single mothers, more youth behind bars, more kids growing up without fathers.... you know the drill.

That’s probably why that Black leader Farrakhan.... about 15 years ago, led over a million Black people into Washington..... NOT to protest the government..... NO, it was so they could face themselves, deal with their own social and sociological mess.... and take this oath.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3BIfAKqPI

Even President Obama touched on the whole subject of how African traditions regarding marriage, women, and loyalty work in his autobiography... because it actually shaped his life... when his father finished with one woman in Africa... married another one in Hawaii... only to break up with her too.... then head right back to Africa... and marry a third. 😉
The fact that "not everyone is the same" and doesn't *have* to be the same is proven by the life and biography of his wife, Michelle... whose parents... even though they were just regular working folks... stayed together, and through their steady wages, raised their children to attend the most prestigious universities... all of which culminated in her becoming the First Lady of the USA. 😁

The way Obama succeeded.... even being the son of a single mother.... has everything to do with his grandparents who also raised him and sent him to the top private schools in Hawaii.... and it certainly didn't hurt that he came from such intelligent, educated parents.

If millions of Black Americans marched on Washington specifically to take an oath because they realize something is fundamentally broken within their own community.... I don't see why we would even need to debate something like this on this forum. 🤷

I was recently reading an article in The New York Times about AIDS in Namibia.... and how incredibly difficult it is to stop the spread and the infection rates when a population is generally promiscuous. I mean... if The New York Times feels bold enough to write about that... in the middle of a mostly Black New York... why should we be rehashing it here.

It's the same old story. Face the problem... and stop blaming everyone else for it.
That’s exactly what Louis Farrakhan said... when he called for millions of his people to march on Washington.

Recently, a famous Black American magazine... I think it was Ebony... ran a front-page story about the percentage of Black children growing up without fathers, how many don't even know them, and how much youth is stuck in prison....
And yeah.... the situation is worse than it has ever been.
On one hand, you have Obama and Oprah.... on the other, you have these catastrophic statistics...
Fifty years ago, families were way "healthier" and more intact than they are today. And I mean even before Rosa Parks, and Martin Luther King Jr.... and even before Oprah and Obama.....

PS.
Don't you remember when Toni Morrison, the famous American author (also a Black woman), called Clinton "Our First Black President."
Now, take a wild guess..... wheeeeeyyyyyyyyyy why....