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Challenging or Terminating a Property Transfer Agreement

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Participants Ryan Gray4coastalstag7Jessica Ross71James Cox6
Ryan Gray4 Ryan Gray4 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Alright, here’s the deal. My grandma signed over her entire estate to my dad through some basic contract—not even a formal life estate or anything like that. Fast forward to now: my dad is a total alcoholic. He’s looking to sell off a plot of land, and if he keeps this up, he’ll probably try to dump the house too. Honestly, you can't get through to him. My grandpa passed away, and at the time, my dad was the sole owner of everything. Now, my grandma wants to transfer everything back to me, but we're stuck because we have no clue how to actually do it. This whole ownership transfer happened six years ago. Can anyone help me out with some advice? I’m a total legal amateur here.
coastalstag7 coastalstag7 Member
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#2 ·
First, you gotta figure out how she’s actually transferring it to him.
And just a heads up—if she transfers it to you, you're looking at a 5% tax hit, unless she just puts the house you live in in your name and it ends up being your only property.
Jessica Ross71 Jessica Ross71 Newcomer
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Regarding the breakup, it all really boils down to what kind of contract you're looking at.

If Grandma doesn't have a formal agreement on hand, you can just head over to the county recorder's office (at the district court) and ask for a photocopy from the public records. It’s a public record, after all—anyone can request it without having to give some long-winded explanation about why they need it. You'll just have to pay a few small filing fees.

And as for property transfer taxes? Between a grandmother and her grandson, there’s no tax to worry about, regardless of what the grandson owns at the moment the title transfers.

There's also the option of seeking partial legal incapacity for the father if his drinking has made him reckless; specifically regarding how he handles assets. But honestly, that's a complicated mess, and you'd definitely need to go talk to the department of social services to get the facts straight.

Either way, you've got to tread carefully here; you don't want things to escalate into domestic violence. Maybe the father would even be open to signing a contract amendment? For instance, where the ownership shifts to the grandson, but the grandma and father keep the right to live there and collect any income from the property, while the grandson takes on the responsibility of supporting them.
James Cox6 James Cox6 Active Member
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#4 ·
There’s no such thing as rescinding or canceling a contract in this specific legal context 🙂
I’m assuming we’re talking about declaring a contract void. There isn't a statute of limitations for declaring something void—if a court finds one or more grounds for nullity, then legally speaking, that contract never existed in the first place. You can't miss a deadline to file a lawsuit to have a contract declared void.

But alcoholism isn't a valid reason... Generally, the grounds for revocation are:

a) if the donor falls into a situation where their health is jeopardized due to extreme financial hardship
b) because of ingratitude from the recipient (for instance, if the recipient threatens the donor's life)
c) if the gift was made specifically to dodge an existing obligation
d) if the gift violates the donor's duty of support
e) if the gift infringes upon a forced heirship share
f) if the gift harms the rights of a child born later

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