Is Islam a violent religion?

Do you guys actually think Islam is a violent religion? I’m living right here in Boston surrounded by them, and honestly... I'm leaning pretty hard towards yes.

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I don't buy the idea that Islam is inherently violent. It’s more like any other faith—you're always going to find some radical idiots mixed in with the rest. But looking at these photos, those lunatics are definitely living in some European country, right? For people like them, Guantanamo is probably just a vacation spot.

Here goes another "correspondent" from across the border again. 🙂 Honestly, how long is this going to go on? At this rate, we might as well just reserve the .us domain exclusively for actual American citizens. I couldn't care less about Boston or those globalists. 🙂

redeagle42 said:Here goes another "correspondent" from across the border again. 🙂 Honestly, how long is this going to go on? At this rate, we might as well just reserve the .us domain exclusively for actual American citizens. I couldn't care less about Boston or those globalists. 🙂

Take it easy, man... I'm craving some lamb too, but it’s nowhere to be found... zero chance...

The real issue here is that we’re wasting our breath trying to break things down for people who aren't even looking for answers, while the ones who actually want to understand? Well, they can't seem to wrap their heads around anything no matter how much you explain it.

Religion generally tends to meddle in places where it simply doesn't belong...
The actual goal of religion (and I’m not talking about the Bible or the Quran here) in this modern era is to cause chaos. It doesn't even matter which faith you're looking at.
It always comes down to that tired, obnoxious "My God is better than your God" routine...

If people would just listen to their own intuition instead of following the crowd, we wouldn't be dealing with all this religious-driven nonsense. We really just need a little more independent thought. 🙂

Sandra White4 said:Do you guys actually think Islam is a violent religion? I’m living right here in Boston surrounded by them, and honestly... I'm leaning pretty hard towards yes.

By modern standards? Yes. They hold views that would have been common in Europe five centuries ago. The core issue is their insistence on a strictly religious worldview rather than a secular one. Other faiths within Christianity can be just as intolerant, but they lack that level of societal control today; society has become more secular, making faith a personal matter rather than the law of the land. Among Muslims—at least those who didn't live under communism—that shift hasn't happened yet. That is the fundamental difference.

@steelfox2

Look, the thing is, I've actually sat down and read the Quran, so I'm looking at your whole thread as nothing more than a massive provocation. I've also read the Bible, so let me just ask you right now—can you please stop talking out of your ass? No religion is violent at its core. It’s when people start twisting faith to fit their own agendas that you end up with militant Judaism or militant Islam, and honestly, at this rate, you'll probably be claiming Buddhists are militants next... 🙂

Look, just like any other religion, Islam carries its own dose of terror—it’s nothing more or less than what you see in others. Religious fervor itself? That's a dangerous thing, period. The media loves to lean into the narrative that Islam is violent across the board, but that's just not the whole story. Sure, there's been this recent surge in violence coming from Islamist circles and fanatics, and nobody can deny the heavy links between certain Islamic groups and terrorism. But why? There are tons of reasons—poverty, lack of development, a fundamentally different mindset... you name it. If you want my take, I'd say Islam is basically going through the same "puberty" phase that Christianity went through during the Middle Ages and right after.

redeagle42 said:@steelfox2

Look, the thing is, I've actually sat down and read the Quran, so I'm looking at your whole thread as nothing more than a massive provocation. I've also read the Bible, so let me just ask you right now—can you please stop talking out of your ass? No religion is violent at its core. It’s when people start twisting faith to fit their own agendas that you end up with militant Judaism or militant Islam, and honestly, at this rate, you'll probably be claiming Buddhists are militants next... 🙂

Almost every single one endorses violence in the name of "divine justice" or "orthodoxy" against "heretics," "sinners," "idolaters," and similar nonsense. Very few wouldn't crush an ant in theory, if you know what I mean. Religious tolerance is a modern concept born from the decline of church influence over the state—aside from a few rare, brief exceptions in history. Even if it remains imperfect today.

I have this nagging concern regarding the way religious tolerance plays out globally. In many parts of the world where Islam is the majority faith, there seems to be very little room for anyone practicing a different religion. Meanwhile, over here in the West, we have minority groups arriving with the expectation of enjoying the same level of tolerance that others have fought to establish.☕

I honestly can't quite put my finger on it—whether it's tied to religious beliefs or just the way civilizations build themselves around those values. But you only have to look at certain Islamic nations... Afghanistan, various states across the Middle East, Iraq, Iran, Malaysia, various African countries, or even Pakistan... they all seem to be struggling under the weight of intense freedoms and rapid modernization.

Even looking closer to home, you see similar patterns in European countries where Islam has a more significant presence, like Canada, Albania, Mexico, or Mexico....

If you just take a look at how Islam functioned in its earliest days, everything becomes crystal clear regarding who is actually violent and who isn't. A movement is always defined by the people who founded it.
That’s the true version of Islam. That was their actual intent; they lived the faith and set the standard.

I disagree with the idea that any religion is inherently violent. It is institutionalized religion that tends to be manipulative, which almost always leads to violence eventually.🙂

velvetmaker3 said:If you just take a look at how Islam functioned in its earliest days, everything becomes crystal clear regarding who is actually violent and who isn't. A movement is always defined by the people who founded it.
That’s the true version of Islam. That was their actual intent; they lived the faith and set the standard.

What you're describing covers three years out of 1,300 years of religious history. It's the same story with other faiths. As soon as a religion—even under its first leader—establishes laws forcing people of other faiths to be second-class citizens subject to legal discrimination that borders on stripping away human dignity, you can't call it a story of high religious tolerance or morality.

A leader is only as violent as the followers he commands today.

While reviewing previous posts, a few points caught my eye:
- All religions are somewhat violent (though I suppose Buddhism might be an exception)
- The conclusion seems to be based on a comparison (I assume): the Crusades versus modern terrorism.
- The foundation of Christianity, the New Testament, doesn't actually overflow with violence; Christ's teachings differ from Islam in many ways (as velvetmaker3 and steelfox2 mentioned)
- Perhaps Islam is still in its 'adolescence' and will eventually mature, much like Christianity did once it ceased being aggressive or dangerous.

I am simply wondering why, and how, religious terrorism by Muslims is tolerated in the 21st century—an era defined by global media, widespread information, and education—when we see such atrocities happening in the name of their faith right before our eyes? When will we finally be allowed to condemn terrorism, human rights violations, murder, holy wars, and primitivism without facing threats like, "Behead those who insult Islam"?

Larry Turner3 said:A leader is only as violent as the followers he commands today.

While reviewing previous posts, a few points caught my eye:
- All religions are somewhat violent (though I suppose Buddhism might be an exception)
- The conclusion seems to be based on a comparison (I assume): the Crusades versus modern terrorism.
- The foundation of Christianity, the New Testament, doesn't actually overflow with violence; Christ's teachings differ from Islam in many ways (as velvetmaker3 and steelfox2 mentioned)
- Perhaps Islam is still in its 'adolescence' and will eventually mature, much like Christianity did once it ceased being aggressive or dangerous.

I am simply wondering why, and how, religious terrorism by Muslims is tolerated in the 21st century—an era defined by global media, widespread information, and education—when we see such atrocities happening in the name of their faith right before our eyes? When will we finally be allowed to condemn terrorism, human rights violations, murder, holy wars, and primitivism without facing threats like, "Behead those who insult Islam"?

It’s simple. If the world refuses to tolerate this behavior, it would be labeled as national intolerance. Why? Because these actions and attitudes stemming from extremist currents within Islam are fundamentally part of the national identity of certain Islamic nations. To launch a public or media crusade against such behavior is seen as an attack on the very identity of a nation built upon that specific mindset.

The fundamental issue here is that Islam is built on a foundation of pure fatalism. It’s the idea that life is entirely predetermined by divine will, leaving the individual as nothing more than a puppet being manipulated by God via the Quran—which acts as a direct, unquestionable directive. You don't exactly sit around questioning the credibility of the prophets once you're in. Then, you add a layer of self-induced hypnosis through praying five times a day, and what do you get? You end up with a believer who never loses sight of the mission and remains a perpetually obedient soldier of the faith. It makes them incredibly easy prey for any skilled manipulator looking to exploit that devotion for whatever ends they desire.