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How to pay life insurance premiums?

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Participants crimsonseal13casualtrucker7blueridge32bluepilot14ambermoose20Andrew Rogers15Kimberly Nguyen
blueridge32 blueridge32 Active Member
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joined Dec 2009
#21 ·
Andrew Rogers15 said:Look, >, since you clearly know everything there is to know about Allianz, I’ll say it again: paying the annual premium upfront is just smarter. Like you pointed out, if you use a Mastercard, the surcharge is only about 3.5%, whereas monthly installments usually bump that up to 5 or 6 percent. And before anyone starts—I wasn't "claiming" that this applies to every single card type; I already said it doesn't. But I am standing by my word: paying the full year at once on a credit card is more cost-effective, and nobody can argue with that math. Even with the extra fee, it’s still cheaper than dealing with those annoying paper checks or money orders. Plus, the bill gets bundled right in with all your other monthly expenses. You aren't going to forget to pay your credit card statement, whereas you could easily lose track of a random check or ignore a bill sitting on the counter. Furthermore, let's say you set up your policy in December and pay via card—that's perfect timing because you'll be looking at that tax refund for the previous year soon. Honestly, you seem to get worked up the second someone mentions Allianz; take it easy, it’s not good for your blood pressure. Oh, and I didn't realize they had those specific co-owners, which actually makes it even worse when they can't accommodate their own clients by offering an annual payment option without a markup.

Honestly, just paying cash upfront is the best move. For the seller, taking an American Express is great, and for the client, there isn't much difference. That extra 1% or so doesn't even hurt. Plus, the seller doesn't have to worry about the policy getting canceled for non-payment.

I also mentioned that it doesn't work the same for every card, so I wasn't "arguing." Again, I stand by my point: paying the annual premium with a card is more cost-effective, and nobody can tell me otherwise.

Sure, but if you're short on cash, you might end up overdrawing your account if the card hits your paycheck. Those overdraft fees are way higher than that tiny 1% fee! But if you don't have the money, you can just skip a check or a bill and catch up later. It all depends on how you look at it. 😉

No matter what the fee is, it's smaller than paying via individual checks. Plus, the bill comes all at once along with your other monthly credit card expenses, so you won't forget to pay it. You could easily overlook a random paper bill.

That's the point—you can skip a check if things get tight and fix it later, but if you go into the red on a card, there's no turning back.

Furthermore, say you set up a policy in December and pay by card—that's awesome because you'll get your tax refund for the whole year.

That’s the only real perk and why the fee is lower, though you did say there is no fee. So really, the only benefit is that tax refund.

Let's be real, I sell these kinds of policies too. Either they're annual, or I don't bother with them because monthly plans are too risky. Does this offer a real advantage? Not a huge one. Sure, people "feel" like using their card is better, but mathematically, it's basically the same. It's just that Americans are used to putting everything on a card, so it makes the sale easier. I don't even mention monthly options; I talk annual numbers, and when they ask about monthly, I just say we can do it on a card. 😉 I don't sell via paper checks anymore. Using a card isn't exactly a "perk"—cards aren't designed to be perks. But you probably already know that.
blueridge32 blueridge32 Active Member
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joined Dec 2009
#22 ·
Andrew Rogers15 said:Look, >, since you clearly know everything there is to know about Allianz, I’ll say it again: paying the annual premium upfront is just smarter. Like you pointed out, if you use a Mastercard, the surcharge is only about 3.5%, whereas monthly installments usually bump that up to 5 or 6 percent. And before anyone starts—I wasn't "claiming" that this applies to every single card type; I already said it doesn't. But I am standing by my word: paying the full year at once on a credit card is more cost-effective, and nobody can argue with that math. Even with the extra fee, it’s still cheaper than dealing with those annoying paper checks or money orders. Plus, the bill gets bundled right in with all your other monthly expenses. You aren't going to forget to pay your credit card statement, whereas you could easily lose track of a random check or ignore a bill sitting on the counter. Furthermore, let's say you set up your policy in December and pay via card—that's perfect timing because you'll be looking at that tax refund for the previous year soon. Honestly, you seem to get worked up the second someone mentions Allianz; take it easy, it’s not good for your blood pressure. Oh, and I didn't realize they had those specific co-owners, which actually makes it even worse when they can't accommodate their own clients by offering an annual payment option without a markup.

Andrew Rogers15 said:You can just use cards like American Express or maybe Mastercard since the company pays upfront, and you'll just pay monthly with no extra fees

Andrew Rogers15 said:Yes, there's a surcharge for installments, but that doesn't apply to every single card out there. I was simply listing which bank works with which insurance provider. Are you really going to claim that's incorrect? And honestly, the fact that Wells Fargo charges a surcharge for Allianz is actually a disgrace, considering how long they've been working together.

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Andrew Rogers15 Andrew Rogers15 Newcomer
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#23 ·
blueridge32 said:☕

God, if you could just get to me in person—what would you even do? You’d probably just skim my post and immediately start swinging at me so I wouldn't have the chance to defend myself. I mean, why bother arguing when you clearly think you're the smartest guy in the room? You know everything, don't you? Honestly, I don't know why this whole forum isn't just a collection of your own responses and comments since the rest of us are apparently so uneducated and dim-witted.
Just stay healthy and mind your own business for once. Let people decide what they want to accept on their own terms. You don't need to force every single point just to prove you're right... or maybe you really do feel that desperate need?
blueridge32 blueridge32 Active Member
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joined Dec 2009
#24 ·
Andrew Rogers15 said:God, if you could just get to me in person—what would you even do? You’d probably just skim my post and immediately start swinging at me so I wouldn't have the chance to defend myself. I mean, why bother arguing when you clearly think you're the smartest guy in the room? You know everything, don't you? Honestly, I don't know why this whole forum isn't just a collection of your own responses and comments since the rest of us are apparently so uneducated and dim-witted.
Just stay healthy and mind your own business for once. Let people decide what they want to accept on their own terms. You don't need to force every single point just to prove you're right... or maybe you really do feel that desperate need?

Nothing. Why on earth would I ever want to mess with you? 🤷
Oh, okay, so you're the genius now, right? You know everything. I don't get why they don't just make this whole forum your personal blog since the rest of us are clearly too uneducated to understand.

Nah, I'm no genius, and I never said anyone was stupid. 🤷If people want to learn, that's what a forum is for—asking questions and talking things out. I'm just laying out the facts and giving straight answers.
Just chill out and let people decide for themselves what they want to buy. Stop trying to force your opinion just to be "right," or... maybe you just have to?

People definitely need to decide for themselves, but isn't it way easier to make a choice when you actually have the right info instead of half-truths or confusing nonsense? Right?

Look, I've got nothing against you personally—we don't even know each other—but you come in swinging with misinformation and then change your mind two posts later. I was just correcting the record. It’s not about being "right" or "wrong," it’s about accuracy. Otherwise, you end up with people hearing "he said, she said" and everyone stays clueless. That happens because salespeople act like they know everything when they don't, and the customer gets burned. Don't take this personally, I'm not attacking you specifically; I'm talking about the principle. These are small details, sure, but on a $2000-a-year plan, a difference of $200-$83 matters. 😉 It won't break the bank when you split it over 12 months, but it's still there. Personally, I like my numbers exact so I don't run into issues later, but hey, do whatever works for you.
bluepilot14 bluepilot14 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2010
#25 ·
Anyone used their card for life insurance payments out in the Pacific Northwest? Do they offer any kind of perks or rewards for paying that way?

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