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The bank is taking my entire paycheck...

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Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
543 messages
joined Jul 2009
#121 ·
Come on, give him a break already... just let the guy try renting it out to some tenants... He literally said he moved out to the West Coast to fix his health issues (and this current situation is part of that struggle)... But seriously, let him at least attempt it... I highly doubt he’ll end up selling for anything less than what he originally dropped on the place... If my memory serves me right, he paid about $1,100 per square foot back then.
goldentrucker18 goldentrucker18 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Oct 2013
#122 ·
Lawrence Wright7 said:Exactly. I sold the car and wiped out a massive pile of expenses... gas, repairs, maintenance, tickets, registration, tolls... it adds up fast.
My job is close by, and most of the important government offices are nearby too, so I just zip around on my bike instead.👍
I've gotten used to it, and frankly, I'm enjoying it—well, except for when it pours rain, then it’s a total nightmare.
😛And yeah, I'm talking about a manageable deficit.
Just those two small bits of change.
🙂
I'm hoping the calls start coming in soon; I've posted the ads, now I'm just playing the waiting game.

Lawrence, I'm pulling for you with everything I've got.
Check your PMs.
Lawrence Wright7 Lawrence Wright7 Active MemberOP
96 messages
joined Mar 2010
#123 ·
Kimberly Nguyen said:Come on, give him a break already... just let the guy try renting it out to some tenants... He literally said he moved out to the West Coast to fix his health issues (and this current situation is part of that struggle)... But seriously, let him at least attempt it... I highly doubt he’ll end up selling for anything less than what he originally dropped on the place... If my memory serves me right, he paid about $1,100 per square foot back then.

👍
Exactly, it was closer to $1,050/sq ft.
I remember doing the exact same thing, hunting for advice on forums about two years ago:
Suspicious pricing, apartment in Zadar at $1,000/sq ft
Lawrence Wright7 Lawrence Wright7 Active MemberOP
96 messages
joined Mar 2010
#124 ·
goldentrucker18 said:Lawrence, I'm pulling for you with everything I've got.
Check your PMs.

Thanks.👍
I really appreciate the support. Honestly, it’s nice to actually get some encouragement for once, unlike most of this forum where it’s just a constant, mindless chorus of "sell, sell, sell... just dump the burden and move on." It's exhausting.
So, I've made my decision; I'm not selling this year. I'm going to fight. I'll take on tenants, deal with the summer tourist rush, pick up extra side gigs... whatever it takes.
I'm still sitting here waiting on a final word from the local government regarding the moratorium, and I'm just hoping... praying... for a slightly better tomorrow. 😛
nimbleorca21 nimbleorca21 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2008
#125 ·
I told you right from the start that you should just sell it or trade it if you aren't feeling it; I truly wish you the best with everything. I guess if I ever find myself down in Chicago, I'll reach out and take you for a coffee—it feels like it’s been forever since we actually sat down.☕
Timothy Mitchell29 Timothy Mitchell29 Member
19 messages
joined Sep 2021
#126 ·
Lawrence Wright7 said:Thanks.👍
I really appreciate the support. Honestly, it’s nice to actually get some encouragement for once, unlike most of this forum where it’s just a constant, mindless chorus of "sell, sell, sell... just dump the burden and move on." It's exhausting.
So, I've made my decision; I'm not selling this year. I'm going to fight. I'll take on tenants, deal with the summer tourist rush, pick up extra side gigs... whatever it takes.
I'm still sitting here waiting on a final word from the local government regarding the moratorium, and I'm just hoping... praying... for a slightly better tomorrow. 😛

Theoretically speaking, sure, they’ve got a point when you look strictly at the math and the money. But isn't there a whole other layer to this that people are just ignoring? It's not all about the bottom line, right?
Selling out basically means waving the white flag, right? It’s like going back to square one. After everything we've been through, wouldn't that move do more damage to our health than this current mess ever could? Honestly, isn't that exactly how it works?
If I can throw in a little unsolicited advice—just watch your step here. You really don't want to end up caught in a massive deficit, especially if you find yourself in a position where you have to dump your house on the market at a total loss just to stay afloat. Seriously, don't let that happen.
Look, you’ve always gotta keep a cool head and run the numbers. I mean, obviously, I shouldn't even have to suggest that—if you’ve already managed to ditch the car, it means you're finally on the right track!👍
Good luck with those scammers. 😁
Keep me posted on how things are going with that Temporary situation, and hang in there! 👍 !
northerntiger northerntiger Member
39 messages
joined Jan 2010
#127 ·
Kimberly Nguyen said:Come on, give him a break already... just let the guy try renting it out to some tenants... He literally said he moved out to the West Coast to fix his health issues (and this current situation is part of that struggle)... But seriously, let him at least attempt it... I highly doubt he’ll end up selling for anything less than what he originally dropped on the place... If my memory serves me right, he paid about $1,100 per square foot back then.

Where did you even get the idea that selling an apartment means moving back to the Midwest? It's not like you can't live in a rental in California. 😕

As for the debate, can we please stop pushing our own agendas? If you feel like everything has been covered, then just close the thread. We really only have two options to talk about here.
northerntiger northerntiger Member
39 messages
joined Jan 2010
#128 ·
Lawrence Wright7 said:Thanks.👍
I really appreciate the support. Honestly, it’s nice to actually get some encouragement for once, unlike most of this forum where it’s just a constant, mindless chorus of "sell, sell, sell... just dump the burden and move on." It's exhausting.
So, I've made my decision; I'm not selling this year. I'm going to fight. I'll take on tenants, deal with the summer tourist rush, pick up extra side gigs... whatever it takes.
I'm still sitting here waiting on a final word from the local government regarding the moratorium, and I'm just hoping... praying... for a slightly better tomorrow. 😛

Don't forget to factor in all those costs for the tenants you're planning on, whether they're long-term renters or just summer tourists.

And honestly, nobody here was telling you to "surrender." People were just sharing their own perspectives and what they would personally do if they were in your shoes. Just by posting, everyone was backing you up, regardless of the advice they gave.
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
543 messages
joined Jul 2009
#129 ·
northerntiger said:Where did you even get the idea that selling an apartment means moving back to the Midwest? It's not like you can't live in a rental in California. 😕

As for the debate, can we please stop pushing our own agendas? If you feel like everything has been covered, then just close the thread. We really only have two options to talk about here.

🙄
just read some of his posts

Regarding the discussion itself, I’m asking everyone to stop forcing their own views on others. If you think everything relevant has already been said, then just close the thread, because right now we can only talk about two options .

The man has stated multiple times that selling is his absolute last resort—that he’s going to try the methods he laid out first... yet a handful of you keep acting like selling is the only possible solution left. It was the exact same thing when we were talking about child support...

If you had actually bothered to follow the thread properly, you would have realized there are several different paths available, not just two. Whether those options are actually viable or good for him is entirely his call and nobody else's...

As for whether this thread stays open or gets shut down, that's the moderator's call... and the decision is that the thread stays open, and trolling will be punished.
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
543 messages
joined Jul 2009
#130 ·
@Lawrence Wright7 ... so I was just watching the news, and they’re reporting that JPMorgan Chase is actually cutting interest rates...
Lawrence Wright7 Lawrence Wright7 Active MemberOP
96 messages
joined Mar 2010
#131 ·
Alright, here’s some good news... and maybe a little glimmer of hope
something positive actually happened
it’s possible—things could still turn around significantly over the next 6 to 12 months

I was just reading on TXT... apparently JPMorgan Chase is dropping rates by 0.25% for both new and existing mortgage loans
which puts the rate for young buyers at 6.75% 👍
but hold your horses, this doesn't kick in until May 1st

So, if my current interest rate is sitting at 7.2% and my monthly payment is $1264
how much of a drop should I actually see if they move things toward 6.25%?

Hmm...
And honestly, why am I stuck at 7.2% anyway? Shouldn't it be closer to 7%?
Quote:
"Interest rates on new mortgage loans will decrease by 0.25 percentage points, bringing them down to 6.75% for youth loans and 7.25% for standard mortgage loans."
Lawrence Wright7 Lawrence Wright7 Active MemberOP
96 messages
joined Mar 2010
#132 ·
Kimberly Nguyen said:@Lawrence Wright7 ... so I was just watching the news, and they’re reporting that JPMorgan Chase is actually cutting interest rates...

Too good to be true👍

And here I was thinking you'd be the first one to jump in and give me the heads-up...😉

🙏🙏🙏🙏
Lawrence Wright7 Lawrence Wright7 Active MemberOP
96 messages
joined Mar 2010
#133 ·
nimbleorca21 said:I told you right from the start that you should just sell it or trade it if you aren't feeling it; I truly wish you the best with everything. I guess if I ever find myself down in Chicago, I'll reach out and take you for a coffee—it feels like it’s been forever since we actually sat down.☕

Hehe...😂
Too good!!!
Sounds like a plan, thanks.
☕
Andrew Booth29 Andrew Booth29 Regular
338 messages
joined Mar 2012
#134 ·
If you head over to the JPMorgan Chase website, you'll see a notice posted there... They actually have a built-in loan calculator on the site too, so you might as well plug in your own numbers and see where you stand.
Lawrence Wright7 Lawrence Wright7 Active MemberOP
96 messages
joined Mar 2010
#135 ·
Richard Lewis16 said:there isn't much left to do besides wait for the end
personally, I have a feeling we're going to see more price hikes coming, especially with everything going on with the dollar and all the chaos surrounding it...

Honestly, I’m actually relieved to see Richard Lewis16 was wrong about this one—and I bet a hell of a lot of other people are feeling the same sense of relief too.🙂>
Lawrence Wright7 Lawrence Wright7 Active MemberOP
96 messages
joined Mar 2010
#136 ·
Andrew Booth29 said:If you head over to the JPMorgan Chase website, you'll see a notice posted there... They actually have a built-in loan calculator on the site too, so you might as well plug in your own numbers and see where you stand.

I did. It’s actually a decent tool; I hadn't bothered using it before now.
Plugged everything in and this was the result:
annuity: approx $1210
And back when I actually started paying off my loan in May 2008, my interest rate was sitting at 6.3% and the monthly payment was $1153.
Richard Lewis16 Richard Lewis16 Active Member
221 messages
joined Sep 2009
#137 ·
Lawrence Wright7 said:Honestly, I’m actually relieved to see Richard Lewis16 was wrong about this one—and I bet a hell of a lot of other people are feeling the same sense of relief too.🙂>

Honestly, it’s just good to hear that... because, well, thanks to you (and everyone else here, really), I’m feeling pretty good about it too... 😉

Look, since I’m clearly the resident pessimist around here, I can't help but worry that this whole thing is just some short-lived dip... especially when you consider our credit rating hasn't actually budged, and the government is finding it increasingly difficult to scrape together enough cash to cover its debts while simultaneously trying to keep up with daily operating costs, and so on...

So, he finally landed that job... though I have to say, it’s a bit bizarre when you think about it, considering our bid was basically half the price of everyone else's... but hey, hopefully, that means some actual cash is finally heading his way, especially with summer right around the corner and all that...
But honestly, don't pay too much attention to me... I've already proven myself to be a bit of a paranoid wreck... 😉

So, I see you’ve landed at 7 for now... and honestly, if you ask me, hitting somewhere in that 7 to 8 range feels like the right move for the long haul, which is why I'm just sitting here crossing my fingers that we start seeing those numbers drift downward soon...
Kimberly King Kimberly King Newcomer
4 messages
joined Mar 2010
#138 ·
Something happened today that has left me feeling completely lost regarding my next move.
I’ll try to give you the short version of what’s going on, but I really need some honest advice on how to handle this and what my actual legal rights are here.

I started working about three years ago. Opened an account at JPMorgan Chase and had a steady paycheck coming in. Back then, my salary was $1067 (sadly true), and I took out an auto loan for a car I desperately needed; I’ve been paying that off for nearly three years now with monthly payments of $367. To put it bluntly, that left me with just $700 to live on. I also picked up a Mastercard with a credit limit of 40 $0.00 and $2333 for cash advances. Since I enrolled in an expensive private college program, having that card felt necessary. On top of that, I took out three separate loans—one for $260, another for 144k, and $85—which brought my total monthly obligations to $400. I also did some cash advances that I managed to cycle through regularly for a few months. But then, some personal issues popped up, and I couldn't pay back the cash advance within the window. I'll admit, that was my mistake. I ended up in the hole by 15 $0.00. They even revoked my authorized overdraft of $1167, so everything was deep in the red. Every three months, I was hit with interest charges of $167. I tried to power through it—between the $367 loan payment, the $400 Mastercard bill, and the mounting overdraft, every cent that hit my account went straight toward shrinking that deficit. In the meantime, my pay was cut down to $933 (thanks to the recession, I guess), but somehow, over several months, I managed to whittle the debt down to $3067.
It’s worth noting that I haven't actually seen a single dollar in cash for months; the bank just claws everything back immediately, so I've been scraping by with help from my parents and picking up extra side gigs. But yesterday, instead of my usual $400 Mastercard payment being processed, they just wiped out all my credits and dumped 18 $0.00 directly into my checking account. It was as if the Mastercard didn't even exist anymore.

Now, I'm sitting at a negative balance of 27 $0.00.

I was fully planning on paying off that 10 $0.00 deficit next week and getting back on track, but now I have no idea what to do. This isn't a small amount, and I'm terrified they’re going to start formal collection proceedings against me.

Here is what I need to know:
Do they have the right to keep seizing my entire paycheck, or can I legally demand to keep a portion of my earnings? Is there a limit to how much they can take—like, can they grab more than a third of my pay, and under what circumstances? Is there any way to fight back so I can see at least some of the money I'm working myself to the bone for, rather than watching them snatch it all through these bizarre maneuvers?

Please, if anyone has advice, I’m all ears. I'm dealing with JPMorgan Chase, and it feels like they're just doing whatever they want, but I've finally reached my breaking point. I don't think they have the legal authority to just swallow my whole paycheck. If anyone knows the law on this, please help me out.

Thanks so much in advance...
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
543 messages
joined Jul 2009
#139 ·
Hmm... from what I understand, an EC MC card doesn't just grant you a blanket limit for both cash advances and retail purchases... there’s a specific spending limit on the card itself, and if you're looking for a cash advance, you actually have to submit a formal request. Honestly, with your current income, you wouldn't even qualify for $3,000... actually, let's be real, you wouldn't get anything at all because you're already tied up with that car loan...

What I really want to know is why you didn't step up when you realized you were drowning? Why didn't you react once it became clear you couldn't cover these costs?
The bank isn't just going to cancel revolving credit and cash advances out of nowhere
They only roll the entire balance over into immediate debt against your checking account when they can't reach any kind of agreement with the client after a prolonged period. I'm certain they sent you notices, warnings, or gave you calls... besides, banks have been offering repayment restructuring to clients like this for ages because managing risk and actually collecting payment is their absolute number one priority...

Look, I'll concede that banks have a massive amount of leeway—though that's highly debatable depending on how you view it—but there have always been, and still are, ways to negotiate with them... Did you even bother walking into the branch to ask about your options?

With a standard loan, they can't just seize your entire paycheck, but we aren't talking about that here; this is about being deep in the red on your checking account... everything that hits that account goes straight toward clearing the debt... and that’s exactly how it will continue until you finally sit down with the bank and hammer out a repayment plan...

And what's the status on the car loan? How are you handling that?
David Jackson4 David Jackson4 Member
26 messages
joined Mar 2010
#140 ·
Kimberly Nguyen said:Hmm... from what I understand, an EC MC card doesn't just grant you a blanket limit for both cash advances and retail purchases... there’s a specific spending limit on the card itself, and if you're looking for a cash advance, you actually have to submit a formal request. Honestly, with your current income, you wouldn't even qualify for $3,000... actually, let's be real, you wouldn't get anything at all because you're already tied up with that car loan...

What I really want to know is why you didn't step up when you realized you were drowning? Why didn't you react once it became clear you couldn't cover these costs?
The bank isn't just going to cancel revolving credit and cash advances out of nowhere
They only roll the entire balance over into immediate debt against your checking account when they can't reach any kind of agreement with the client after a prolonged period. I'm certain they sent you notices, warnings, or gave you calls... besides, banks have been offering repayment restructuring to clients like this for ages because managing risk and actually collecting payment is their absolute number one priority...

Look, I'll concede that banks have a massive amount of leeway—though that's highly debatable depending on how you view it—but there have always been, and still are, ways to negotiate with them... Did you even bother walking into the branch to ask about your options?

With a standard loan, they can't just seize your entire paycheck, but we aren't talking about that here; this is about being deep in the red on your checking account... everything that hits that account goes straight toward clearing the debt... and that’s exactly how it will continue until you finally sit down with the bank and hammer out a repayment plan...

And what's the status on the car loan? How are you handling that?

I don't know, I guess I disagree. Everything you just mentioned is pretty much exclusively what JPMorgan Chase does. They seem to be the only bank in the US that thinks they have the right to take your credit card balance, dump it onto your checking account, push you straight into a massive overdraft, and then hit you with interest rates that feel totally predatory. It’s because so many customers mess up and sign these bundles that include several products at once. Nobody really notices that fine print where it says everything is "linked" specifically for situations like this. I suppose they've protected themselves, just like almost any other bank would, but the real difference is that JPMorgan Chase makes it incredibly difficult to actually sit down and work out a repayment plan once a client's finances fall apart.

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