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Greed should be illegal

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Participants Carol Cook59restlesscrane152frozenmason78electricorca95Casey Stewart17Casey Bennett2Mark Nguyen6coastalorca3Morgan Rodriguez57Henry Morris3Charles Lopez3Scott ReedJerry Morales4Laura Barrett3David Ramirez16Nicole Jamesboldnomad45Sam Martinez9wearypilot34darksurfer4Elizabeth Lopez2Morgan Cook10vividfox9
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#21 ·
Greed really is the bedrock and the driving force behind capitalism... ☕
Henry Morris3 Henry Morris3 Active Member
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#22 ·
electricorca95 said:Good, honest people always end up getting screwed, no matter how you look at it.

You ask for a little something from life, and you get less than nothing.

About 80 percent of the people in our prisons shouldn't even be there. They’re just stuck because they can't afford to buy their way out, and the system needs to hit its quota of inmates
to make it look like justice is actually being served in this country.

Most people in jail are just victims of circumstance. Either the system chewed them up or they were set up.

It’s the same story with mental health facilities. Most of them are harmless people—just like the prisoners—but the system keeps regular citizens locked away in hospitals.

And what have those people in high office actually done for us? Robbed us and exploited us. A person eventually just snaps when everything around them is broken and they have no power to fix it.

They treat these people like animals, and then they make sure they can't get back on their feet once they're released.

What's the point of those background checks? Using a criminal record to harass someone makes zero sense. If a person has served their time, why keep branding them for it?

An American criminal record check is pretty straightforward if you've been legally convicted. It’s basically just proof that there isn't an active case pending against you or that you haven't been convicted in a final, binding judgment... nothing more than that.
Henry Morris3 Henry Morris3 Active Member
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#23 ·
Charles said:Think about it... is there actually any single factor on this planet that does more damage to the progress of humanity than GREED?
Just look at how many people suffer every year—physically, mentally, emotionally—all because of pure greed.
How much does it hold us back? Think of all those brilliant inventions just sitting in a drawer somewhere, gathering dust because someone wanted to protect their bottom line...

I honestly think greed should be clearly defined and actually outlawed.

What are your thoughts?

Well, I have to disagree. There are definitely other factors. You see, greed is often tied to ambition, and you can't really have progress without some level of drive... To me, things like extreme socialist policies or overextending welfare benefits to the point where it encourages laziness seem far more damaging to society as a whole.
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#24 ·
Greed is always fundamentally illegal at its core because it inevitably drags a trail of criminal behavior right along with it, and honestly, once that happens, it just becomes this massive engine that starts tearing down the very fabric of our society, or even civilization itself.
Casey Stewart17 Casey Stewart17 Member
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#25 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Greed is always fundamentally illegal at its core because it inevitably drags a trail of criminal behavior right along with it, and honestly, once that happens, it just becomes this massive engine that starts tearing down the very fabric of our society, or even civilization itself.

My son swiped a bigger piece of chocolate than my daughter did yesterday. Where do I file an official report for this felony?
Scott Reed Scott Reed Newcomer
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#26 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:Greed really is the bedrock and the driving force behind capitalism... ☕

At the end of the day, you’ve got to have some kind of motivation, right? Everyone has their own unique reason for why they do what they do and how they choose to go about it.☕
restlesscrane152 restlesscrane152 Active Member
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#27 ·
Casey Stewart17 said:My son swiped a bigger piece of chocolate than my daughter did yesterday. Where do I file an official report for this felony?

Throw him straight to jail! Total chaos. He’s out here destroying the very foundations of social, family, and human solidarity.😁
Jerry Morales4 Jerry Morales4 Member
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#28 ·
Greed is probably worse than any other vice. To borrow a thought from Tole regarding the New World:

Driven by greed and seemingly oblivious to how they're all interconnected, people just keep repeating the same patterns. If nothing intervenes, I guess it’s only a matter of time before they engineer their own downfall.

I suppose there's another form of collective mental failure at play here—a type of violence we haven't even begun to name. It’s how we treat every other living thing and the planet itself. We destroy the forests that provide our oxygen, mistreat animals in industrial farms, and poison our rivers, oceans, and air. Maybe it's just how things are.

I suppose humanity's greatest achievement isn't found in art, science, or technology. Maybe it’s just finally recognizing our own madness.
I have some great thoughts on this, but I just don't feel like typing them all out.
Laura Barrett3 Laura Barrett3 Newcomer
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#29 ·
Charles said:Think about it—is there any single factor on this planet more destructive to human progress than GREED?
How many people suffer every year—physically, mentally, and emotionally—just because someone couldn't get enough?
How much does it hold us back? How many incredible inventions are just sitting in a drawer collecting dust because they weren't profitable enough?

Honestly, we should define greed and make it illegal.

I’d love to hear your thoughts.

It blows my mind that despite all our massive investments in science and tech, we haven't pinpointed a specific "greed center" in the brain yet.
If we could use neurosurgery to just... neutralize it, we'd basically have a New World overnight.
The Tenth Commandment would finally become obsolete! 🙂
David Ramirez16 David Ramirez16 Member
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#30 ·
How do we actually create legal standards for pure greed
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
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#31 ·
Greed is actually the bedrock of a thriving economy. On the flip side, laziness—believe it or not—is the true driver behind innovation. In my view, both are essentially human virtues.
boldnomad45 boldnomad45 Active Member
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#32 ·
Nicole James said:Greed is actually the bedrock of a thriving economy. On the flip side, laziness—believe it or not—is the true driver behind innovation. In my view, both are essentially human virtues.

haha, greed is good -G Gecko
Sam Martinez9 Sam Martinez9 Regular
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#33 ·
Charles said:Think about it—is there any single factor on this planet that stunts human progress more than GREED?
Just look at the numbers. How many people suffer physical, mental, and emotional trauma every year because someone else wanted just a little bit more?
How much does it set us back? Think of all the brilliant inventions that end up gathering dust in a drawer because they weren't profitable enough for some CEO.

Greed should be clearly defined and outlawed.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.

The reality is that greed is the engine driving capitalism. And capitalism is incredibly potent; it essentially runs the world, facing no true rival or competitor.

Capitalism will never abandon the very thing that fuels its daily growth and power. Asking it to stop being greedy would be like asking a person to give up the fountain of youth and simply choose to grow old and die.
wearypilot34 wearypilot34 Member
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#34 ·
Greed serves as the engine for every system, not just capitalism...
Sam Martinez9 Sam Martinez9 Regular
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#35 ·
wearypilot34 said:Greed serves as the engine for every system, not just capitalism...

I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

There are actually several different flavors of greed—one might even argue that a certain *hunger for knowledge* qualifies.
darksurfer4 darksurfer4 Active Member
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#36 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:Greed really is the bedrock and the driving force behind capitalism... ☕

Oh, absolutely. I mean, if we’re really going down that road, the only logical conclusion would be to just scrap private property altogether, pivot to a full-blown command economy, and implement a policy where everyone gets paid the exact same salary regardless of what they actually do—if that's really the kind of utopia we're all dying to live in.🤔
Sam Martinez9 Sam Martinez9 Regular
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#37 ·
darksurfer4 said:Oh, absolutely. I mean, if we’re really going down that road, the only logical conclusion would be to just scrap private property altogether, pivot to a full-blown command economy, and implement a policy where everyone gets paid the exact same salary regardless of what they actually do—if that's really the kind of utopia we're all dying to live in.🤔

No, I actually think that would just fuel more greed.

First off, everyone needs to have their basic necessities covered—food, clothing, shelter, heat, that sort of thing. Most developed Western nations have managed to achieve this for a significant majority of their population already.

Second, there is the matter of consciousness.

While the first point is relatively straightforward, the second is anything but, and there isn't a magic formula for it (though it happens organically regardless). People need to internalize the idea that hoarding possessions won't actually make them happier; a closet full of designer clothes doesn't fundamentally improve one's quality of life, and one can still be enslaved by material wealth.

I recall a recent documentary featuring Milić in some Scandinavian country—I can't quite remember which one. He interviews this incredibly wealthy young entrepreneur, a CEO type, asking if he owns a Rolex. The man simply replies that he doesn't, in fact, doesn't own a watch at all.

And just as a side note—wages have never truly been equal for everyone.
Elizabeth Lopez2 Elizabeth Lopez2 Member
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#38 ·
Greed is a terrible trait, sure, but you can't exactly write a law against it. You only get hauled into court when that greed drives someone to commit an actual crime. There are plenty of greedy people walking the streets of Chicago or NYC right now who haven't broken a single statute. I can't think of any state in the Union that has laws specifically punishing someone just for being greedy in its purest sense. Then again, there are a million other negative traits out there—what then? You can't throw someone in jail just because they aren't a decent human being.
Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#39 ·
But look, folks... the answer is staring you right in the face. Eureka !! I’ve actually cracked the code to making the entire world happy.

Here’s my pitch: let the greedy hand over everything they own to those who have nothing. That way, everyone wins.
The ones without greed get some spiritual enlightenment, and the greedy types get their material Nirvana. Everyone gets exactly what they’re chasing in life.

Hmm... or maybe I just swapped "greed" with "envy."
Elizabeth Lopez2 Elizabeth Lopez2 Member
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#40 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:Greed really is the bedrock and the driving force behind capitalism... ☕

True enough. If we actually made it illegal, half the CEOs out there would be trading their corner offices for prison cells.

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