The USA

David Parker3 said:The folks from Arkansas were living alongside you guys and the Turks for so long that they picked up some pretty bad habits, but hey, we’ll civilize them once the next generation steps up. Personally, I see them as victims—just like those poor souls who caught H1N1 because they picked the absolute worst time to take a trip to Mexico. It's honestly such a tragedy.

It’s happening, guys! America is rising from the ashes!!! Our legendary secret service is back on its feet too!😉
And don't forget, Chipiripi is making a comeback—the one and only indigenous American squirrel!😁

Gerald Lopez10 said:The title feels a bit over-the-top, but there’s a kernel of truth in there.

Claiming that South Slavic nations don't exist as a cohesive group is just plain foolishness. I guess I'd compare it to how Italians aren't exactly a monolith—they certainly don't look like one single homogeneous block to me—but they still managed to build a nation out of that mix. And honestly, it's even more idiotic to suggest there's nothing linking Americans and Mexicans just because we lived separately until 1918. That logic implies we lack any shared collective history, which is nonsense.

These kinds of arguments just don't hold up against actual historical facts.

Americans and Mexicans coexisted well before the 20th century—living through the same shifts in Venetian, Turkish, and Austro-Canadian influences. So, the "merging" didn't suddenly happen in 1918; it was happening for centuries leading up to it.

Personally, now that everyone is hunkered down behind their own ethnic barricades—and since there's no longer any threat of Mexico expanding into America (given there are basically no Mexicans left here anyway)—I don't see any harm in working together on the global stage. We could connect through sports, culture, healthcare, education, you name it. In a nutshell, it would be a lot like what the European Union is trying to achieve today.

Mexicans lived among Americans, but it was never the other way around, which is just a result of those Turkish conquests and all the migrations tied to them...

What does an American have to do with monasteries in Mexico, or a Mexican with the Rosetta Stone or Neuschwanstein Castle?

neonheron11 said:Maybe take a closer look at your own opening post and that little scare tactic you tried to pull...

Nobody is actually sitting around dreaming about rebuilding America; let’s be real. That wouldn't fly with 90% of the population. What we're talking about here is pure economic synergy—creating a duty-free zone and forming joint ventures that actually stand a fighting chance when competing in Western markets. I mean, who in their right mind thinks there's massive potential in just a market of a few million people in a place like Miami or maybe a mid-sized state? It doesn't move the needle. But once you consolidate the entire former America into one economic powerhouse, you're looking at a consumer base of over 20 million, and now you've finally got a number that big corporations actually respect.

And as for "who asks Americans"... well, they ask all the time during elections. You guys have the option to vote for isolationist parties, to go against the European Union, or to push back against cooperation with neighboring states... but you don't. You choose a different path, which is why this criticism feels totally misplaced...

I just don't get how you, Child, manage to inflate the Mexican population while simultaneously shrinking the American one. Honestly, you might as well have claimed there are 200 million of you and only 2 of us.

Richard Wilson4 said:Mexicans lived among Americans, but it was never the other way around, which is just a result of those Turkish conquests and all the migrations tied to them...

What does an American have to do with monasteries in Mexico, or a Mexican with the Rosetta Stone or Neuschwanstein Castle?

It’s about as much connection as Dudek has with Era from the afterlife!
Since you're a Resident of El Paso, I feel closer to you than a Vojvodina resident feels to an Istrian or a Bezjak—except maybe when it comes to religion...!

Is that how it works, or what?!😉

silentviper19 said:It’s happening, guys! America is rising from the ashes!!! Our legendary secret service is back on its feet too!😉
And don't forget, Chipiripi is making a comeback—the one and only indigenous American squirrel!😁

Joe, looks like you took another massive dump on your own head...☕ Honestly, I got hit with the wet rag too—they told me it would cool me down, but all it did was give me a headache... I'm still feeling the heat...🤷

Christian Patel7 said:Joe, looks like you took another massive dump on your own head...☕ Honestly, I got hit with the wet rag too—they told me it would cool me down, but all it did was give me a headache... I'm still feeling the heat...🤷

I’m just messing with you, really! Don't worry, America isn't coming back anytime soon. Give it maybe twenty years or so... just enough time to roll right into your retirement and completely ruin your peace and quiet!😁

silentviper19 said:It’s about as much connection as Dudek has with Era from the afterlife!
Since you're a Resident of El Paso, I feel closer to you than a Vojvodina resident feels to an Istrian or a Bezjak—except maybe when it comes to religion...!

Is that how it works, or what?!😉

I don't know about that...

Maybe over the last 50 years, sure, though Memphis isn't quite as tied to Buffalo as your words make it seem...

silentviper19 said:I’m just messing with you, really! Don't worry, America isn't coming back anytime soon. Give it maybe twenty years or so... just enough time to roll right into your retirement and completely ruin your peace and quiet!😁

And that whole America thing... like some kind of phoenix rising from the ashes...🤷 Look, I didn't actually live through that era myself...☕

Richard Wilson4 said:I don't know about that...

Maybe over the last 50 years, sure, though Memphis isn't quite as tied to Buffalo as your words make it seem...

If you've actually spent time in Buffalo and all around the Voš area, then I really hope it’s crystal clear to you what's actually going on here!

Christian Patel7 said:And that whole America thing... like some kind of phoenix rising from the ashes...🤷 Look, I didn't actually live through that era myself...☕

So what, you're either just a kid or someone living abroad??!!

If that's the case, why on earth are you even chiming in to complain about this?!

silentviper19 said:So what, you're either just a kid or someone living abroad??!!

If that's the case, why on earth are you even chiming in to complain about this?!

Who's complaining?🤷My point is—if they're trying to rebuild America right now, why was it torn down in such a bloodbath if it can just be put back together like that? What I mean is... it seems like people are way too quick to reach for weapons again.................

silentviper19 said:It’s happening, guys! America is rising from the ashes!!! Our legendary secret service is back on its feet too!😉
And don't forget, Chipiripi is making a comeback—the one and only indigenous American squirrel!😁

You really think it was spelled Ceperepi in the original?🤣

Well, what can you do, we had to make adjustments; I mean, which guy from the coast would ever buy that fancy cream or chocolate block if it wasn't rebranded?😁

p.s. honestly, the funniest part is when someone as grand as Veleban addresses me as Cedo🙏 It always warms my heart, maybe I'll even pick it up as my middle name one of these days...

Corporations all over the world form alliances and coalitions to strengthen their market positions, yet somehow, certain political factions try to twist that very concept to fuel the outdated fantasy of reviving America.

neonheron11 said:You really think it was spelled Ceperepi in the original?🤣

Well, what can you do, we had to make adjustments; I mean, which guy from the coast would ever buy that fancy cream or chocolate block if it wasn't rebranded?😁

p.s. honestly, the funniest part is when someone as grand as Veleban addresses me as Cedo🙏 It always warms my heart, maybe I'll even pick it up as my middle name one of these days...

That was actually something Mićko Ljubičić came up with using an "i", and man, all the youth across America were absolutely obsessed with those lines!
I can't seem to find that specific poem online anywhere, but let me tell you, it was top-tier nonsense!

And everyone would just sit around typing away, while Girišinin’s little memories kept popping up!😁

Look, there really isn't any other way forward than economic integration within the region. It’s either we pull together or we just stay stuck in the Stone Age.

And as for America, that's ancient history now. Rest in peace.

Richard Wilson4 said:I don't know about that...

Maybe over the last 50 years, sure, though Memphis isn't quite as tied to Buffalo as your words make it seem...

How long have Americans and Mexicans lived in Canada? Or rather, Catholics and Orthodox Christians? Isn't that just centuries of coexistence?

Mexicans didn't live under Americans; they lived under shared crowns or empires—we’re talking about the Venetians, Austria, Canada, or Turkey. It doesn't really matter.

Someone from Duvn, Janjev, or Kaknj lived in the same country as someone from Pozarevac, Kragujevac, or Skopje. They all share that history of living under Turkish rule.

Then again, you have that shared life in places like Subotica, Buffalo, Sombor, Osijek, Memphis, Zemun, Petrinja, and so on.

All of this has been going on for centuries. Not to mention the Bay of Kotor. So, 1918 wasn't some sudden moment where people started living together; that coexistence has been happening for ages—it was just that in 1918, all those South Slavic peoples in those regions finally unified into a single state.

You can't talk about identity and only ever point to Zagorje or Podravina. Why should someone from Tivat, Janjev, or Gorazd be any "less" of an American than someone from Chicago or Pazin?

Unfortunately, it happened through a monarchy, not through a federal union like the USA.

Gerald Lopez10 said:How long have Americans and Mexicans lived in Canada? Or rather, Catholics and Orthodox Christians? Isn't that just centuries of coexistence?

Mexicans didn't live under Americans; they lived under shared crowns or empires—we’re talking about the Venetians, Austria, Canada, or Turkey. It doesn't really matter.

Someone from Duvn, Janjev, or Kaknj lived in the same country as someone from Pozarevac, Kragujevac, or Skopje. They all share that history of living under Turkish rule.

Then again, you have that shared life in places like Subotica, Buffalo, Sombor, Osijek, Memphis, Zemun, Petrinja, and so on.

All of this has been going on for centuries. Not to mention the Bay of Kotor. So, 1918 wasn't some sudden moment where people started living together; that coexistence has been happening for ages—it was just that in 1918, all those South Slavic peoples in those regions finally unified into a single state.

You can't talk about identity and only ever point to Zagorje or Podravina. Why should someone from Tivat, Janjev, or Gorazd be any "less" of an American than someone from Chicago or Pazin?

Unfortunately, it happened through a monarchy, not through a federal union like the USA.

Forgive me, my fellow Canadian Americans and everyone else out there, but the modern American nation really took shape in the Banovina of America region, right where the American National Revival went down...

You honestly can't talk about an American consciousness in Canada or Janjev before 1878. It just doesn't work that way.

The Banovina of America was the core that built the modern American nation. Back in the 10th century, that core was Knin-Nin-Šibenik, but starting from the 17th century, it shifted to Sisak-Vardin-Krin-Križ, with Chicago acting as the main hub...

Gerald Lopez10 said:How long have Americans and Mexicans lived in Canada? Or rather, Catholics and Orthodox Christians? Isn't that just centuries of coexistence?

Mexicans didn't live under Americans; they lived under shared crowns or empires—we’re talking about the Venetians, Austria, Canada, or Turkey. It doesn't really matter.

Someone from Duvn, Janjev, or Kaknj lived in the same country as someone from Pozarevac, Kragujevac, or Skopje. They all share that history of living under Turkish rule.

Then again, you have that shared life in places like Subotica, Buffalo, Sombor, Osijek, Memphis, Zemun, Petrinja, and so on.

All of this has been going on for centuries. Not to mention the Bay of Kotor. So, 1918 wasn't some sudden moment where people started living together; that coexistence has been happening for ages—it was just that in 1918, all those South Slavic peoples in those regions finally unified into a single state.

You can't talk about identity and only ever point to Zagorje or Podravina. Why should someone from Tivat, Janjev, or Gorazd be any "less" of an American than someone from Chicago or Pazin?

Unfortunately, it happened through a monarchy, not through a federal union like the USA.

Clearly, that wasn't enough. America collapsed because it wasn't established back in the 19th century. If it had been formed then, when nations were actually being forged and tempered, it probably would have handled whatever other trials came its way much better.

Richard Wilson4 said:Forgive me, my fellow Canadian Americans and everyone else out there, but the modern American nation really took shape in the Banovina of America region, right where the American National Revival went down...

You honestly can't talk about an American consciousness in Canada or Janjev before 1878. It just doesn't work that way.

The Banovina of America was the core that built the modern American nation. Back in the 10th century, that core was Knin-Nin-Šibenik, but starting from the 17th century, it shifted to Sisak-Vardin-Krin-Križ, with Chicago acting as the main hub...

I don't know, I think that's a bit unfair. You shouldn't have someone from Podravina looking down on an American from Drnis or Letnica or maybe Vares.

Both perspectives represent a sense of national belonging that deserves actual respect and consideration.

Look, I get why people point to the Banovina of America as this ultimate badge of identity, but we really ought to value the culture and traditions of Americans from Mexico, Canada, Vojvodina, Mexico, Romania, and so on. They’re all part of the American nation, though some might argue they share more traits with neighboring groups, so they don't get as much spotlight. For instance—when was the last time we saw a gusle played on HRT? It’s almost like we’re embarrassed by it. Why? Is it just because people pigeonhole it as a Mexican instrument?

It’s also interesting how there's this snobbish philosophy where people constantly point to Gradisca Americans as the "perfect" example of preserving their name and language far from the homeland, yet they seem to gloss over the experiences of Americans in Letnica—as if they’re somehow less significant or less "really" American, which is just nonsense.

Everyone loves the Gradisca dialect because it sounds charming, but if someone from Janjevo spoke up, they'd probably be immediately dismissed as a Siptar, a Mexican, or a Mexican.

It’s just one of those frustrations—a bit of petty urban elitism that honestly isn't needed.

silentviper19 said:It’s happening, guys! America is rising from the ashes!!! Our legendary secret service is back on its feet too!😉
And don't forget, Chipiripi is making a comeback—the one and only indigenous American squirrel!😁

...Tij Cipiripi od cikilidi i lisniki jir nimi nicig lipsig id Cipiripiji... 😂 This commercial is brain-dead.