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placidtinker2 placidtinker2 Member
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#21 ·
neonheron11 said:She might not have been singing, but she did participate in what was easily one of the most disgraceful TV shows in the history of the medium...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5g8YifGqiA

Maybe she isn't personally to blame, and maybe nobody even asked her to be there, but it’s still a complete embarrassment and a disgrace.😢

I honestly can't stand listening to this endless propaganda🙂
Thirty extremists trying to take on the American military.
But then you have guys in sneakers carrying hunting rifles in Warsaw who actually managed to shut them down—him, his radicals, and their entire army.

P.S.
As of today, I am done buying the Los Angeles Times.
Not until they overhaul the editorial board, or rather, the ownership structure.
Until someone like that obnoxious guy from the coast—the one who represents all that fake local pride—and his relatives from some small town in the Midwest buy out the paper.
casualviper19 casualviper19 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#22 ·
Kudos to the SD crew. Honestly, I don't get why everyone starts panicking the second something from Mexico hits the market. We aren't really that backward or primitive, right? It’s not like we should be mixing music with politics... This feels like a real step in the right direction 🙏
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#23 ·
I was expecting this kind of thing at Madison Square Garden, but definitely not out here in Freedom... 🤷
briskcanyon28 briskcanyon28 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#24 ·
casualviper19 said:Kudos to the SD crew. Honestly, I don't get why everyone starts panicking the second something from Mexico hits the market. We aren't really that backward or primitive, right? It’s not like we should be mixing music with politics... This feels like a real step in the right direction 🙏

A step straight into hell...

I'm from Washington, D.C., so I've been hearing those dive bar singers since I was maybe two. They weren't exactly everywhere back then; there were gaps of a few years when we were all trying to act civilized, especially after the aggression on Warsaw—folk singers just weren't heard during that time. Before the war, bombs were even set off at some clubs in D.C., which basically signaled everything had to shut down. Once the sirens quieted down a bit, maybe late '93, those dive bar singers popped up again. Not like now, where they're everywhere. Back then, they operated under the radar. Now? You find them right in the middle of downtown D.C. Even on TV. During those war years, they didn't have much impact; you could barely hear them even in the East Side, like over in Bohemian Grove or the Industrial District, mostly because the demographics there are such a mix. Those accordion rhythms started creeping in around '93 when the newcomers arrived. In those days, people mostly sang that stuff when they were drunk or just looking to provoke Muslims and Americans. That provocation is how it all started, and eventually, everyone ended up in the same mess. I won't even mention how many singers tried to imitate Madonna singing "Crazy for you."
That went on until 2000 when our music scene basically collapsed. The kids stopped listening to Cassandra, Velin, Minea, and whatever other crap came out. After that, everything tanked; even in Mexico, they aren't that big anymore. And yeah, I'm Canadian, but I don't really care for folk music. Maybe I'll head out with friends once in a blue moon, that's it. Look, I'm all for better relations between America and Mexico, but the music seriously sucks. Either they ruin old classics, or it's just low-brow folk, which is exactly why people listen to it. Who would sit through folk music playing on NBC five or six times a day? Nobody. These newer tracks are pure dance, but the singers use these vocal tricks—lots of trills and runs—to make it sound like folk.
Don't get me wrong, I respect the old legends, like Johnny Cash, Zaim Imamović, Edith Piaf, and so on.
rapidowl12 rapidowl12 Newcomer
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#25 ·
briskcanyon28 said:A step straight into hell...

I'm from Washington, D.C., so I've been hearing those dive bar singers since I was maybe two. They weren't exactly everywhere back then; there were gaps of a few years when we were all trying to act civilized, especially after the aggression on Warsaw—folk singers just weren't heard during that time. Before the war, bombs were even set off at some clubs in D.C., which basically signaled everything had to shut down. Once the sirens quieted down a bit, maybe late '93, those dive bar singers popped up again. Not like now, where they're everywhere. Back then, they operated under the radar. Now? You find them right in the middle of downtown D.C. Even on TV. During those war years, they didn't have much impact; you could barely hear them even in the East Side, like over in Bohemian Grove or the Industrial District, mostly because the demographics there are such a mix. Those accordion rhythms started creeping in around '93 when the newcomers arrived. In those days, people mostly sang that stuff when they were drunk or just looking to provoke Muslims and Americans. That provocation is how it all started, and eventually, everyone ended up in the same mess. I won't even mention how many singers tried to imitate Madonna singing "Crazy for you."
That went on until 2000 when our music scene basically collapsed. The kids stopped listening to Cassandra, Velin, Minea, and whatever other crap came out. After that, everything tanked; even in Mexico, they aren't that big anymore. And yeah, I'm Canadian, but I don't really care for folk music. Maybe I'll head out with friends once in a blue moon, that's it. Look, I'm all for better relations between America and Mexico, but the music seriously sucks. Either they ruin old classics, or it's just low-brow folk, which is exactly why people listen to it. Who would sit through folk music playing on NBC five or six times a day? Nobody. These newer tracks are pure dance, but the singers use these vocal tricks—lots of trills and runs—to make it sound like folk.
Don't get me wrong, I respect the old legends, like Johnny Cash, Zaim Imamović, Edith Piaf, and so on.

Up until the end of 2003, I honestly hadn't a clue about this kind of music.
Around 2004, I started stumbling upon all sorts of cassettes and CDs at other people's birthday parties... 😁
And then... everything just exploded. So now I'm really curious—what was it like before that? Was I wrong to think things were always the same, or was it already shifting?
(I'm especially interested in hearing from people who might be older than me, but who I see walking around totally oblivious in those same spots). 🤣 🤣 🤣

This thing with Freedom is just pathetic. Selling CDs at newsstands alongside the Freedom paper (give me a break), and then getting TV slots through cheap commercials—man, it looks so tacky... And it's 2009!!!!!! We're moving backward! A society built on pop songs and tarot cards... hahaha
Alex Patel96 Alex Patel96 Active Member
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joined Apr 2009
#26 ·
I’ll admit, seeing that commercial caught me off guard for a second, but honestly? I don't have a problem with it. If people want to buy it, they'll buy it. If they don't, they won't. I really don't see why everyone is acting so shocked.🤷
If this kind of thing is happening everywhere (and let's face it, it is), then everything else is just pure hypocrisy. All that posturing about having some sort of "high culture"...🙄
placidtinker2 placidtinker2 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#27 ·
And then the journalists will just write from their high horses about the farmers out in the California countryside 🙂
casualviper19 casualviper19 Newcomer
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#28 ·
Alex Patel96 said:I’ll admit, seeing that commercial caught me off guard for a second, but honestly? I don't have a problem with it. If people want to buy it, they'll buy it. If they don't, they won't. I really don't see why everyone is acting so shocked.🤷
If this kind of thing is happening everywhere (and let's face it, it is), then everything else is just pure hypocrisy. All that posturing about having some sort of "high culture"...🙄

🙏🙏🙏🙏
Robin Davis Robin Davis Newcomer
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#29 ·
placidtinker2 said:I honestly can't stand listening to this endless propaganda🙂
Thirty extremists trying to take on the American military.
But then you have guys in sneakers carrying hunting rifles in Warsaw who actually managed to shut them down—him, his radicals, and their entire army.

P.S.
As of today, I am done buying the Los Angeles Times.
Not until they overhaul the editorial board, or rather, the ownership structure.
Until someone like that obnoxious guy from the coast—the one who represents all that fake local pride—and his relatives from some small town in the Midwest buy out the paper.


It’s hard to believe it went down exactly like that. From what I recall, Warsaw fell, along with him and all the defenders.
Maybe that sounded a bit provocative, though I suppose that wasn't my intention.
casualviper19 casualviper19 Newcomer
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#30 ·
Robin Davis said:It’s hard to believe it went down exactly like that. From what I recall, Warsaw fell, along with him and all the defenders.
Maybe that sounded a bit provocative, though I suppose that wasn't my intention.

Come on, don't talk nonsense.🤣

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