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When are banks finally going to start acting normal?

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Chris Stewart3 Chris Stewart3 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Jul 2009
#1 ·
It seems every major bank in this country carries itself with the unearned arrogance of some higher power. One has to wonder if anyone will ever put an end to this condescending attitude toward the public.
For instance, it would be far more efficient if employers simply paid us in cash. That way, we wouldn't have to deal with banks bleeding citizens dry through endless transaction fees or dragging them into unnecessary overdraft territory just to manage basic expenses. Rather than actually providing financial education, they seem solely focused on stripping people of their hard-earned money, acting as if they practically own us.
Is there any way we can push for a meaningful shift in this relationship?
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
160 messages
joined Oct 2010
#2 ·
Chris Stewart3 said:It seems every major bank in this country carries itself with the unearned arrogance of some higher power. One has to wonder if anyone will ever put an end to this condescending attitude toward the public.
For instance, it would be far more efficient if employers simply paid us in cash. That way, we wouldn't have to deal with banks bleeding citizens dry through endless transaction fees or dragging them into unnecessary overdraft territory just to manage basic expenses. Rather than actually providing financial education, they seem solely focused on stripping people of their hard-earned money, acting as if they practically own us.
Is there any way we can push for a meaningful shift in this relationship?

What kind of commission are you even talking about...?
If someone actually started paying your salary in cash, it would probably just mess up your relationship with the bank even more, because we all know what happens when you stop having regular deposits hitting your checking account.
It's not like banks are forcing people into overdrafts; people just choose to screw up their own finances, and the banks just sit there rubbing their hands together—it's a little bit of sweet satisfaction for them. It’s not that the banks bought us, it’s that we sold ourselves.

Chris Stewart3, man, this isn't Looney Tunes, so don't start trolling here too.

Seriously, give me a break... 🙂
Gregory Williams7 Gregory Williams7 Active Member
144 messages
joined Mar 2014
#3 ·
Yes, that is simply the reality of the situation. If you have spent the money, you are obligated to pay it back. That is how the system works. Suppose you were fighting against interest rate hikes, or perhaps protesting the storage of radioactive waste near national parks; then I might understand your position. But advocating for cash payouts just to avoid settling your debts? That is wrong. Truly wrong.
Chris Stewart3 Chris Stewart3 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Jul 2009
#4 ·
Ronald Allen said:What kind of commission are you even talking about...?
If someone actually started paying your salary in cash, it would probably just mess up your relationship with the bank even more, because we all know what happens when you stop having regular deposits hitting your checking account.
It's not like banks are forcing people into overdrafts; people just choose to screw up their own finances, and the banks just sit there rubbing their hands together—it's a little bit of sweet satisfaction for them. It’s not that the banks bought us, it’s that we sold ourselves.

Chris Stewart3, man, this isn't Looney Tunes, so don't start trolling here too.

Seriously, give me a break... 🙂

Oh, absolutely, it's entirely our own fault. What stings the most is how we handed over our entire banking system to foreign interests; the truth is, they didn't come here to invest in us, they came to extract from us. If the majority of people actually shifted their loyalty toward domestic institutions, things would change significantly. It isn't just that citizens are beholden to these banks—it's the entire economy; in short, we're looking at disaster.
Charles Martin78 Charles Martin78 Active Member
101 messages
joined Mar 2011
#5 ·
Don't you worry, it’s all about to kick off. Ever since yesterday, people have already started pulling their savings out of the banks, and I suspect we'll see more and more of that happening as long as this tense atmosphere persists—especially if someone at the top decides to make some nasty "cost-cutting" moves.

At the same time, you can bet they'll hike up interest rates on loans, jack up those monthly service fees, and squeeze us for every penny under the guise of a "credit rating downgrade" or some other equally ridiculous excuse...

Throw in a few delayed paychecks or late Social Security payments, and well—it’s going to be absolute chaos out there...
Richard Lewis16 Richard Lewis16 Active Member
221 messages
joined Sep 2009
#6 ·
If you've got an account at one of those big American banks, you might as well just switch over to them 😉
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David Williams7 David Williams7 Member
10 messages
joined Jul 2009
#7 ·
Take some responsibility. It’s always easier to point fingers at someone else, but most of the time, people are just making their own mistakes. Nobody forces you to take out a loan, max out your credit cards, or live a lifestyle you can't afford. The bank isn't the problem here; it's just poor judgment.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
529 messages
joined Jul 2010
#8 ·
Chris Stewart3 said:Oh, absolutely, it's entirely our own fault. What stings the most is how we handed over our entire banking system to foreign interests; the truth is, they didn't come here to invest in us, they came to extract from us. If the majority of people actually shifted their loyalty toward domestic institutions, things would change significantly. It isn't just that citizens are beholden to these banks—it's the entire economy; in short, we're looking at disaster.

Well, nobody is stopping you from hitting up a broker and buying shares in those "foreign" banks just like I did. You get the dividends, the invites to shareholder meetings...
That way, they aren't 100% owned by outsiders anymore. Or better yet, you buy stock, your brother buys some, your uncle, your grandma, your best man... before you know it, you've got a seat at the table.😉
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
160 messages
joined Oct 2010
#9 ·
Charles Martin78 said:Don't you worry, it’s all about to kick off. Ever since yesterday, people have already started pulling their savings out of the banks, and I suspect we'll see more and more of that happening as long as this tense atmosphere persists—especially if someone at the top decides to make some nasty "cost-cutting" moves.

At the same time, you can bet they'll hike up interest rates on loans, jack up those monthly service fees, and squeeze us for every penny under the guise of a "credit rating downgrade" or some other equally ridiculous excuse...

Throw in a few delayed paychecks or late Social Security payments, and well—it’s going to be absolute chaos out there...

And honestly? It's pure stupidity. Just like when they did the exact same thing right after a recession was announced, only to have to cough all that money back up two weeks later.
Usually, a crisis doesn't even hit for another 5 or 6 months, but since our government is basically teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, God help us!
Chris Stewart3 Chris Stewart3 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Jul 2009
#10 ·
Charles Ramos7 said:Well, nobody is stopping you from hitting up a broker and buying shares in those "foreign" banks just like I did. You get the dividends, the invites to shareholder meetings...
That way, they aren't 100% owned by outsiders anymore. Or better yet, you buy stock, your brother buys some, your uncle, your grandma, your best man... before you know it, you've got a seat at the table.😉

Well, if I had that kind of surplus cash lying around, I’d certainly be investing it. But let's be realistic: it's common knowledge that Americans exert significant control over many major banks because there is such an immense amount of excess capital moving through our economy.
Richard Lewis16 Richard Lewis16 Active Member
221 messages
joined Sep 2009
#11 ·
Look, you aren't exactly throwing away surplus cash here...
I mean, think about it, nobody who actually built a fortune did it by just playing it safe with whatever change they had left over at the end of the month
You’ve got to be willing to take those risks right now, if you want even a slim chance of being wealthy down the road...
Zachary Sanchez2 Zachary Sanchez2 Member
10 messages
joined Jul 2009
#12 ·
Chris Stewart3 said:Oh, absolutely, it's entirely our own fault. What stings the most is how we handed over our entire banking system to foreign interests; the truth is, they didn't come here to invest in us, they came to extract from us. If the majority of people actually shifted their loyalty toward domestic institutions, things would change significantly. It isn't just that citizens are beholden to these banks—it's the entire economy; in short, we're looking at disaster.

It’d be a lot easier if you were just getting squeezed by an American bank instead...🤣..

Does it really matter who’s picking your pocket? Is it truly that important to you whether it's a local outfit or a massive multinational "stealing" from you?

I mean, we essentially built this machine ourselves. We created a system where we're practically forced into overdrafts and stuck paying predatory interest rates. That's the reality we earned.
Daniel Perez13 Daniel Perez13 Member
20 messages
joined Nov 2009
#13 ·
Ronald Allen said:What kind of commission are you even talking about...?
If someone actually started paying your salary in cash, it would probably just mess up your relationship with the bank even more, because we all know what happens when you stop having regular deposits hitting your checking account.
It's not like banks are forcing people into overdrafts; people just choose to screw up their own finances, and the banks just sit there rubbing their hands together—it's a little bit of sweet satisfaction for them. It’s not that the banks bought us, it’s that we sold ourselves.

Chris Stewart3, man, this isn't Looney Tunes, so don't start trolling here too.

Seriously, give me a break... 🙂

I don't get why you're getting so worked up. The idea of paying wages in cash envelopes instead of through banks is probably just a way to pressure banks into actually considering their impact on society and the economy.
It's a radical suggestion, but I wouldn't be surprised if a union eventually brought it up, mostly because banks aren't listening to anything right now.
I won't go into detail about why it's in the bank's interest to handle the payments, but they'd likely cave on several issues if they were actually threatened by an option like this.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
529 messages
joined Jul 2010
#14 ·
I’m not convinced that switching to cash-only payouts would actually rattle the banks. They have way too much room to maneuver and push back. Not only could you end up stuck without any cards, but they could easily claim that using a checking account is a mandatory requirement for any basic banking service.
Basically, you'd be left without any debit or credit cards (Americans left high and dry 😂), lose access to CDs or savings accounts, and wouldn't even be able to qualify for a loan (Americans cut off from credit 😂). Plus, they’d probably just hike up the fees for in-person teller visits while lowering online ones—though, of course, you still need a direct deposit hitting your account to use those online tools in the first place...

At the end of the day, we need them a lot more than they need us.
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
160 messages
joined Oct 2010
#15 ·
Daniel Perez13 said:I don't get why you're getting so worked up. The idea of paying wages in cash envelopes instead of through banks is probably just a way to pressure banks into actually considering their impact on society and the economy.
It's a radical suggestion, but I wouldn't be surprised if a union eventually brought it up, mostly because banks aren't listening to anything right now.
I won't go into detail about why it's in the bank's interest to handle the payments, but they'd likely cave on several issues if they were actually threatened by an option like this.

Look, if we were living in Andorra, maybe that theory might actually fly. Or if, by some freak accident, we were some kind of emerging nation starting off with a perfect GDP, a massive budget surplus, and leaders sent over from other countries to run things.
But today? When over 70% of people are living in the red, when 58% of people are juggling at least two credit cards, and 45% are stuck with a mortgage or some kind of personal loan... discussing this theory is just insane. People managed to rack all that debt up specifically because their paychecks hit their checking accounts—and, honestly, because of how foolishly they chase a certain lifestyle they feel forced to maintain.
If we suddenly switched to cash in hand right now, half of them would completely ignore their bank overdrafts, and at least a third would start skipping out on their mortgage or car payments. Do I really have to explain where that leads...?

I'm not foaming at the mouth or anything, but I thought people might actually use their brains before jumping into these trolling debates.
David Williams7 David Williams7 Member
10 messages
joined Jul 2009
#16 ·
Ronald Allen said:Look, if we were living in Andorra, maybe that theory might actually fly. Or if, by some freak accident, we were some kind of emerging nation starting off with a perfect GDP, a massive budget surplus, and leaders sent over from other countries to run things.
But today? When over 70% of people are living in the red, when 58% of people are juggling at least two credit cards, and 45% are stuck with a mortgage or some kind of personal loan... discussing this theory is just insane. People managed to rack all that debt up specifically because their paychecks hit their checking accounts—and, honestly, because of how foolishly they chase a certain lifestyle they feel forced to maintain.
If we suddenly switched to cash in hand right now, half of them would completely ignore their bank overdrafts, and at least a third would start skipping out on their mortgage or car payments. Do I really have to explain where that leads...?

I'm not foaming at the mouth or anything, but I thought people might actually use their brains before jumping into these trolling debates.

I'll second that. 👍 People just don't seem to grasp that you should be living 30% below your means, not 100% beyond them.
Chris Stewart3 Chris Stewart3 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Jul 2009
#17 ·
Charles Ramos7 said:I’m not convinced that switching to cash-only payouts would actually rattle the banks. They have way too much room to maneuver and push back. Not only could you end up stuck without any cards, but they could easily claim that using a checking account is a mandatory requirement for any basic banking service.
Basically, you'd be left without any debit or credit cards (Americans left high and dry 😂), lose access to CDs or savings accounts, and wouldn't even be able to qualify for a loan (Americans cut off from credit 😂). Plus, they’d probably just hike up the fees for in-person teller visits while lowering online ones—though, of course, you still need a direct deposit hitting your account to use those online tools in the first place...

At the end of the day, we need them a lot more than they need us.

One must remember that there was a time when plastic cards didn't even exist, yet we managed to live perfectly fine lives. Increased spending isn't inherently a problem when it's born of necessity; the issue arises when it's driven by pure luxury. Look at telecommunications today: we spend five or six times more than we did before the smartphone era. We surround ourselves with a mountain of products we never truly needed, simply because this materialist culture demands that we own and display them. We acquire things we didn't create, thereby defining our very identity through someone else's labor and borrowed money.
briskdriver110 briskdriver110 Member
10 messages
joined Feb 2009
#18 ·
Chris Stewart3 said:One must remember that there was a time when plastic cards didn't even exist, yet we managed to live perfectly fine lives. Increased spending isn't inherently a problem when it's born of necessity; the issue arises when it's driven by pure luxury. Look at telecommunications today: we spend five or six times more than we did before the smartphone era. We surround ourselves with a mountain of products we never truly needed, simply because this materialist culture demands that we own and display them. We acquire things we didn't create, thereby defining our very identity through someone else's labor and borrowed money.

I mean, how is the bank even to blame here?
Chris Stewart3 Chris Stewart3 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Jul 2009
#19 ·
briskdriver110 said:I mean, how is the bank even to blame here?

The reality is that banks essentially incentivize us to spend money we simply haven't earned yet, creating this endless cycle of debt just so they can pad their bottom lines. It’s quite calculated, really; they constantly push credit cards and personal loans through aggressive, highly polished advertising campaigns designed to make borrowing feel like a necessity rather than a trap.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
529 messages
joined Jul 2010
#20 ·
Where’d you hear that? I have a credit card, but honestly, I've never actually used it for a loan in my life. I usually just opt for zero-interest installment plans—not because I'm strapped for cash, but simply because why wouldn't I? I'd rather park that money in a money market account and grab a little bit of interest. It’s not a fortune, but it’s nice to see it grow. 🙂

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