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Why do women recognize male faces faster?

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redharbor9 redharbor9 RegularOP
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#41 ·
Sandra Parker3 said:You're missing the point

I know exactly what "people" implies, but you're still only talking about women
I don't get why this isn't clicking for you 🤷

If women recognize male faces faster than men do, fine, that's settled

But what about the guys? Or put another way, how do they handle recognizing female faces? For crying out loud, am I the only one seeing this???

edit:
(from the post below)

🙏

Yeah, typical. You're always the only one who sees things...

Nah, women don't recognize male faces faster than men, they just recognize them faster than male faces do...

Picture this being face recognition time... (these aren't actual stats, I'm just making a point so colour gets it)

Women spot a male face in 0.2 msec
Women spot a female face in 0.5 msec
Men spot a male face in 0.5 msec
Men spot a female face in 0.5 msec

Clear enough now? :histerija:
darkmarlin4 darkmarlin4 Newcomer
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#42 ·
Yeah, that’s pretty much how I landed on that conclusion too. Honestly, I feel like I read something totally different ages ago, but my memory is a total blank on it now 🤷 I really hope someone can jump in and help you out so you can find an explanation that isn't based on evolution 🙂
EDIT: This was actually supposed to go before those fake results I posted 😂
Keith Jones76 Keith Jones76 Active Member
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#43 ·
I was thinking about how men tend to have more prominent brow ridges, stronger jaw muscles, and more squared-off jawlines. Even the angle between the nose and the forehead, or the shape of the upper lip, tends to differ—not to mention facial hair, which isn't a negligible factor. (I recall a study suggesting that men with these more pronounced masculine traits were more frequently found in leadership roles and saw faster advancement, like moving up the ranks in the US Army. One theory was that this plays into how men perceive dominance among themselves. It might not be directly linked to our topic, but it shows these features carry weight.)
0>> 0>>As for beards, just because a specific experiment didn't find a link doesn't mean women aren't looking for them. In fact, a beard might actually be one of those evolutionary drivers that conditioned women to be more sensitive to detecting these specific physical characteristics.
0>> 0>>Maybe it’s getting complicated. Think of it this way: throughout human history, there was far more hunger than plenty. Because of that, we evolved to favor satiety over enduring starvation (which explains why everyone struggles with dieting). Even now, when food scarcity isn't an actual threat, that instinct to seek out heavy, sugary, calorie-dense foods remains—even if it leads to obesity.
0>> 0>>In the same vein, women likely still read these cues from faces. Even if the amount of vital information we need to process has decreased, the conditioning remains. We've only had culture for a relatively tiny sliver of our evolutionary timeline—maybe 70,000 years—which might have influenced things slightly, but the biological groundwork is deep.
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0>> 0>>It would be interesting to see if those same differences show up in children's faces.
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Sandra Parker3 Sandra Parker3 Regular
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#44 ·
redharbor9 said:Yeah, typical. You're always the only one who sees things...

Nah, women don't recognize male faces faster than men, they just recognize them faster than male faces do...

Picture this being face recognition time... (these aren't actual stats, I'm just making a point so colour gets it)

Women spot a male face in 0.2 msec
Women spot a female face in 0.5 msec
Men spot a male face in 0.5 msec
Men spot a female face in 0.5 msec

Clear enough now? :histerija:

yeah, you're just such a sweetheart, as usual 🙄 🙂

Sacreus, there's really no need to go into hysterics; you've explained what everyone else already knew, they just didn't bother asking, okay?

And I actually edited my previous post to thank you 🙏 for those male statistics (without the ms), which you're only mentioning here for the first time

No, women don't recognize male faces faster than men; they just recognize female faces faster than male ones...

and faster than men, at least based on the examples you gave me to help me understand 😁
Keith Jones76 Keith Jones76 Active Member
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#45 ·
Hey, what’s the deal with those kids' faces? You didn't get back to me.
Sandra Parker3 Sandra Parker3 Regular
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#46 ·
Sacreus said:Of course I'm being hysterical; I've got this conditioned reaction to you stemming from some old argument ages ago that I can't even fully recall because I've pushed it out of my mind... 😍

Look, you should probably know by now that suppressing things doesn't work—it just leads to overreacting like I'm doing right now. 😁

I see you still have questions... do you want me to solve the whole mystery for you, or are we done? 😉
redharbor9 redharbor9 RegularOP
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#47 ·
Keith Jones76 said:I was thinking about how men tend to have more prominent brow ridges, stronger jaw muscles, and more squared-off jawlines. Even the angle between the nose and the forehead, or the shape of the upper lip, tends to differ—not to mention facial hair, which isn't a negligible factor. (I recall a study suggesting that men with these more pronounced masculine traits were more frequently found in leadership roles and saw faster advancement, like moving up the ranks in the US Army. One theory was that this plays into how men perceive dominance among themselves. It might not be directly linked to our topic, but it shows these features carry weight.)
0>> 0>>As for beards, just because a specific experiment didn't find a link doesn't mean women aren't looking for them. In fact, a beard might actually be one of those evolutionary drivers that conditioned women to be more sensitive to detecting these specific physical characteristics.
0>> 0>>Maybe it’s getting complicated. Think of it this way: throughout human history, there was far more hunger than plenty. Because of that, we evolved to favor satiety over enduring starvation (which explains why everyone struggles with dieting). Even now, when food scarcity isn't an actual threat, that instinct to seek out heavy, sugary, calorie-dense foods remains—even if it leads to obesity.
0>> 0>>In the same vein, women likely still read these cues from faces. Even if the amount of vital information we need to process has decreased, the conditioning remains. We've only had culture for a relatively tiny sliver of our evolutionary timeline—maybe 70,000 years—which might have influenced things slightly, but the biological groundwork is deep.
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0>> 0>>It would be interesting to see if those same differences show up in children's faces.
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Interesting... what medical field covers this? Where do I even look for this stuff? 😁

Quincy:
It would be cool to see if these same differences show up on kids' faces.
Can't find anything in the notes... I'll dig through some articles, but there are a few massive textbooks out there... certain "unusual" effects exist, but I can't recall the specifics... I don't think it's been replicated in this context, but there are definitely unexpected results with kids' faces... and face memory.
Keith Jones76 Keith Jones76 Active Member
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#48 ·
It touches on several different areas... if we’re being descriptive, you could call it anatomy. I'm pretty sure we're talking about tertiary sexual characteristics here.

This might be a bit of a tangent (maybe it isn't, but certainly not directly), but I have a feeling prosopagnosia is more common in women.

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