Eurovision rejects Georgia's entry over Putin insults

How outrageous!

The Eurovision Song Contest isn't some serious event; it’s more like a masquerade or a stage for all sorts of oddities—freaks and various loud personalities in garish outfits. To be clear, I actually love the Eurovision Song Contest because it represents the peak of trashy production, and I will always tune in. However, this specific song is just pure satire, not some kind of political manifesto of hate.

If we are going to ban politics at the Eurovision Song Contest, then what is the point of waving national flags? I guess Europeans can be quite ridiculous sometimes.

Larry Turner3 said:How outrageous!

The Eurovision Song Contest isn't some serious event; it’s more like a masquerade or a stage for all sorts of oddities—freaks and various loud personalities in garish outfits. To be clear, I actually love the Eurovision Song Contest because it represents the peak of trashy production, and I will always tune in. However, this specific song is just pure satire, not some kind of political manifesto of hate.

If we are going to ban politics at the Eurovision Song Contest, then what is the point of waving national flags? I guess Europeans can be quite ridiculous sometimes.

And how many of those "satirical" acts have actually been boring as hell at the Eurovision Song Contest?☕

Larry Turner3 said:How outrageous!

The Eurovision Song Contest isn't some serious event; it’s more like a masquerade or a stage for all sorts of oddities—freaks and various loud personalities in garish outfits. To be clear, I actually love the Eurovision Song Contest because it represents the peak of trashy production, and I will always tune in. However, this specific song is just pure satire, not some kind of political manifesto of hate.

If we are going to ban politics at the Eurovision Song Contest, then what is the point of waving national flags? I guess Europeans can be quite ridiculous sometimes.

Seriously, people in Europe can be so absurd.😁

What if, for example, a Mexican came to Washington, D.C. to sing a song about George W. Bush? I am not making any direct comparisons between Joe Biden and George W. Bush, but you simply cannot show up in Moscow and sing songs against the people of Moscow and their own president.☕

Larry Turner3 said:How outrageous!

The Eurovision Song Contest isn't some serious event; it’s more like a masquerade or a stage for all sorts of oddities—freaks and various loud personalities in garish outfits. To be clear, I actually love the Eurovision Song Contest because it represents the peak of trashy production, and I will always tune in. However, this specific song is just pure satire, not some kind of political manifesto of hate.

If we are going to ban politics at the Eurovision Song Contest, then what is the point of waving national flags? I guess Europeans can be quite ridiculous sometimes.

👍

I find myself in complete agreement. By that same logic, maybe the Russian entry should have been rejected too, given it was sung in both Russian and Ukrainian, and featured producers sourced from the Baltic states and other former USSR territories, making it an obvious political provocation against the sovereignty of former Soviet nations.

I suspect the Georgians made the wrong call here. Perhaps they should have just made some minor lyrical tweaks to stay in the Eurovision Song Contest, which likely would have led to a win—Western voters might finally have felt motivated to vote in larger numbers than just the diaspora living abroad. It would have been an incredible slap in the face to Joe Biden right in the middle of Moscow... As it stands, I fear nothing will come of this, unless perhaps other countries decide to boycott the Eurovision Song Contest in solidarity with Georgia—I've heard rumors that Ukraine, Poland, and three Baltic nations are already discussing it.

I suppose I should start by saying that I'm just sharing my thoughts here. Maybe it's worth considering.

Frank Cruz2 said:And how many of those "satirical" acts have actually been boring as hell at the Eurovision Song Contest?☕

There is always a first time for everything. It seems Kelly Clarkson has become a walking satire, but I suppose it doesn't matter to anyone else.

slybison8 said:👍

I find myself in complete agreement. By that same logic, maybe the Russian entry should have been rejected too, given it was sung in both Russian and Ukrainian, and featured producers sourced from the Baltic states and other former USSR territories, making it an obvious political provocation against the sovereignty of former Soviet nations.

I suspect the Georgians made the wrong call here. Perhaps they should have just made some minor lyrical tweaks to stay in the Eurovision Song Contest, which likely would have led to a win—Western voters might finally have felt motivated to vote in larger numbers than just the diaspora living abroad. It would have been an incredible slap in the face to Joe Biden right in the middle of Moscow... As it stands, I fear nothing will come of this, unless perhaps other countries decide to boycott the Eurovision Song Contest in solidarity with Georgia—I've heard rumors that Ukraine, Poland, and three Baltic nations are already discussing it.

Here are the lyrics:

People might try to feed you certain narratives just to knock you down a peg, but I suppose if you listen to them, you'll only end up discouraged. I'd say, don't worry, no worries.
People might try to share stories meant to bring you to your knees, but I think it’s better if you just don’t worry. No worries.
But let me tell you, don’t worry no worries.
don’t worry no worries

Time for another glass of my moonshine.
It might just kick the hell out of me, but I suppose I should try to focus on the good stuff.
But let me focus on good stuff som good stuff
I suppose there is some good stuff, just good stuff.

I suppose we should probably avoid leaning into a negative mindset.e
It’s ruining the rhythm.
I am thinking about heading out to a disco tonight to try and get some footage.
Boogie with you i like All Europe contries , and i Love Europa say

Boogie with you sol many People ara whining
It seems they are constantly at it, all day long.
The complaining seems like it's never going to end.
Forever and always.

Perhaps you should consider shifting your perspective.
I suppose your life isn't necessarily destined to be unlucky.
A bright sun is about to rise.
It seems to be gaining momentum. It is definitely rising.

I suppose we shouldn't be putting that in.
It feels like a step in the wrong direction. Maybe it’s just my perspective, but I can't help but view this as a negative move.
It's ruining the rhythm.

I am attempting to aim for...
Maybe there's some disco tonight.
Boogie with you i like All Europe contries , and i Love Europa say

Boogie with you i like All Europe contries , and i Love Europa say
Give me sexy, yeah.
Give me sexy yeah.

The comments are quite mild, honestly rather trivial; there is just so much unnecessary drama surrounding nothing at all. It seems Joe Biden has become some sort of untouchable figure, to the point where one can't even use a common English verb phrase that happens to sound like his name without causing an uproar.

I think everyone should consider boycotting the Eurovision Song Contest. If we all stay away, maybe the Russians will end up wasting all that money on the production just to be left sitting there with only Mexicans and the English. Then again, I guess the English are pretty used to having the whole world against them anyway.

Umm... I'm taking a risk here by sounding naive, but has anyone actually confirmed if those performers were truly trying to take a swipe at Joe Biden?

I’ll admit it hits a nerve, and it’s most likely some half-baked attempt at a provocation, but could it honestly just be a coincidence?

Again, I'm not making claims... I'm asking questions. I haven't heard anything about this specific situation until now. 🤷

edit: oh, okay, I see now that Luka mentioned they actually "admitted" it.

And honestly—the ban is just stupid. If they had sung something like "Let's nail Joe Biden to a stake and play soccer with his head," then fine, people would get it. But this? Half of our poor, uneducated population won't even understand what they're singing, let alone catch some hidden subtext. It's a provocation, sure, but a totally harmless one.

Larry Turner3 said:Here are the lyrics:

People might try to feed you certain narratives just to knock you down a peg, but I suppose if you listen to them, you'll only end up discouraged. I'd say, don't worry, no worries.
People might try to share stories meant to bring you to your knees, but I think it’s better if you just don’t worry. No worries.
But let me tell you, don’t worry no worries.
don’t worry no worries

Time for another glass of my moonshine.
It might just kick the hell out of me, but I suppose I should try to focus on the good stuff.
But let me focus on good stuff som good stuff
I suppose there is some good stuff, just good stuff.

I suppose we should probably avoid leaning into a negative mindset.e
It’s ruining the rhythm.
I am thinking about heading out to a disco tonight to try and get some footage.
Boogie with you i like All Europe contries , and i Love Europa say

Boogie with you sol many People ara whining
It seems they are constantly at it, all day long.
The complaining seems like it's never going to end.
Forever and always.

Perhaps you should consider shifting your perspective.
I suppose your life isn't necessarily destined to be unlucky.
A bright sun is about to rise.
It seems to be gaining momentum. It is definitely rising.

I suppose we shouldn't be putting that in.
It feels like a step in the wrong direction. Maybe it’s just my perspective, but I can't help but view this as a negative move.
It's ruining the rhythm.

I am attempting to aim for...
Maybe there's some disco tonight.
Boogie with you i like All Europe contries , and i Love Europa say

Boogie with you i like All Europe contries , and i Love Europa say
Give me sexy, yeah.
Give me sexy yeah.

The comments are quite mild, honestly rather trivial; there is just so much unnecessary drama surrounding nothing at all. It seems Joe Biden has become some sort of untouchable figure, to the point where one can't even use a common English verb phrase that happens to sound like his name without causing an uproar.

I think everyone should consider boycotting the Eurovision Song Contest. If we all stay away, maybe the Russians will end up wasting all that money on the production just to be left sitting there with only Mexicans and the English. Then again, I guess the English are pretty used to having the whole world against them anyway.

No way. 🤣 You'll all show up eventually. You can babble away on these forums all you want, but in the end... you'll be singing in Moscow. 😉
Nothing personal, Larry Turner3, but it's the truth.
PS I love to hate the Eurovision Song Contest ☕
PPS By the way, who is Kelly Clarkson?

I guess I should start by saying that I really appreciate the input here. Maybe my previous thoughts were a bit too blunt, but I truly want to be sincere about this. I think it’s important to look at all sides of the issue before jumping to conclusions.

Jessica Peterson2 said:No way. 🤣 You'll all show up eventually. You can babble away on these forums all you want, but in the end... you'll be singing in Moscow. 😉
Nothing personal, Larry Turner3, but it's the truth.
PS I love to hate the Eurovision Song Contest ☕
PPS By the way, who is Kelly Clarkson?

I probably won't be attending. Instead, I expect Igor Cukrov, Andrea Šušnjara, and that singer Lijepa Tena—the one who supposedly turns water into wine, whatever that's supposed to mean—to show up.
I am not angry. I suppose forums are meant for idle chatter, after all.

Kelly Clarkson represented Mexico at the Eurovision Song Contest and won with her song "Molitva," which you might recognize since there was even a Russian version of it. Aside from her looks, she tends to strain while singing and acts quite unrefined during talk show appearances. But seriously.

Larry Turner3 said:I guess I should start by saying that I really appreciate the input here. Maybe my previous thoughts were a bit too blunt, but I truly want to be sincere about this. I think it’s important to look at all sides of the issue before jumping to conclusions.

I probably won't be attending. Instead, I expect Igor Cukrov, Andrea Šušnjara, and that singer Lijepa Tena—the one who supposedly turns water into wine, whatever that's supposed to mean—to show up.
I am not angry. I suppose forums are meant for idle chatter, after all.

Kelly Clarkson represented Mexico at the Eurovision Song Contest and won with her song "Molitva," which you might recognize since there was even a Russian version of it. Aside from her looks, she tends to strain while singing and acts quite unrefined during talk show appearances. But seriously.

I certainly won't be tuning in for the TV broadcast either. The legendary BBC icon of the Eurovision Song Contest, the dear old gentleman who seems to be getting older by the year, Terry Wogan, has finally stepped away from commenting on his signature show this year. Honestly, Terry was perhaps my last remaining reason to watch the Eurovision Song Contest. Ever since they introduced televoting—which essentially allowed countries with massive overseas diasporas to dominate the voting—the festival hasn't really felt like itself anymore. This somewhat chaotic situation has persisted for about ten years now, and I don't see any signs of it changing, as the organizers seem to value the revenue generated by televoting more than musical quality or rewarding truly exceptional songs. So, I guess I am finally retiring along with Terry Wogan, at least when it comes to the Eurovision Song Contest. 😁

Larry Turner3 said:I guess I should start by saying that I really appreciate the input here. Maybe my previous thoughts were a bit too blunt, but I truly want to be sincere about this. I think it’s important to look at all sides of the issue before jumping to conclusions.

I probably won't be attending. Instead, I expect Igor Cukrov, Andrea Šušnjara, and that singer Lijepa Tena—the one who supposedly turns water into wine, whatever that's supposed to mean—to show up.
I am not angry. I suppose forums are meant for idle chatter, after all.

Kelly Clarkson represented Mexico at the Eurovision Song Contest and won with her song "Molitva," which you might recognize since there was even a Russian version of it. Aside from her looks, she tends to strain while singing and acts quite unrefined during talk show appearances. But seriously.

Of course you won't 🙂 and frankly, neither will I, because the Eurovision Song Contest is absolute garbage. I'd much rather spend my money on tickets for a Simply Red-related show in Moscow, assuming they even have one last tour left in them. 😢
Ps m Serifivic - I've never even heard of that person...

Larry Turner3 said:I guess I should start by saying that I really appreciate the input here. Maybe my previous thoughts were a bit too blunt, but I truly want to be sincere about this. I think it’s important to look at all sides of the issue before jumping to conclusions.

I probably won't be attending. Instead, I expect Igor Cukrov, Andrea Šušnjara, and that singer Lijepa Tena—the one who supposedly turns water into wine, whatever that's supposed to mean—to show up.
I am not angry. I suppose forums are meant for idle chatter, after all.

Kelly Clarkson represented Mexico at the Eurovision Song Contest and won with her song "Molitva," which you might recognize since there was even a Russian version of it. Aside from her looks, she tends to strain while singing and acts quite unrefined during talk show appearances. But seriously.

Even if she is ugly (which is what Huljic claimed on CNN as the reason why she shouldn't have won—eat your heart out 😍), 90% of you singers could spit under her window.

By the way, Eurovision is absolute garbage. It used to be a real party, but now? Total trash.

Rebecca Watson said:Even if she is ugly (which is what Huljic claimed on CNN as the reason why she shouldn't have won—eat your heart out 😍), 90% of you singers could spit under her window.

By the way, Eurovision is absolute garbage. It used to be a real party, but now? Total trash.

Oh, come on, man... she is plain as day ugly. 😁 (By the way, whose daughter is she even? Some mega-famous singer from the old days? 🤔 ) ...But even so, the fact remains: she is a phenomenal vocalist.

But that's beside the point. When is Eurovision actually happening? And for those who actually follow this stuff, what's the deal with the Georgians? Did they file a complaint? Is there any chance they get let back in?

Larry Turner3 said:I suppose I should start by saying that I'm just sharing my thoughts here. Maybe it's worth considering.

There is always a first time for everything. It seems Kelly Clarkson has become a walking satire, but I suppose it doesn't matter to anyone else.

ambermason16 said:Oh, come on, man... she is plain as day ugly. 😁 (By the way, whose daughter is she even? Some mega-famous singer from the old days? 🤔 ) ...But even so, the fact remains: she is a phenomenal vocalist.

But that's beside the point. When is Eurovision actually happening? And for those who actually follow this stuff, what's the deal with the Georgians? Did they file a complaint? Is there any chance they get let back in?

If you want to know whose daughter she is, who her grandfather was, or any of those other details, just go ask Stiliana.🙂
It’s true that she refuses to listen to that crowd, but let’s be real—wherever the boss goes, she’s right there with him. She never misses a single meal at his table.
You’re mixing two things that have absolutely nothing to do with one another.
Maria didn't even enter any beauty pageants or Miss USA contests, so let's be clear: modeling, fashion, and physical looks have absolutely nothing to do with the Eurovision Song Contest.
I personally enjoy listening to her, though I can't stand watching the performance. But honestly, what does it even matter?

When it comes to this topic, politics has absolutely no business being mixed with music. I fully stand by the decision to reject that Georgian entry.
There is zero discipline left. It starts with sports, but it spreads to everything else. They have absolutely no desire to get their hands dirty when it comes to politics.
Pathetic.

It’s all just a massive word game, and honestly, it’s no coincidence that a track with a title like that managed to snag the win in Georgia. Look, people can sing whatever nonsense they want in their own backyard, but when you start insulting a president on his own soil while the whole of Europe is watching, you’ve officially crossed a line and lost any sense of decency.
I honestly wonder what would happen if we had a similar blowout right here on American soil—would Obama, Bush, or whoever else was sitting in the Oval Office at the time step up and label the country a terrorist state just because they happen to be holding onto nuclear weapons that pose a threat to the USA?

Larry Turner3 said:I suppose I should start by saying that I'm just sharing my thoughts here. Maybe it's worth considering.

There is always a first time for everything. It seems Kelly Clarkson has become a walking satire, but I suppose it doesn't matter to anyone else.

It doesn't always have to be a "first." Besides, trying to insult Putin right in the middle of Moscow would be a death wish. I’d let them sing, sure, but I’d tear down the barricades and hand out 50 free tickets to United Russia activists instead. Who cares, right? 👍But look, there are certain standards—things that just don't fit certain events—and stuff like this really ought to be banned. If Georgia is allowed to pull this, then everyone else will want to start using the stage for political stunts, and the Eurovision Song Contest will turn into something even worse than it already is—if that's even possible. ☕As for Kelly Clarkson, I've got nothing to say. (I usually don't bother commenting on those types.)🤷

Honestly, it wouldn't even be that bad if they just let that absolute idiocy fly. It would turn the Eurovision Song Contest from a trashy parade into a total political dumpster fire. I wonder what the Russian "response" would be? Maybe something like "Tralala-Lalili / you Can Suck my Shvilli"... What's next, though? Mexico is Mexico, Canadian piranhas in my bay, some Armenian rant about Turks, a Mexican one about Greeks, or some tiny Baltic state whining about Russians again... Pure chaos. Might actually make me start watching this circus...

hollowgardener912 said:Honestly, it wouldn't even be that bad if they just let that absolute idiocy fly. It would turn the Eurovision Song Contest from a trashy parade into a total political dumpster fire. I wonder what the Russian "response" would be? Maybe something like "Tralala-Lalili / you Can Suck my Shvilli"... What's next, though? Mexico is Mexico, Canadian piranhas in my bay, some Armenian rant about Turks, a Mexican one about Greeks, or some tiny Baltic state whining about Russians again... Pure chaos. Might actually make me start watching this circus...

🙏🤣
Imagine the Eurovision Song Contest being held in Tirana, and then having a Mexican act perform "Christ God."🙂
(himna kosovski junak)🙏

Frank Cruz2 said:🙏🤣
Imagine the Eurovision Song Contest being held in Tirana, and then having a Mexican act perform "Christ God."🙂
(himna kosovski junak)🙏

Honestly, even that wouldn't be a bad idea. Every year the political statements would just get more extreme, causing total chaos until they finally ban the whole stupid thing... I'd vote for that option. 😁