What moves would you make? I honestly have no idea.

Sandra Parker3 said:Look, if you want to imply it’s actually the other way around, that's totally fine by me.
I honestly can't even be bothered to comment on all this jumping around nonsense.

Seriously, have you forgotten that I’m completely broke right now, or what?🤔 I honestly can't remember what you were complaining about being "extracted" from last time.

I don't see any point in trying to talk sense into you, since I've already figured out exactly where you stand.
Honestly, I’m just looking to squeeze a little more out of you—sort of like a bit of self-inflicted torture.

And you think it’s just small towns, farming, and cookies? That's all there is to it, huh?

Well, if possible, let's aim for somewhere in Chicago. 🙄🤣

I'm honestly just curious, purely out of interest, what exactly defines a "woman for a serious relationship" in your book?

The fact that you're circling back to attack me again, well, I get it. 🙏

It’s not like I ever claimed an unemployed man is some kind of "dream guy" that some Trump should be funding; I was simply addressing your obsession with the necessity of having a job (which basically means financial independence) specifically when it comes to men
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For your information, very few men dream of a woman whose parents foot the bill for their dates, so naturally, he'll eventually step up and take over that role himself. It's not that they don't exist, but unlike you, I don't view it as "charity"—it's actually quite the opposite
or maybe it is "charity," but directed toward oneself
but hey, you could argue either way, I guess

Once again, you find yourself defending your positions... it seems you're the only one who remembers claiming to be "financially weak." Being vindictive just means you actually are; you proved it yourself. Hardly any man dreams of a woman whose outings are funded by her parents... is that based on personal experience or what???? 😁 Regardless, thanks for the info.

As for relationships, for me, the only serious connection is MARRIAGE.
And regarding trying to convince or dissuade YOU: has it ever occurred to you (independent of your own ego) that the core issue here isn't a philosophical debate on male-female dynamics,but rather the actual life circumstances and specific struggles of another person. ☕

Look, you’ve got massive potential—honestly, just those few sentences you wrote are enough for me to see it. On one hand, you should actually be thankful for the chaos around you; it’s what forces you to step back and figure out who you really are.
On the flip side, you need boundaries. You need them.
There isn't a single person on this planet who can laugh at you. Sometimes we humans get stuck in this delusion where we think we’re way smarter than we actually are. In reality, we’re just a bunch of stubborn idiots convinced we have life figured out.
Go grab some books on "pop psychology" and start reading. Age doesn't matter here—for all I know, I might be talking to a future billionaire.

If you had these built-in defense mechanisms from birth, you wouldn't even be in a position to reflect on yourself or the world around you.
Think about the massive handicap people face when they just drift through life without noticing how their environment is reacting to them. They're just stumbling around blindly...

It’s beautiful, really—I haven't met anyone whose inner strength hasn't completely taken over them.
Plus, let's be real: women tend to look for money or status—that's basically their aphrodisiac. Otherwise, Bebek would never even get a look-in...
Then there's confidence. Once you actually nail that, people swarm you like bees to sugar. Men and women alike. That’s why being strong and knowing how to say "NO" is everything—so many people don't know how to do that, and they'll try to drain your energy. I'm telling you this from experience.

Hannah White2 said:Look, you’ve got massive potential—honestly, just those few sentences you wrote are enough for me to see it. On one hand, you should actually be thankful for the chaos around you; it’s what forces you to step back and figure out who you really are.
On the flip side, you need boundaries. You need them.
There isn't a single person on this planet who can laugh at you. Sometimes we humans get stuck in this delusion where we think we’re way smarter than we actually are. In reality, we’re just a bunch of stubborn idiots convinced we have life figured out.
Go grab some books on "pop psychology" and start reading. Age doesn't matter here—for all I know, I might be talking to a future billionaire.

If you had these built-in defense mechanisms from birth, you wouldn't even be in a position to reflect on yourself or the world around you.
Think about the massive handicap people face when they just drift through life without noticing how their environment is reacting to them. They're just stumbling around blindly...

It’s beautiful, really—I haven't met anyone whose inner strength hasn't completely taken over them.
Plus, let's be real: women tend to look for money or status—that's basically their aphrodisiac. Otherwise, Bebek would never even get a look-in...
Then there's confidence. Once you actually nail that, people swarm you like bees to sugar. Men and women alike. That’s why being strong and knowing how to say "NO" is everything—so many people don't know how to do that, and they'll try to drain your energy. I'm telling you this from experience.

Not all of them, though.

I honestly don't have the energy to deal with this right now. Just another day of nonsense. kaže:
Here we go again, constantly finding ourselves stuck in this loop of having to defend our own positions... honestly, it feels like you’re the only one who actually remembers that comment about being. She’s just financially unstable.Malice is just who you are—you've proven that yourself. Honestly, what man dreams about a woman whose parents are footing the bill for every single date? Is that coming from personal experience or what? 😁 Whatever, thanks for the heads-up.

I'm just laying out the facts here—not making excuses, though I honestly have no clue what you're getting at—but just to give you some general direction.

I’m not being vindictive, I just have a hell of a memory, so don't try to test me. Actually, go ahead and keep doing what you're doing—since you felt the need to add that little "evil" label to my memory, I'm sure you've got your reasons. 🙄

Just a little tip: stop making it all about the person when you disagree. It’s getting pretty ridiculous on this forum lately, and honestly, it just makes you look bad.
No effect at all, kid. 🙄

I honestly don't have much to say about this, but I guess I'll just sit here and watch the whole thing unfold while everyone else loses their minds. kaže:
When it comes to relationships, I don't see the point in anything other than marriage being a serious commitment.
And regarding all this convincing and deconvincing you're doing—did it ever actually cross your mind, independent of your own ego, that you're completely missing the core issue here? A philosophical deep dive into the dynamics between men and women.It all comes down to someone else's specific life circumstances and their own personal struggles. ☕

Man, if you’d just told me upfront that this scrap of paper carried that much weight, I wouldn't be sitting here again. Honestly, you aren't wrong—it really is a serious connection given all the legal red tape involved, but if you ignore everything else, you're basically clueless.

I mean, come on—you aren't exactly going to jump straight into marriage without some actual history first, right?
Either you actually put in the work, or you’re just sitting there waiting for some kind of miracle to happen.

And to wrap this up with you... regarding the topic at hand, you made your point, and I only reacted just enough to address the "issue," because honestly, one shouldn't let themselves get any more worked up by being forced into that outdated gender role where the man is expected to be the sole provider.

Hannah White2 said:Look, you’ve got massive potential—honestly, just those few sentences you wrote are enough for me to see it. On one hand, you should actually be thankful for the chaos around you; it’s what forces you to step back and figure out who you really are.
On the flip side, you need boundaries. You need them.
There isn't a single person on this planet who can laugh at you. Sometimes we humans get stuck in this delusion where we think we’re way smarter than we actually are. In reality, we’re just a bunch of stubborn idiots convinced we have life figured out.
Go grab some books on "pop psychology" and start reading. Age doesn't matter here—for all I know, I might be talking to a future billionaire.

If you had these built-in defense mechanisms from birth, you wouldn't even be in a position to reflect on yourself or the world around you.
Think about the massive handicap people face when they just drift through life without noticing how their environment is reacting to them. They're just stumbling around blindly...

It’s beautiful, really—I haven't met anyone whose inner strength hasn't completely taken over them.
Plus, let's be real: women tend to look for money or status—that's basically their aphrodisiac. Otherwise, Bebek would never even get a look-in...
Then there's confidence. Once you actually nail that, people swarm you like bees to sugar. Men and women alike. That’s why being strong and knowing how to say "NO" is everything—so many people don't know how to do that, and they'll try to drain your energy. I'm telling you this from experience.

Hey Hannah White2, have you ever actually stopped to wonder if all those "Bebeks" out there have anything to offer besides just fame and money?
If you don't agree, then you're basically just being discriminatory—get it? Because by saying that, you're implying that having money is the only thing that actually matters.
I’d say you’re totally missing the forest for the trees here... basically, because of your intense bias against women, you've ended up veering into discriminating against men too—correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to be what's happening.

Sandra Parker3 said:Oh, please, you’re reading all this junk too? People around here are actually pretty sharp.
Honestly, your takes on his original post are way more interesting than the actual post itself. 😉

From him? No, I was responding to Maria Callas, not him.

The way people perceive you is usually just a reflection of how you see yourself.

Sandra Parker3 said:

I honestly don't have the energy to deal with this right now. Just another day of nonsense. kaže:
Here we go again, constantly finding ourselves stuck in this loop of having to defend our own positions... honestly, it feels like you’re the only one who actually remembers that comment about being. She’s just financially unstable.Malice is just who you are—you've proven that yourself. Honestly, what man dreams about a woman whose parents are footing the bill for every single date? Is that coming from personal experience or what? 😁 Whatever, thanks for the heads-up.

I'm just laying out the facts here—not making excuses, though I honestly have no clue what you're getting at—but just to give you some general direction.

I’m not being vindictive, I just have a hell of a memory, so don't try to test me. Actually, go ahead and keep doing what you're doing—since you felt the need to add that little "evil" label to my memory, I'm sure you've got your reasons. 🙄

Just a little tip: stop making it all about the person when you disagree. It’s getting pretty ridiculous on this forum lately, and honestly, it just makes you look bad.
No effect at all, kid. 🙄

I honestly don't have much to say about this, but I guess I'll just sit here and watch the whole thing unfold while everyone else loses their minds. kaže:
When it comes to relationships, I don't see the point in anything other than marriage being a serious commitment.
And regarding all this convincing and deconvincing you're doing—did it ever actually cross your mind, independent of your own ego, that you're completely missing the core issue here? A philosophical deep dive into the dynamics between men and women.It all comes down to someone else's specific life circumstances and their own personal struggles. ☕

Man, if you’d just told me upfront that this scrap of paper carried that much weight, I wouldn't be sitting here again. Honestly, you aren't wrong—it really is a serious connection given all the legal red tape involved, but if you ignore everything else, you're basically clueless.

I mean, come on—you aren't exactly going to jump straight into marriage without some actual history first, right?
Either you actually put in the work, or you’re just sitting there waiting for some kind of miracle to happen.

And to wrap this up with you... regarding the topic at hand, you made your point, and I only reacted just enough to address the "issue," because honestly, one shouldn't let themselves get any more worked up by being forced into that outdated gender role where the man is expected to be the sole provider.

Hey Hannah White2, have you ever actually stopped to wonder if all those "Bebeks" out there have anything to offer besides just fame and money?
If you don't agree, then you're basically just being discriminatory—get it? Because by saying that, you're implying that having money is the only thing that actually matters.
I’d say you’re totally missing the forest for the trees here... basically, because of your intense bias against women, you've ended up veering into discriminating against men too—correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to be what's happening.

I honestly think you're being ridiculous... ☕
Is this constant irritability a regular thing for you, or does it only happen when you fail to dominate a conversation? Or maybe it's just PMS?
🤔

Look, let’s keep this short and sweet: just sit down and ask yourself one damn question: What the hell do you actually want out of life? Once you finally figure out what your priorities are, then—and only then—can you actually start putting in the work to improve yourself. I know plenty of guys who don't look like they stepped off a runway, but they're constantly surrounded by incredible women and have their lives totally dialed in because they carry themselves with actual charisma. It’s not about obsessing over your reflection; women gravitate toward initiative, toward a guy who takes charge and actually has his act together, someone building a real life. Beyond that, you’ve got to start standing up for yourself. If someone comes at you with a comment, handle it properly—sometimes you might even need to get physical to show you aren't some pushover. And for God's sake, find a job. If you have to pack up and move to a place like Chicago or Austin to find something in your field where there's actual room to climb the corporate ladder, do it. In the eyes of most women, having that upward mobility makes you infinitely more valuable, and isn't that exactly what you're aiming for? Increase your value. Get out of the house, socialize more, stay informed about what's going on in the world. Don't be some loser sitting in your room all day; get out to the local spots, grab a coffee, be part of the world. Hopefully, that gives you something to chew on.

Adam Miller46 said:I honestly think you're being ridiculous... ☕
Is this constant irritability a regular thing for you, or does it only happen when you fail to dominate a conversation? Or maybe it's just PMS?
🤔

I said the process was ridiculous, not you.
(Though clearly, I'm still stuck talking about myself instead of sticking to the topic)

Anyway, whenever someone gives me a "general" quote like that, I always make sure to fact-check how accurate they actually are.

You wouldn't believe it until you try 😁 🙄it
yourself.