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Nicholas Edwards10 Nicholas Edwards10 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2008
#1 ·
I’m turning to you guys because I honestly don't know what to do... I need some advice.

My kid is in second grade, and he came home from school way earlier than usual today. At first, he claimed his stomach was hurting, but then he changed his story—said it wasn't his stomach, but his leg, because he tripped in the playground. Then, just when I thought we had it figured out, he switches it again, saying he didn't even fall at school, he just hurt himself playing soccer yesterday...
He finally admitted the truth: none of that was real. He just couldn't handle being in class because he's terrified of the kid sitting next to him.😢

Allegedly, this little guy acts like the boss of the classroom. He constantly picks on my son, and the other kids usually jump right in to join the teasing. There hasn't been any actual physical fighting yet, but if my son doesn't do things exactly how this kid wants them done, he gets threatened with being hit and all that kind of stuff...

What do you think is the smartest move here? I'm really worried about him.😢
mistymaker842 mistymaker842 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2009
#2 ·
Man, I swear it feels like it just happened yesterday.
Back in middle school, I ran into some trouble and ended up taking a year off. When I finally went back the following year, I rejoined my old grade. You know how it is—there’s always those total jerks who will sniff out any little thing about you just to make fun of it and be obnoxious... honestly, they're basically the bullies of the playground. At first, it really got under my skin and messed with my head, but eventually, it stopped bothering me so much because I just learned how to hold my own and defend myself.

I don't really have some profound, life-changing piece of advice to give you, but maybe just being there to offer support at home is enough. Honestly, I think going into the school and trying to hash things out with the teachers or whatever else is probably the absolute worst move you could make.
driftingbear20 driftingbear20 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Feb 2009
#3 ·
mistymaker842 said:Man, I swear it feels like it just happened yesterday.
Back in middle school, I ran into some trouble and ended up taking a year off. When I finally went back the following year, I rejoined my old grade. You know how it is—there’s always those total jerks who will sniff out any little thing about you just to make fun of it and be obnoxious... honestly, they're basically the bullies of the playground. At first, it really got under my skin and messed with my head, but eventually, it stopped bothering me so much because I just learned how to hold my own and defend myself.

I don't really have some profound, life-changing piece of advice to give you, but maybe just being there to offer support at home is enough. Honestly, I think going into the school and trying to hash things out with the teachers or whatever else is probably the absolute worst move you could make.

Why is that?
Well, I honestly feel like it all comes down to the specific teacher in charge. If you happen to have a decent, reasonable person running the classroom, those bullies usually get sorted out pretty quickly.
The best move is for the teacher to announce they’re reshuffling the whole seating chart—so no one feels singled out—and then seat your little one next to someone new, while moving the ringleader next to someone they wouldn't dare mess with, like the most popular kid in class.
Your child will likely make a new friend almost immediately by sitting next to them, which helps them step away from the drama, and maybe the teacher can just keep a closer eye on things during recess for a little while to be safe.
William Turner90 William Turner90 Member
12 messages
joined Feb 2009
#4 ·
mistymaker842 said:Man, I swear it feels like it just happened yesterday.
Back in middle school, I ran into some trouble and ended up taking a year off. When I finally went back the following year, I rejoined my old grade. You know how it is—there’s always those total jerks who will sniff out any little thing about you just to make fun of it and be obnoxious... honestly, they're basically the bullies of the playground. At first, it really got under my skin and messed with my head, but eventually, it stopped bothering me so much because I just learned how to hold my own and defend myself.

I don't really have some profound, life-changing piece of advice to give you, but maybe just being there to offer support at home is enough. Honestly, I think going into the school and trying to hash things out with the teachers or whatever else is probably the absolute worst move you could make.

Why would that be the worst thing? To me, it’s the only way forward. You need to sit down with a teacher who can then loop the parents in about the kid who’s been terrorizing everyone else since elementary school.
redranger2 redranger2 Active Member
248 messages
joined Aug 2008
#5 ·
Nicholas Edwards10 said:I’m turning to you guys because I honestly don't know what to do... I need some advice.

My kid is in second grade, and he came home from school way earlier than usual today. At first, he claimed his stomach was hurting, but then he changed his story—said it wasn't his stomach, but his leg, because he tripped in the playground. Then, just when I thought we had it figured out, he switches it again, saying he didn't even fall at school, he just hurt himself playing soccer yesterday...
He finally admitted the truth: none of that was real. He just couldn't handle being in class because he's terrified of the kid sitting next to him.😢

Allegedly, this little guy acts like the boss of the classroom. He constantly picks on my son, and the other kids usually jump right in to join the teasing. There hasn't been any actual physical fighting yet, but if my son doesn't do things exactly how this kid wants them done, he gets threatened with being hit and all that kind of stuff...

What do you think is the smartest move here? I'm really worried about him.😢

I went through this exact same thing with my son—and frankly, I dealt with it myself as well—though my situation was perhaps even more severe than yours. You need to schedule a meeting with the teacher and the school counselor, and you should also reach out to the parents of the child who is targeting yours. When parents unite, they can achieve far more than they could alone.
Do not let this slide without intervening, because your child is suffering, and allowing this behavior to continue will inevitably damage his self-confidence as he grows up.
Rebecca Scott3 Rebecca Scott3 Active Member
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joined Jan 2009
#6 ·
driftingbear20 said:Why is that?
Well, I honestly feel like it all comes down to the specific teacher in charge. If you happen to have a decent, reasonable person running the classroom, those bullies usually get sorted out pretty quickly.
The best move is for the teacher to announce they’re reshuffling the whole seating chart—so no one feels singled out—and then seat your little one next to someone new, while moving the ringleader next to someone they wouldn't dare mess with, like the most popular kid in class.
Your child will likely make a new friend almost immediately by sitting next to them, which helps them step away from the drama, and maybe the teacher can just keep a closer eye on things during recess for a little while to be safe.

👍

That’s a solid point..... teachers and schools have a responsibility to fix this stuff...... and it isn't a small issue; it can leave lasting scars.....
.... every single kid deserves to feel safe at school, to feel accepted, and to be encouraged in their learning and growth... plus, they have the right to socialize and learn how to behave properly (without picking on others) .......
Nicholas Edwards10 Nicholas Edwards10 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2008
#7 ·
I think I’m heading straight to the front office tomorrow to talk to his teacher. I’m hoping she’s got some common sense about this. I’ll tell her to move their seats, but I really don't want her making a scene or letting the kids know I’m the one who complained. I just want her to andhandle things discreetly...

Anyway, what am I supposed to tell my son? How should he handle it if that little brat starts mocking him again 😕

Do I tell him to report it to the teacher, just ignore the kid, or actually stand his ground???
William Turner90 William Turner90 Member
12 messages
joined Feb 2009
#8 ·
Nicholas Edwards10 said:I think I’m heading straight to the front office tomorrow to talk to his teacher. I’m hoping she’s got some common sense about this. I’ll tell her to move their seats, but I really don't want her making a scene or letting the kids know I’m the one who complained. I just want her to andhandle things discreetly...

Anyway, what am I supposed to tell my son? How should he handle it if that little brat starts mocking him again 😕

Do I tell him to report it to the teacher, just ignore the kid, or actually stand his ground???

If he reports it, he’s labeled a snitch. If he fights back, things could escalate badly. In my experience, when I dealt with bullies, ignoring them was the way to go 😁. Once a pest realizes they aren't getting a reaction, they usually just give up.
redranger2 redranger2 Active Member
248 messages
joined Aug 2008
#9 ·
Nicholas Edwards10 said:I think I’m heading straight to the front office tomorrow to talk to his teacher. I’m hoping she’s got some common sense about this. I’ll tell her to move their seats, but I really don't want her making a scene or letting the kids know I’m the one who complained. I just want her to andhandle things discreetly...

Anyway, what am I supposed to tell my son? How should he handle it if that little brat starts mocking him again 😕

Do I tell him to report it to the teacher, just ignore the kid, or actually stand his ground???

"Understanding" isn't really the issue here; the teacher needs to take immediate action and separate those kids. Don't lose sleep over how the teacher might react—this is about your child, who has an absolute right to peace in the classroom rather than being harassed by someone already displaying deviant behavior. You need to demand a conversation with that child's parents, because this shouldn't be treated as your private struggle, but rather as their primary responsibility.
redranger2 redranger2 Active Member
248 messages
joined Aug 2008
#10 ·
William Turner90 said:If he reports it, he’s labeled a snitch. If he fights back, things could escalate badly. In my experience, when I dealt with bullies, ignoring them was the way to go 😁. Once a pest realizes they aren't getting a reaction, they usually just give up.

Ignoring the situation isn't a solution, because the small-time bullies will just keep going. This needs to be shut down now, while we're still talking about a second grader. By then, it'll be too late. They are still very young, and this is precisely the moment when boundaries need to be established.
mistymaker842 mistymaker842 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Feb 2009
#11 ·
William Turner90 said:If he reports it, he’s labeled a snitch. If he fights back, things could escalate badly. In my experience, when I dealt with bullies, ignoring them was the way to go 😁. Once a pest realizes they aren't getting a reaction, they usually just give up.

I really think that's the best way to handle it. Not gonna lie, I definitely struggled with some insecurities because of being mocked back then, and those feelings stuck around for a while, but once I finally mastered the art of just ignoring the noise—and learned how to shut them down with a little bit of clever, subtle wit—the teasing totally stopped.
William Turner90 William Turner90 Member
12 messages
joined Feb 2009
#12 ·
redranger2 said:Ignoring the situation isn't a solution, because the small-time bullies will just keep going. This needs to be shut down now, while we're still talking about a second grader. By then, it'll be too late. They are still very young, and this is precisely the moment when boundaries need to be established.

But what can a second grader actually do differently? They might get upset or try to fight back. At this age, the only real solution is for parents and teachers to step in with some solid guidance. These kids are simply too young to settle disputes through conversation on their own.
Dennis Lewis6 Dennis Lewis6 Member
19 messages
joined Feb 2009
#13 ·
Alright, here’s my take on this—
Go down to the school, find that kid (maybe put a beanie on him first), and give him a little smack on the backside... just kidding.

Seriously though, don't you dare tell a child they have your permission to get their nose broken... things move fast, and once they start, there's no stopping them.
The level of negligence here is insane. You can't just sit there and expect someone to endure being bullied for the rest of their life.
Olivia Rivera77 Olivia Rivera77 Active Member
77 messages
joined Nov 2008
#14 ·
William Turner90 said:If he reports it, he’s labeled a snitch. If he fights back, things could escalate badly. In my experience, when I dealt with bullies, ignoring them was the way to go 😁. Once a pest realizes they aren't getting a reaction, they usually just give up.

So what if I end up looking like a total killjoy? Honestly, I’d go to bat for my kid every single time, no questions asked. It actually hurts my soul thinking about how people might judge me for it... like, who cares what they think?
Olivia Rivera77 Olivia Rivera77 Active Member
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joined Nov 2008
#15 ·
Dennis Lewis6 said:Alright, here’s my take on this—
Go down to the school, find that kid (maybe put a beanie on him first), and give him a little smack on the backside... just kidding.

Seriously though, don't you dare tell a child they have your permission to get their nose broken... things move fast, and once they start, there's no stopping them.
The level of negligence here is insane. You can't just sit there and expect someone to endure being bullied for the rest of their life.

I totally agree with the people saying "just be polite, don't fight back, don't respond to anyone..."
Yeah, because if you do that, you basically become an easy target for everyone.
If I actually knew how to just slap someone across the face, my self-esteem wouldn't be as low as it is right now.
William Turner90 William Turner90 Member
12 messages
joined Feb 2009
#16 ·
Olivia Rivera77 said:So what if I end up looking like a total killjoy? Honestly, I’d go to bat for my kid every single time, no questions asked. It actually hurts my soul thinking about how people might judge me for it... like, who cares what they think?

But does it hurt you when your child is judged by others? At the end of the day, the focus is on the kid, not the parents. Of course you'd do anything for your child—that's just instinct—but I don't see violence being the answer here.
Dennis Lewis6 Dennis Lewis6 Member
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#17 ·
William Turner90 said:But does it hurt you when your child is judged by others? At the end of the day, the focus is on the kid, not the parents. Of course you'd do anything for your child—that's just instinct—but I don't see violence being the answer here.

What I did wasn't violence—it was a much-needed reality check.😁
Dennis Lewis6 Dennis Lewis6 Member
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joined Feb 2009
#18 ·
🙂Look, I’m being dead serious here—stop trying to turn the kid into a complete pushover. They need to learn how to push back when things go too far. There’s a limit to how much anyone should have to take before they just say, "Enough is enough."😁
redranger2 redranger2 Active Member
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joined Aug 2008
#19 ·
William Turner90 said:But what can a second grader actually do differently? They might get upset or try to fight back. At this age, the only real solution is for parents and teachers to step in with some solid guidance. These kids are simply too young to settle disputes through conversation on their own.

But isn't that exactly my point?
The solution isn't for them to whine, throw punches, or simply ignore the issue. To suggest otherwise implies children should settle their own disputes while the adults just stand by staring at the clouds. Of course the responsibility lies with the adults to step in and apply proper pedagogical methods to guide them.
Patrick Sullivan3 Patrick Sullivan3 Member
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joined Feb 2007
#20 ·
I’d wait for my little one after school and explain that if they ever laid a finger on another kid, they’d be praying they were never even born... I’d say it with the gentlest smile, though with a total psycho edge behind it 👍

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