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Haider has been killed

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Participants cosmicpuma15Adam Collins4Nicole Barrett76slybison8jadetinker85bluerider63stormygull67hollowmaker85Nancy Wood6Roger Allen2crimsonranger38vividrider3Paul Wells17Donna Thompson2blueotter70Lisa Walker31Linda Howard4Alexander Garcia5Dennis Harris5fadedgardener15Gerald Ward61granitemarlin4
Donna Thompson2 Donna Thompson2 Member
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joined Jan 2008
#21 ·
What kind of conspiracy theory is this? People were right there—eyewitnesses to the whole accident—and besides, everything was thoroughly investigated once the dust settled.
blueotter70 blueotter70 Member
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joined Jul 2008
#22 ·
I don't buy the murder theory. People are way too obsessed with conspiracy theories lately—it feels like every single news story gets labeled one bys some theorist these days. Just chill out... you guys are seriously overreacting.
Lisa Walker31 Lisa Walker31 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#23 ·
bluerider63 said:Even if he was killed, it’s just more proof that the European Union can't stomach anyone with even a hint of neo-fascist or far-right leanings, period.

Ugh... seriously? Give me a break... you actually feel bad for this guy? Honestly, I almost want to go grab some tissues and have a good cry... right after I finish laughing at this wannabe SS officer!
Linda Howard4 Linda Howard4 Newcomer
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#24 ·
bluerider63 said:Even if he was killed, it’s just more proof that the European Union can't stomach anyone with even a hint of neo-fascist or far-right leanings, period.

I'm going to go get myself hurt!☕
Alexander Garcia5 Alexander Garcia5 Member
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joined Nov 2012
#25 ·
Haider basically drank himself to death with vodka. It’s definitely the Russians' fault, I guess. ☕
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active Member
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joined Sep 2009
#26 ·
Alexander Garcia5 said:Haider basically drank himself to death with vodka. It’s definitely the Russians' fault, I guess. ☕

Yeah, or maybe he just overdosed on something else first, right? 😬
Dennis Harris5 Dennis Harris5 Member
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#27 ·
Donna Thompson2 said:What kind of conspiracy theory is this? People were right there—eyewitnesses to the whole accident—and besides, everything was thoroughly investigated once the dust settled.

The driver clipped a tree or a utility pole with the side of the car—that’s always the weakest point of impact. He wasn't even wearing a seatbelt, which is why his arm was practically severed during the crash. To make matters worse, he was driving drunk at over 70 mph in a 30 mph zone. Honestly, given the circumstances, he probably had some oral sex right before getting behind the wheel. At this point, any further debate on the matter feels completely pointless.🤷
fadedgardener15 fadedgardener15 Newcomer
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#28 ·
cosmicpuma15 said:A few months back—I can’t remember the exact date—I was watching German TV when they mentioned how a prominent Austrian politician, Joerg Heider, was planning to call for a referendum on Austria leaving the European Union, fueled by the public's growing frustration with Brussels. Then, just a week later, Heider died in a car crash, allegedly while driving drunk. But everyone who actually knew him? They insisted Heider never touched a drop.
My immediate thought was that Heider was taken out. Why? Because if Austria pulls the plug on the European Union, it sets a precedent that would almost certainly trigger a rapid collapse of that already shaky, centralized dictatorship.
The more I dig into the true nature of the European Union, the more these patterns start making sense. Look at the facts: On November 28, voters in Ireland rejected the Lisbon Treaty in a referendum. Then, on December 6, dioxin was suddenly "discovered" in Irish pork exports. Immediately after? All exports from Ireland were shut down.

And today, I stumbled upon this article:

What’s your take on this?

Look, I’m not exactly a fan of right-wing politics or Heider himself, but even I think this smells fishy. I don't buy for a second that he just drifted off a curve because he had too much to drink.
In my book, it looks like someone tampered with the car's safety tech—you know, the ESP or the brake assist. As for the alcohol tests, there are so many ways to rig that. One possibility is straight-up falsifying the autopsy. Another is that maybe he *was* a little tipsy, but totally capable of driving, yet he couldn't handle the fact that his stability control system had been sabotaged. All they had to do was wait for him to have a drink—or nudge him toward one—and then mess with the electronics. Once the system fails during a turn, it's game over.
I wouldn't jump to blaming Mossad. Honestly? It feels more like something orchestrated by the European Union. If a member state like Austria leaves—especially if Italy follows suit—the whole thing collapses.
Gerald Ward61 Gerald Ward61 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#29 ·
fadedgardener15 said:Look, I’m not exactly a fan of right-wing politics or Heider himself, but even I think this smells fishy. I don't buy for a second that he just drifted off a curve because he had too much to drink.
In my book, it looks like someone tampered with the car's safety tech—you know, the ESP or the brake assist. As for the alcohol tests, there are so many ways to rig that. One possibility is straight-up falsifying the autopsy. Another is that maybe he *was* a little tipsy, but totally capable of driving, yet he couldn't handle the fact that his stability control system had been sabotaged. All they had to do was wait for him to have a drink—or nudge him toward one—and then mess with the electronics. Once the system fails during a turn, it's game over.
I wouldn't jump to blaming Mossad. Honestly? It feels more like something orchestrated by the European Union. If a member state like Austria leaves—especially if Italy follows suit—the whole thing collapses.

Yeah. Though, personally, I think it was way more blunt than that... none of the political smoke and mirrors needed.
It's all about the economy and keeping those "special friendships" alive. That's where the real laws get written and the real verdicts are handed down.
granitemarlin4 granitemarlin4 Member
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joined Nov 2008
#30 ·
Haider was taken out because he posed a massive threat to those neoliberal circles within the ruling elite of the European Union.

Of course, they didn't even let him rest after he was gone—they couldn't risk his ideas gaining any more traction, right? So, they just dumped a mountain of lies about his private life everywhere, hoping to discredit his vision once and for all.

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