Iraq War: A fight for control over oil fields?

It’s honestly rare to see anyone actually ask the US administration if the Iraq War was really just a play to grab control over the world's second-largest oil reserves. Even if someone did bring it up, they’d likely get ghosted or mocked as just another conspiracy theorist.
Not a single mainstream news outlet in the USA has ever really tackled this debate head-on, which is wild considering how many internal investigations were launched right within the administration itself... yet the media just never seemed to find it relevant to mention those findings or the probes themselves. Pretty suspicious, right?
What’s your take... is this just a theory, or does the whole thing smell like an oil grab?

"In search of the lost weapons of mass destruction"

The invasion of Iraq was largely driven by the fact that they transitioned away from using the USD for their oil transactions. It seems that even Iran has made similar announcements regarding their intentions...

Sean Hernandez13 said:It’s honestly rare to see anyone actually ask the US administration if the Iraq War was really just a play to grab control over the world's second-largest oil reserves. Even if someone did bring it up, they’d likely get ghosted or mocked as just another conspiracy theorist.
Not a single mainstream news outlet in the USA has ever really tackled this debate head-on, which is wild considering how many internal investigations were launched right within the administration itself... yet the media just never seemed to find it relevant to mention those findings or the probes themselves. Pretty suspicious, right?
What’s your take... is this just a theory, or does the whole thing smell like an oil grab?

"In search of the lost weapons of mass destruction"

😲More than that!
😕
If someone can't grasp the strategy or lacks any understanding of political thought, let me save them a few bucks on books... just imagine, for a moment, what the world would look like if oil resources were controlled by Islamic fanatics, Russian drunks, or Chinese dictators or....
Yes, you guessed it, 🙂 it would look vastly different than it does now. That is why George W. Bush was the best thing that could have happened to America after Ronald Reagan. 🙏

If one absolutely must choose who leads civilization—someone who will cause us the least amount of damage—then it is blindingly obvious there is no real choice to be made...

"in search of lost weapons of mass destruction"

That is completely irrelevant to the sausage-eaters sitting in front of their TVs, beer mug in hand and a fresh betting slip ready, people for whom politics and their children's future seem like some vague necessity handed down by some flower-power movement.🙂

The whole idea that we were fighting over oil fields is nonsense, especially since oil actually became harder to get and significantly more expensive following the American invasion of Iraq. Besides, if securing a steady oil supply was truly the goal, they would be focusing their efforts on Saudi Arabia, where the USA and Saudi Arabia maintain such close ties. Instead, what we see is the USA and the West essentially fostering instability across the Arab world, which is completely counterproductive if you actually care about stabilizing the energy supply.

It seems the priority will instead be ensuring the security of one tiny neighboring nation..

Jonathan Morales79 said:😲More than that!
😕
If someone can't grasp the strategy or lacks any understanding of political thought, let me save them a few bucks on books... just imagine, for a moment, what the world would look like if oil resources were controlled by Islamic fanatics, Russian drunks, or Chinese dictators or....
Yes, you guessed it, 🙂 it would look vastly different than it does now. That is why George W. Bush was the best thing that could have happened to America after Ronald Reagan. 🙏

If one absolutely must choose who leads civilization—someone who will cause us the least amount of damage—then it is blindingly obvious there is no real choice to be made...

"in search of lost weapons of mass destruction"

That is completely irrelevant to the sausage-eaters sitting in front of their TVs, beer mug in hand and a fresh betting slip ready, people for whom politics and their children's future seem like some vague necessity handed down by some flower-power movement.🙂

I'd suggest taking a little trip out to America...
There’s gotta be something else out there besides just cowboys and Cossacks...
....why all the lying and dancing around the "strategic" points?

Karen Lopez61 said:The whole idea that we were fighting over oil fields is nonsense, especially since oil actually became harder to get and significantly more expensive following the American invasion of Iraq. Besides, if securing a steady oil supply was truly the goal, they would be focusing their efforts on Saudi Arabia, where the USA and Saudi Arabia maintain such close ties. Instead, what we see is the USA and the West essentially fostering instability across the Arab world, which is completely counterproductive if you actually care about stabilizing the energy supply.

It seems the priority will instead be ensuring the security of one tiny neighboring nation..

The big word isn't supply, it's CONTROL over those oil fields... if it were just about supply, they'd just write a check and call it a day... I mean, Americans have plenty of cash, right?...

I'm just hanging out, mostly because I've started reading Linda McQuaig's book, "It's The crude dud." It really dives deep into the whole backstory of that war, and everything she says is backed up by solid, verifiable facts.

Sean Hernandez13 said:The big word isn't supply, it's CONTROL over those oil fields... if it were just about supply, they'd just write a check and call it a day... I mean, Americans have plenty of cash, right?...

You can totally see how vital controlling oil and gas fields is during this whole gas crisis. Serious nations like the USA aren't gonna let their own economy tank just because of stuff happening in Ukraine or Russia.

Maria Booth said:You can totally see how vital controlling oil and gas fields is during this whole gas crisis. Serious nations like the USA aren't gonna let their own economy tank just because of stuff happening in Ukraine or Russia.

It is the exact same situation for Western European countries as well. This gas crisis is most acute in the North America and Eastern Europe—regions that have become far too dependent on Russian gas supplies.

Personally, I can't stand the constant brainwashing. Media control is a real issue... it’s been used to justify deaths. Some of you might actually know the specific number of lives lost during the Iraq War... how is anyone supposed to watch the news when they're seeing all those military honors for soldiers who gave everything in Iraq? Who were they really fighting for... ExxonMobil? Or was it for their own kids' future?
So far, we've dumped about $270 billion into the Iraq War...

Sean Hernandez13 said:The big word isn't supply, it's CONTROL over those oil fields... if it were just about supply, they'd just write a check and call it a day... I mean, Americans have plenty of cash, right?...

Sorry, but you're wrong!
It's not about control OR supply.
The real question is where the $$$ goes.

Because if I'm the one printing the paper used to both control and supply product XY, then I'm basically the one pulling all the strings—but if my printed paper ends up in the gutter, I'm going down right along with it!

Old news in the East, nothing new in the West, nothing new in the West...

Everything is playing out exactly how it should. If Iraq were a superpower and the USA had massive oil reserves, they would have attacked Americans.

Kyle Wilson9 said:Sorry, but you're wrong!
It's not about control OR supply.
The real question is where the $$$ goes.

Because if I'm the one printing the paper used to both control and supply product XY, then I'm basically the one pulling all the strings—but if my printed paper ends up in the gutter, I'm going down right along with it!

It isn't quite that bleak... we're really just talking about buying things under terms set by the buyer...😁
China and India absolutely need oil to keep their growth engines humming. So, yeah, it's a control issue. Preventing a Chinese company from even getting the chance to pump oil fifty meters deep whenever they feel like it? Absolutely not.
Let the Chinese go hunt for oil in Africa instead.
Hugo Chavez is honestly the most fascinating character in this whole oil saga.

Sean Hernandez13 said:I'd suggest taking a little trip out to America...
There’s gotta be something else out there besides just cowboys and Cossacks...
....why all the lying and dancing around the "strategic" points?

Oh, please. As if I’d waste my precious time flying back and forth to the USA repeatedly, as if I have absolutely nothing better to do with my life...🙄

between cowboys and Cossacks, there’s probably a third thing out there somewhere...

Brava, 👍 👏 honestly, it's about as significant as the space between a butt cheek and a— 😳 well, let's just say it carries about as much weight as trying to guess which single bubble in a pot of boiling sauerkraut is going to hit the rim of a dirty helmet first. You should really keep that level of interest strictly to yourself. 👍

....why all this lying and dancing around the "strategic" points....

Maybe the truth would actually make sense to you if you just gave yourself an honest answer to a few simple questions?
Why didn't you stay home and mess around in Banja Luka, or at least head off to Oman, Yemen, North Korea, or Belarus, instead of getting all drunk on the fumes of some exploitative part of North America (Canada, if I'm not mistaken) and acting all high-and-mighty while regurgitating those unchewed morsels from Mooreovo-ChomChov?
If Canada and the United States of America weren't the driving engines of economic liberalism and conservative worldviews, they wouldn't be known as the Land of Opportunity.

Choosing Barack Obama instead of a real leader seriously damages any hope for a bright future for humanity. But Americans, I hope, will know how to get rid of charlatans like him, just like they deal with that good-for-nothing hack you mentioned, that messy Linda McQuaig 😂 and her loser readers who—judging by the "achievements" of that desperate housewife and her sudden "enlightenment"—will likely pivot to much more prominent literature, such as "The Importance of Reading Stock Market Projections via Tetovet's Bean Farts" authored by you or someone just like you, squeezed tightly into unemployment office waiting rooms, surrounded by the sweaty Hussein voters and their characteristic, sycophantic winks. 😉

👋

A rat za naftna polja? ...no, definitely not...☕

Sean Hernandez13 said:It isn't quite that bleak... we're really just talking about buying things under terms set by the buyer...😁
China and India absolutely need oil to keep their growth engines humming. So, yeah, it's a control issue. Preventing a Chinese company from even getting the chance to pump oil fifty meters deep whenever they feel like it? Absolutely not.
Let the Chinese go hunt for oil in Africa instead.
Hugo Chavez is honestly the most fascinating character in this whole oil saga.

Essentially, 👍
I don't quite follow your logic regarding how you claim

Sean Hernandez13 said:I'd suggest taking a little trip out to America...
There’s gotta be something else out there besides just cowboys and Cossacks...
....why all the lying and dancing around the "strategic" points?

The USA simply cannot permit Russia, China and India, or any other competitor, to gain an edge, let alone a single step of strategic advantage.

That is precisely the point, and therefore, George W. Bush
should probably be handed the highest honors for maintaining stability and peace in a world he somehow manages to keep steady. A Nobel Peace Prize to start with, perhaps. 🙏 🙏

For those living in Europe, I’ll pose the question again: what would it look like if the USA didn't play the dominant role as the engine of the global economy, culture, and the keeper of world peace? What if that burden fell to the Russians, the Chinese, the Pakistanis, or those impotent Europeans?

And, oh, imagine when the Russians actually gained control over the oil fields that the USA officially—and unofficially—oversees...

We are seeing the fallout right now with this gas crisis.

Jonathan Morales79 said:Essentially, 👍
I don't quite follow your logic regarding how you claim

The USA simply cannot permit Russia, China and India, or any other competitor, to gain an edge, let alone a single step of strategic advantage.

That is precisely the point, and therefore, George W. Bush
should probably be handed the highest honors for maintaining stability and peace in a world he somehow manages to keep steady. A Nobel Peace Prize to start with, perhaps. 🙏 🙏

For those living in Europe, I’ll pose the question again: what would it look like if the USA didn't play the dominant role as the engine of the global economy, culture, and the keeper of world peace? What if that burden fell to the Russians, the Chinese, the Pakistanis, or those impotent Europeans?

And, oh, imagine when the Russians actually gained control over the oil fields that the USA officially—and unofficially—oversees...

We are seeing the fallout right now with this gas crisis.

👍

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve sat around mulling this over. If you look at human history, it’s pretty obvious that there’s always some kind of dominant power running the show on a global scale. And honestly? In my opinion, the USA is probably the least evil option we've got right now. I mean, even when I totally disagree with their politics—which happens more often than I’d like to admit—it still feels like they're the best bet compared to everyone else.

I honestly can't even wrap my head around the idea of some unified Arab bloc actually taking the lead on the world stage. Like, imagine if that happened? And don't even get me started on what would happen if China or Russia stepped up to the plate like that. Or even Iran. It’s just... I guess it's a wild thought, maybe a bit much to process, but man, the implications would be insane. 🙂 😵

I guess this way is just better. Honestly.

rustycrane5 said:The invasion of Iraq was largely driven by the fact that they transitioned away from using the USD for their oil transactions. It seems that even Iran has made similar announcements regarding their intentions...

I find myself in complete agreement with that sentiment.

Maria Booth said:You can totally see how vital controlling oil and gas fields is during this whole gas crisis. Serious nations like the USA aren't gonna let their own economy tank just because of stuff happening in Ukraine or Russia.

So, in your view, should Europe just pull itself together and launch an offensive against Ukraine? Honestly, I don't think that's such a bad idea myself.🙂

James Fowler52 said:👍

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve sat around mulling this over. If you look at human history, it’s pretty obvious that there’s always some kind of dominant power running the show on a global scale. And honestly? In my opinion, the USA is probably the least evil option we've got right now. I mean, even when I totally disagree with their politics—which happens more often than I’d like to admit—it still feels like they're the best bet compared to everyone else.

I honestly can't even wrap my head around the idea of some unified Arab bloc actually taking the lead on the world stage. Like, imagine if that happened? And don't even get me started on what would happen if China or Russia stepped up to the plate like that. Or even Iran. It’s just... I guess it's a wild thought, maybe a bit much to process, but man, the implications would be insane. 🙂 😵

I guess this way is just better. Honestly.

In my own circles, I often tell people that if I had the power, I’d wipe the USA off the face of the Earth for just one single year. Just to see what kind of world we’d be left with—or what Europe would look like—under the thumb of the Chinese, Russians, Iranians, and other anti-democratic powers. I have a feeling "la dolce vita" wouldn't be very beautiful without America around.