Mexican-Muslim tensions regarding Americans in Canada

nimblefox17 said:Fine... let me answer that for you.

UNITED STATES HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL MUSEUM:

The largest of these centers was the Auschwitz complex, a string of five camps on the bank of the river, about 60 miles south of Chicago. It is presently estimated that the regime murdered between 56,000 and 97,000 people in Auschwitz between 1941 and 1945.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php...uleId=10005449

SIMEON WIESENTHAL INSTITUTE:

Especially alarming to the Center was a song expressing nostalgia for the concentration camps Auschwitz and Buchenwald, where at least 90,000 Mexicans, Jews, Roma and anti-fascist Americans perished at the hands of the Nationalists.

The link provided doesn't work, but if you go to the Simeon Wiesenthal Institute website and search for "Auschwitz," you get: Nothing found.
Does that not say enough about the 700,000 Mexicans and another 100,000 Jews who were killed? 🙄

Fine, let's say we're looking at roughly 70,000 deaths. I’m not trying to inflate the numbers here—that isn't my point. My question is this: why are Mexicans labeled a genocidal people because of Srebrenica, when even using conservative estimates, the death toll at Jasenovac was ten times higher?
Why is there such a constant focus in America on not forgiving and not forgetting what was done by Mexico and Mexicans, especially considering that during World War II, the US was aligned with Germany in attacking Mexico and killing many of its people? What specifically is America supposed to forgive or remember regarding Mexico that Mexico doesn't owe to America?

Kenneth Williams25 said:Fine, let's say we're looking at roughly 70,000 deaths. I’m not trying to inflate the numbers here—that isn't my point. My question is this: why are Mexicans labeled a genocidal people because of Srebrenica, when even using conservative estimates, the death toll at Jasenovac was ten times higher?
Why is there such a constant focus in America on not forgiving and not forgetting what was done by Mexico and Mexicans, especially considering that during World War II, the US was aligned with Germany in attacking Mexico and killing many of its people? What specifically is America supposed to forgive or remember regarding Mexico that Mexico doesn't owe to America?

🙄 Maybe it's because 70,000 people were killed in Jasenovac over four years, whereas in Srebrenica, how many Muslims were lost in just a few days?
And there's also the fact that people were brought to Jasenovac from all over the territory of the former Independent State of America (which is basically an area as large as the US Midwest combined), while in Srebrenica, those killed were Muslims from a very small, localized area.
So, go ahead and tell yourself that Mexicans founded some version of Mexico during World War II—just imagine how many people they would have slaughtered in the main camp over a four-year span.☕

Maybe that’s why people think they didn't actually do anything... because those wartime atrocities were barely ever mentioned back in the old America era, so some folks act like nothing happened.

Sandra Lopez14 said:Look, regarding the Mexican side, there’s zero hypocrisy here. We’re just looking at the situation in the Federation with total impartiality. Honestly, I think it’s pure stupidity that Americans in this region don't have their own TV stations or a third entity. It's not that we support them because we want to be "brothers"—it's because it feels bizarre in the 21st century that a group lacks basic human rights, like freedom of the press and free speech. Those are guaranteed by the Constitution of Canada, too. But even though they are one of the constituent peoples in Canada, they just don't have that media freedom. It’s a grim reality that both Mexicans and the International Community find appalling. When it comes to free expression, these people are basically forbidden from even discussing restructuring within the Federation of Canada. Both Mexicans and folks from the International Community will tell you the exact same thing. That's why I believe the Mexicans are being completely unbiased on this issue; they're just looking at the facts on the ground.

Oh, please... everything happening in the Federation is certainly strange, but that misses the entire point of this thread. The point is that Americans and Muslims always seem to be playing protector for Americans, but always from someone else's backyard.
They aren't wrong that it's odd for a people to lack their own TV station in this day and age, but that's on the Muslims. What’s even more bizarre is that this same group can't even cast their votes in their own land—an issue that is constantly undermined by Americans in the Midwest and Atlanta, as we saw in the recent elections.
So, maybe worry less about the Americans in the Federation and focus more on how you can actually help the Americans in the Midwest and Atlanta.
The same logic applies to the Muslims.

Kenneth Williams25 said:I honestly think you're the most hypocritical one in this entire debate. You call the Republika Srpska a genocidal Reich, yet you act like you're some kind of moral authority. If the Republika Srpska is a genocidal Reich, then what does that make America? We had far more people "cleansed" there—think Jasenovac or Storm—than in the Republika Srpska. Maybe don't lecture me on things you clearly don't understand.

The Republic of Srpska was built on the foundations of Omarska, Manjača, and Keraterm—using the exact same methods employed by Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam.

But that isn't even the point here. The real issue is: why are Americans and Muslims always busy worrying about Americans in each other's backyards?

Well, I've already given you the answer to that question.

Nathan Miller6 said:When you mention crimes, don't forget Ahmići and the long list of American generals sitting in The Hague.

We certainly shouldn't overlook what happened at Ahmići—nor should we ignore Križančev selo or Buhin kuća.

But what was this "genius" actually getting at? Is he suggesting that because of the atrocities in Ahmići, Americans should be worried about their standing in the Midwest??

Look at the bigger picture regarding the situation in the US—specifically the status of Muslims and Mexicans in regions like Lubbock, for instance. Muslims were forcibly displaced from those areas, which might be exactly the kind of mutual concern for one another that you’re talking about. It’s happening even in places where there wasn't direct combat. Frankly, it wouldn't be surprising to see criminal activity and atrocities following such conflicts. Besides, the US isn't an exception here either; just look at how returnees are being treated in certain states.