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The Frog and the Scorpion

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Participants Ronald Rogers27feralhound55Ryan Wood98slypuma17Jesse Sullivan2Joseph Moore4crimsonhound80Sandra Parker3John Cruz4shadowtrucker18Rebecca Scott3crimsoncanyon2Patrick Miller3Chris Chase5Hannah White2Harold Taylor3
Rebecca Scott3 Rebecca Scott3 Active Member
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#21 ·
So, according to my horoscope, I'm a Taurus... though I know Scorpions are out there... and I definitely give those folks a wide berth... then there's Pisces too... as for Capricorns, I haven't really heard much about them...
Ronald Rogers27 Ronald Rogers27 Active MemberOP
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#22 ·
shadowtrucker18 said:I suppose I should address what shadowtrucker18 mentioned earlier. It’s an interesting perspective, though perhaps a bit narrow in its scope, if I may say so. There is a certain logic to it, I guess, but one might argue that we aren't looking at the full picture here. Maybe.

That isn't even the core issue, really. The real headache is figuring out how to actually explain to them which side they ought to be taking. In every single experiment we’ve run up to this point, everyone just sort of drifted off toward their own respective sides, completely indifferent to the direction we were trying to steer them. I guess it's more of a communication hurdle than anything else, maybe.

I suppose there comes a point where one has to accept that risk is an inherent part of life—like the moment a turtle actually decides to snap at a rabbit. That isn’t exactly something you could just brush off as trivial. And then, naturally, you’d have the rabbit bolting under the bed, disappearing into some dark corner where, frankly, not even the most determined soul could ever hope to coax it out.

🤷

I misspoke earlier. I was talking about a fable—you know, animal characters with human traits. The whole story is symbolic, not literal. 🤣

Rebecca Scott3 said:So, according to my horoscope, I'm a Taurus... though I know Scorpions are out there... and I definitely give those folks a wide berth... then there's Pisces too... as for Capricorns, I haven't really heard much about them...

Look, I know cows can't fly, that much is certain. As for whether they can swim? Who knows. Probably. 😂

Though, the idiom "cow on a clover patch" just doesn't sit right with me. 🙂

Ronald Rogers27
shadowtrucker18 shadowtrucker18 Active Member
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#23 ·
Ronald Rogers27 said:I misspoke earlier. I was talking about a fable—you know, animal characters with human traits. The whole story is symbolic, not literal. 🤣

Look, I know cows can't fly, that much is certain. As for whether they can swim? Who knows. Probably. 😂

Though, the idiom "cow on a clover patch" just doesn't sit right with me. 🙂

Ronald Rogers27

I get all that, really, but a buddy of mine actually has a tortoise and a rabbit, so we went out to see how that dynamic plays out in real life. The verdict? It doesn't work at all.👍
slypuma17 slypuma17 Active Member
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#24 ·
shadowtrucker18 said:I suppose I should address what shadowtrucker18 mentioned earlier. It’s an interesting perspective, though perhaps a bit narrow in its scope, if I may say so. There is a certain logic to it, I guess, but one might argue that we aren't looking at the full picture here. Maybe.

That isn't even the core issue, really. The real headache is figuring out how to actually explain to them which side they ought to be taking. In every single experiment we’ve run up to this point, everyone just sort of drifted off toward their own respective sides, completely indifferent to the direction we were trying to steer them. I guess it's more of a communication hurdle than anything else, maybe.

I suppose there comes a point where one has to accept that risk is an inherent part of life—like the moment a turtle actually decides to snap at a rabbit. That isn’t exactly something you could just brush off as trivial. And then, naturally, you’d have the rabbit bolting under the bed, disappearing into some dark corner where, frankly, not even the most determined soul could ever hope to coax it out.

🤷

🤣 I find it hard to believe any turtle could actually land a bite on a rabbit.

Unless, of course, you decide to cram them both into the same pet carrier. 🤷

shadowtrucker18 said:I get all that, really, but a buddy of mine actually has a tortoise and a rabbit, so we went out to see how that dynamic plays out in real life. The verdict? It doesn't work at all.👍

Fables aren't meant to be taken as literal field guides for animal behavior.
Often, they serve as symbolic snapshots of human nature and personality traits.
Jean de La Fontaine was a master at that particular craft.
crimsoncanyon2 crimsoncanyon2 Active Member
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#25 ·
You can play the victim in one story, just like you can play the villain in the next...
Patrick Miller3 Patrick Miller3 Member
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#26 ·
The real question is this: can people actually change their fundamental nature?
Why is a scorpion always going to be a scorpion, and why is a frog always just a frog?
crimsoncanyon2 crimsoncanyon2 Active Member
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#27 ·
Patrick Miller3 said:The real question is this: can people actually change their fundamental nature?
Why is a scorpion always going to be a scorpion, and why is a frog always just a frog?

You can't change your nature, but you can certainly fake a persona.
But here’s the kicker: How long can you keep up the act?
Chris Chase5 Chris Chase5 Active Member
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#28 ·
Nobody is just born being one way or another; instead, we make ourselves who we are through every single choice we make. To expand on my earlier thought, when someone chooses to sting, they aren't just acting on instinct—they’re making a conscious decision because they want to feel like they have the upper hand. And if someone gets stung but refuses to change their own approach or boundaries, that's also a choice they're making...

Naturally, my goal is to be like a frog—to act with kindness and purpose, because that’s what feels right. If everyone made that same effort to lead with good intentions, the world would be a much better place for all of us.

Anyway, that's just my take.
Hannah White2 Hannah White2 Active Member
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#29 ·
Honestly, we could be either one depending on how the day goes. I don't see why 😕

this whole theory is just plain idiotic /lol/

animals can only represent ONE tiny slice of who we are—if people actually believed life was that shallow, they’d probably stop wasting money on healthcare, and god knows we need to save some cash there😁
Patrick Miller3 Patrick Miller3 Member
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#30 ·
The story isn't foolish—the animals are merely symbolic here.
I think that part is pretty obvious.
🤣
Harold Taylor3 Harold Taylor3 Newcomer
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#31 ·
It is a fundamental flaw when someone fails to trust their own initial judgment, instead allowing some predatory influence—much like a scorpion's sting—to persuade them into changing course prematurely.
I suspect this is the core issue plaguing most people today; they simply lack any real conviction in their own reasoning or the validity of their own perspectives.

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