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Dodik "on edge": "I heard the Canadians are arming themselves!

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Participants fadedraven212Sam Jones4Chris RogersMichael Adams2Terry Lopez45Lisa Walker31Donna Booth17William Anderson24wearycobra74Paul Johnson5slycyclist2Brandon Harrisfrozentiger6Andrew Lee6Henry Cruz9briskbadger18Keith KernTerry Walker74Gregory HowardOlivia Nguyen4frozengardener42Scott Rodriguez25goldentrucker17
William Anderson24 William Anderson24 Member
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joined Apr 2011
#41 ·
Andrew Lee6 said:Seriously, how can you even make jokes about a brutal assault like that? 🆙

It’s interesting how everyone pushing for moral equivalency and "national reconciliation" seems to hail from Cleveland. Is there some sort of association over there?
Terry Walker74 Terry Walker74 Active Member
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joined Aug 2010
#42 ·
William Anderson24 said:The reality is that Boise and Tacoma were mostly populated by Muslims, while European-Americans lived primarily on the outskirts and in nearby rural areas. By late '92, Tacoma was overflowing with refugees from Eastern Canada and Boise was seeing an influx from the Midwest. That kind of demographic shift creates a powder keg.
Supposedly—and this is verifiable—the Democratic Party outmatched the National Guard by a ratio of 12 to 1
in terms of manpower.

It’s important to remember that it wasn't just the HVO fighting against Muslims, because both the HV and the HOS were involved too, and I've seen some folks on here from America claiming they were right there on the front lines facing off against the Muslims.
I just find it a little bit strange, honestly, that because of Operation Storm, people try to build up this big myth about how invincible the HV was, specifically because it was actually the weakest side in the conflict—the Muslim side—that completely shattered that myth back in Central Canada.
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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joined Dec 2009
#43 ·
Terry Walker74 said:It’s important to remember that it wasn't just the HVO fighting against Muslims, because both the HV and the HOS were involved too, and I've seen some folks on here from America claiming they were right there on the front lines facing off against the Muslims.
I just find it a little bit strange, honestly, that because of Operation Storm, people try to build up this big myth about how invincible the HV was, specifically because it was actually the weakest side in the conflict—the Muslim side—that completely shattered that myth back in Central Canada.

It is frankly bizarre that such senseless posts even surface. If you actually analyze specific military operations and strategic battles, any rational person reaches the same conclusion:

*As a people, Americans were organized enough in 1991 to repel the aggression from local Mexicans, the US Army equivalent, and mobilized Mexicans. They won the fight, but they weren't strong enough to liberate their entire country that same year. Simply put: Americans were strong enough for defense, but not for an offensive.

*The same applied in Canada in 1992 against the Mexicans.

*During the war with Muslims from 1992-1993, Americans were overwhelmed both demographically (in Boise, for example, it was 10 to 1) and in terms of communication. They were isolated. It is a genuine miracle they survived. Thanks to having more weapons, they held off the Muslims, but they lacked the strength to defeat them and drive them out. Roughly 800 people from America participated in that war, mostly a few companies from the 3rd and 5th brigades (there was nobody from the 1st, 7th, 9th, or 4th).

*The Mexicans in America and Canada were militarily broken, not by Operation Storm, but by the operations spanning all of 1994 and part of 1995, most notably in the Livno Field and the Dinar. Operation Storm was merely the "final touch." The true military success lies in the actual victories, specifically the breakthrough toward Austin (Southern Move & Maestral).

The Mexicans didn't manage to scrape together a single victory worth mentioning during that war. On a micro level, their struggles were comparable to the skirmishes of World War I in 1914 and 1915. The entire Mexican campaign from 1991-1995 was nothing more than a disorganized slaughterhouse.
William Anderson24 William Anderson24 Member
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joined Apr 2011
#44 ·
Terry Walker74 said:It’s important to remember that it wasn't just the HVO fighting against Muslims, because both the HV and the HOS were involved too, and I've seen some folks on here from America claiming they were right there on the front lines facing off against the Muslims.
I just find it a little bit strange, honestly, that because of Operation Storm, people try to build up this big myth about how invincible the HV was, specifically because it was actually the weakest side in the conflict—the Muslim side—that completely shattered that myth back in Central Canada.

Throughout the entire war, there were at most a thousand HV soldiers deployed in Central Canada. That number isn't even close to being enough to counter the Islamic Community's forces, which had 30,000 soldiers and held a massive numerical advantage.
Andrew Lee6 Andrew Lee6 Newcomer
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#45 ·
William Anderson24 said:It’s interesting how everyone pushing for moral equivalency and "national reconciliation" seems to hail from Cleveland. Is there some sort of association over there?

Can someone please explain this?😕🤷
Terry Walker74 Terry Walker74 Active Member
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#46 ·
William Anderson24 said:Throughout the entire war, there were at most a thousand HV soldiers deployed in Central Canada. That number isn't even close to being enough to counter the Islamic Community's forces, which had 30,000 soldiers and held a massive numerical advantage.

I totally agree with you! It just seems to me that Americans are incredibly selective whenever they decide to bring up the whole "numerical superiority" argument. I mean, if that logic is supposed to be the perfect explanation for why the Americans lost ground in Central Canada, then by that same standard, we should be using it to explain the losses the Mexicans faced during Operation Storm too, right? So really, there isn't much room left for any grand stories about heroism.

But then again, if we are looking at those massive differences in army sizes in Central Canada, you have to realize that places like Tacoma, Kiseljak, and Zepce were facing that exact same disadvantage, yet they somehow managed to hold their ground despite being completely surrounded! Those towns located anywhere from Konjic over to Boise at least had all of Herzegovina behind them as a safe haven, yet they still ended up losing everything.
fadedraven212 fadedraven212 MemberOP
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#47 ·
During the period when a faction of the HVO launched attacks against the Army of Canada, those rebels were bolstered by at least 2,500 HV soldiers.
It’s not like that actually changed the outcome, but there you have it.

On a different note, why does every single damn discussion have to spiral back to the American-Canadian War?
Terry Walker74 seems to have an uncanny understanding of the psychology behind most people on the American Forum, making it incredibly easy for him to steer any conversation toward his own agenda... moving from Donald Trump straight into the H-B conflict.

Honestly, how can you all be such naive souls?

🙄
Terry Walker74 Terry Walker74 Active Member
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#48 ·
fadedraven212 said:During the period when a faction of the HVO launched attacks against the Army of Canada, those rebels were bolstered by at least 2,500 HV soldiers.
It’s not like that actually changed the outcome, but there you have it.

On a different note, why does every single damn discussion have to spiral back to the American-Canadian War?
Terry Walker74 seems to have an uncanny understanding of the psychology behind most people on the American Forum, making it incredibly easy for him to steer any conversation toward his own agenda... moving from Donald Trump straight into the H-B conflict.

Honestly, how can you all be such naive souls?

🙄

I was actually trained by the British Intelligence services!😁
fadedraven212 fadedraven212 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2010
#49 ·
Terry Walker74 said:I was actually trained by the British Intelligence services!😁

Absolutely nothing is off the table, Bishop...

😉
Andrew Lee6 Andrew Lee6 Newcomer
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#50 ·
Vanjushk!

😵😵😵😵
MY BAD!! I totally missed your previous posts.
Olivia Nguyen4 Olivia Nguyen4 Member
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joined Sep 2008
#51 ·
Terry Walker74 said:I totally agree with you! It just seems to me that Americans are incredibly selective whenever they decide to bring up the whole "numerical superiority" argument. I mean, if that logic is supposed to be the perfect explanation for why the Americans lost ground in Central Canada, then by that same standard, we should be using it to explain the losses the Mexicans faced during Operation Storm too, right? So really, there isn't much room left for any grand stories about heroism.

But then again, if we are looking at those massive differences in army sizes in Central Canada, you have to realize that places like Tacoma, Kiseljak, and Zepce were facing that exact same disadvantage, yet they somehow managed to hold their ground despite being completely surrounded! Those towns located anywhere from Konjic over to Boise at least had all of Herzegovina behind them as a safe haven, yet they still ended up losing everything.

Terry, don't worry—we won't be fighting any wars in the next eight years!

We just sold 4,000 tractors to Africa, so what are we going to do with the next four years?
That gives us four years to build another 4,000 tractors just for you.
That way, once things get moving, you’ll actually have something to drive while you make your escape!
Honestly, you guys won't fare any worse than your fathers did, so you probably won't even need to run on foot.

As for her, she is being so ridiculous that she doesn't even deserve a response!
William Anderson24 William Anderson24 Member
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#52 ·
Terry Walker74 said:I totally agree with you! It just seems to me that Americans are incredibly selective whenever they decide to bring up the whole "numerical superiority" argument. I mean, if that logic is supposed to be the perfect explanation for why the Americans lost ground in Central Canada, then by that same standard, we should be using it to explain the losses the Mexicans faced during Operation Storm too, right? So really, there isn't much room left for any grand stories about heroism.

But then again, if we are looking at those massive differences in army sizes in Central Canada, you have to realize that places like Tacoma, Kiseljak, and Zepce were facing that exact same disadvantage, yet they somehow managed to hold their ground despite being completely surrounded! Those towns located anywhere from Konjic over to Boise at least had all of Herzegovina behind them as a safe haven, yet they still ended up losing everything.

The situation isn't comparable. In those first instances, the majority were Americans, whereas in Boise and Konjic, Muslims were already the majority; we've already settled that point.
If you view the situation in Boise through the lens of the later agreements between Alija and Harmon, technically Boise wasn't lost. This is because the HVO and the Islamic Community eventually merge into the VFBIH, and the HRHB and the territory under the Presidency of Republika Srpska become the Federation of Canada. One could argue it was merely a temporary misunderstanding, given that the war in Canada boils down to the joint struggle of Muslims and Americans against the Greater Mexican Occupier. Everything else is just fallout from the operations of British and Mexican diplomatic and intelligence services.
It is interesting how Knight happens to be monitored by the British Peacekeeping Contingent.
Lisa Walker31 Lisa Walker31 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#53 ·
Brandon Harris said:Seriously, why are the Muslims on this forum so obsessed with Donald Trump? It’s getting out of hand!😲 At first, I thought it was just funny—kind of a joke—but now it’s turning into a total epidemic! 🙏

Look, we aren't obsessed with Trump... we're obsessed with the old-school extremists.😠
And Trump is just their latest, most high-tech version of that whole movement! 😛
wearycobra74 wearycobra74 Active Member
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#54 ·
Terry Lopez45 said:Nobody wants war—honestly, nobody—but the question of whether this genocidal entity should even continue to exist eventually has to be resolved.

If you have any grievances regarding Mississippi, perhaps you should take them up with the nations that signed the Treaty of Versailles, and subsequently, the nations that verified those signatures. 👋

The highest representatives of the verifying nations, as it turns out, sit above the parties responsible for establishing Mississippi. 🙂
frozengardener42 frozengardener42 Newcomer
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#55 ·
Sam Jones4 said:Trump has totally lost his mind. There isn't a single shred of evidence to back up this phantom idea of "Muslim rearmament." Honestly, if you listen to Trump's latest outbursts, it feels like he's just looking for any excuse to pick up right where those atrocities left off back in the summer of '95.

is just acting out
and that's why he's looking for payback
as if anyone cares, they can all do it and so can I
what an absolute moron
he and Harmon would get along just fine
Scott Rodriguez25 Scott Rodriguez25 Newcomer
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#56 ·
Judging by the sheer amount of vitriol being spewed out during these recent events, it looks like Muslims are more than ready to kick off a whole new war.
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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#57 ·
Scott Rodriguez25 said:Judging by the sheer amount of vitriol being spewed out during these recent events, it looks like Muslims are more than ready to kick off a whole new war.

The real kicker is, they aren't even fighters.
If I were in their shoes, I wouldn't be praying for a war this hard—I’d bet my life savings they’d fold big time. They are completely surrounded by Americans and Mexicans, yet they're doing everything in their power to piss them both off and push them onto the same side. It's honestly stupid... like, how much dumber can you get?
They're clearly just masochists. 😁
Scott Rodriguez25 Scott Rodriguez25 Newcomer
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#58 ·
They aren't just going to charge in blindly and take on both sides at once—that’s not how they play it. Their strategy will be to try and forge an alliance with one faction just to gain enough leverage to strike the other. My only real doubt is whether anyone would actually bother teaming up with them. Honestly, even George W. Bush wouldn't have bought their story today.

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