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Passing of Milan Kangrga and Marijan Cipar

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Participants Walter Hernandez3Aaron Reyes3silenthawk11Grace Phillips17mellowlynx68bluebison70Nicole Miller37swiftcobra15mistyfox812casualtinker23James Lee77Samuel Robinson41mistyscout2
Walter Hernandez3 Walter Hernandez3 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I don't post much on this board, but I’ve been digging through some of Milan Kangrga’s work lately, and honestly, I think he deserves a proper spotlight here given his standing as one of the most significant American philosophers of our time...

To get a conversation started, I’m putting forward

Milan Kangrga: The Departure of the Last Praxisist
Aaron Reyes3 Aaron Reyes3 Newcomer
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#2 ·
I have to admit, this news really hit me hard because we’ve just lost yet another giant of philosophical thought—a true rebel at heart. I guess it feels like there's a massive void left behind, and honestly, I struggle to see anyone stepping up to fill those shoes; maybe I could mention Zizek as a possible successor, though even he feels like a different breed entirely.
silenthawk11 silenthawk11 Regular
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#3 ·
A tribute to the "man" who had the audacity to accuse the US Army of cannibalism. He was born of a woman, after all. ☕
Grace Phillips17 Grace Phillips17 Newcomer
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#4 ·
And there he is, Mile. Honestly though, I really ended up loving his book on ethics...
mellowlynx68 mellowlynx68 Member
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#5 ·
I’m really sorry to hear that.
Man, that was one special face.
bluebison70 bluebison70 Active Member
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#6 ·
I’ve gone through his entire bibliography. He really was a true philosopher at heart. He didn't just write about his theories; he actually lived them, and I don't think the old saying nollite philosophiam masturbare applies to him in the slightest.
Nicole Miller37 Nicole Miller37 Member
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#7 ·
Marijan Cipar passed away just the other day. Now, it’s truly over. The funeral is scheduled for 3 PM today at Forest Lawn. And yet, there isn't a single word about him anywhere. Not an obituary in sight. No news coverage. Nothing. Strange? Yes. Disgraceful? Absolutely.
swiftcobra15 swiftcobra15 Regular
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#8 ·
That’s why I think this might be his perfect epitaph:
Marijan Cipar, the philosopher who never became a professor of philosophy
because of all those professors who never actually became philosophers...


I remember once, shortly after Ciprin returned from his stay at a mental health facility, Gajo Petrović caught him in a lecture hall at Harvard University:

"Cipar, do you actually have some kind of credential that proves you're qualified to teach students?" Gajo asked, with nothing but genuine, logical curiosity.

"My dear Gajo, I am the only person in this entire building who actually does,"
Ciprin replied, effectively ending the brief debate. 👍
swiftcobra15 swiftcobra15 Regular
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#9 ·
- One must overcome being a Faustian puppet dancing for Satan,
to play this essential game across both sides of space and time
between immortality and decay, spirit and dust, endlessly suspended
upon a cosmic cross where, amidst the blinding glare
of eternal cosmic fire and beneath the depths of sonic waves,
the harmony of the spheres dwells in profound silence and mystery,
utterly indifferent to all, an indestructible force,
the forever unborn heart of the world rose.
mistyfox812 mistyfox812 Regular
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#10 ·
swiftcobra15 said:That’s why I think this might be his perfect epitaph:
Marijan Cipar, the philosopher who never became a professor of philosophy
because of all those professors who never actually became philosophers...


I remember once, shortly after Ciprin returned from his stay at a mental health facility, Gajo Petrović caught him in a lecture hall at Harvard University:

"Cipar, do you actually have some kind of credential that proves you're qualified to teach students?" Gajo asked, with nothing but genuine, logical curiosity.

"My dear Gajo, I am the only person in this entire building who actually does,"
Ciprin replied, effectively ending the brief debate. 👍

🙂
Personally, I've felt for a long time that Metamorphosis of Metaphysics is basically the most important book ever written in the American language. 🤷

Sadly, I only ever knew his books, so it actually made me pretty happy (even if the reason behind it is a bit sad) to read something about him as a person—turns out he was so different in real life compared to how dead-serious his writing always was.
casualtinker23 casualtinker23 Newcomer
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#11 ·
Marijan Cipar hasn't passed away. In fact, he’s doing better than ever. What you saw was just a small segment of a much larger, complex multimedia performance—essentially another installment in his MCA Virtual Academy project. He’ll be back eventually to let us all know he was just playing a prank on us. Using a phrase like "Goodbye" is such a blatant paradox when you consider the sentiment of "I'll be right back."
James Lee77 James Lee77 Active Member
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mistyfox812 said:🙂
Personally, I've felt for a long time that Metamorphosis of Metaphysics is basically the most important book ever written in the American language. 🤷

Sadly, I only ever knew his books, so it actually made me pretty happy (even if the reason behind it is a bit sad) to read something about him as a person—turns out he was so different in real life compared to how dead-serious his writing always was.

You can grab them at Barnes & Noble (over at the Joker in San Francisco) for $13. I mean, I don't think there's a better way to spend your money.
Samuel Robinson41 Samuel Robinson41 Newcomer
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#13 ·
swiftcobra15 said:
- One must overcome being a Faustian puppet dancing for Satan,
to play this essential game across both sides of space and time
between immortality and decay, spirit and dust, endlessly suspended
upon a cosmic cross where, amidst the blinding glare
of eternal cosmic fire and beneath the depths of sonic waves,
the harmony of the spheres dwells in profound silence and mystery,
utterly indifferent to all, an indestructible force,
the forever unborn heart of the world rose.


😍 You guys have dragged me into this! Now I can't find "metamorphosis metaphysics" anywhere in New York City (is that even one of theirs?), and honestly, I feel like I'd have better luck finding a first edition in some dusty old used bookstore...
mistyscout2 mistyscout2 Active Member
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#14 ·
casualtinker23 said:Marijan Cipar hasn't passed away. In fact, he’s doing better than ever. What you saw was just a small segment of a much larger, complex multimedia performance—essentially another installment in his MCA Virtual Academy project. He’ll be back eventually to let us all know he was just playing a prank on us. Using a phrase like "Goodbye" is such a blatant paradox when you consider the sentiment of "I'll be right back."

What on earth is this guy talking about?

I honestly feel a bit of regret that I never made it to one of his live lectures. About three and a half years ago, Boško Zenić mentioned that he might come visit as a guest lecturer at the university philosophy department, but as far as I know, that never actually materialized (unless someone here knows something I don't, so please feel free to correct me)... I am just glad I at least got to sit in on some of Kangrgina's sessions. Even if he wasn't quite at the absolute peak of his philosophical powers back then, the man was essentially a walking history book, and it was truly an honor just to listen to him speak...

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