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Nicholas Wright31 Nicholas Wright31 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
On Wednesday, the chairman of the Orthodox Jewish Union and chief Rabbi of Hebron, Rabbi Dov Lior, released a religious ruling declaring that under Jewish law, hiring Arabs or renting property to them is strictly prohibited.

Speaking in an interview published by "Our Land of Israel," which is set to be circulated this Saturday in various synagogues, Lior noted that because this involves a direct threat to human life, it is absolutely forbidden to employ them or lease homes to them in the United States. He clarified that this ban isn't limited to yeshivas—it applies to factories, hotels, and just about everywhere else too.
So much for democracy in the US... 🙂

Best, Nicholas Wright31
nimbleranger19 nimbleranger19 Member
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What does any of this have to do with democracy in the US?

We're talking about some crazy rabbi's ramblings here—stuff that honestly, nobody should even be taking seriously.
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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...yet another thread about "democracy"...🙂...
...look, we’ve been over this a million times already, but people just stay quiet while this insane level of segregation is happening right under their noses...just imagine if we had rules like that here in the States or anywhere else...it's honestly hard to wrap your head around...
...and I should probably mention this whole "Eretz" thing too...they aren't just talking about the West Bank and the Gaza Strip; they're claiming territory in Syria (the Golan Heights) and the entire country of Jordan as well...talk about being pretentious, honestly, even someone like Slobodan Maddox would be embarrassed by that kind of ego...
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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nimbleranger19 said:What does any of this have to do with democracy in the US?

We're talking about some crazy rabbi's ramblings here—stuff that honestly, nobody should even be taking seriously.

What's even the point of arguing? All those rules they're enforcing up there are just one tiny piece of the whole apartheid puzzle—there’s way more to this mess than people want to admit.
nimbleranger19 nimbleranger19 Member
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goldensailor15 said:What's even the point of arguing? All those rules they're enforcing up there are just one tiny piece of the whole apartheid puzzle—there’s way more to this mess than people want to admit.

Nah, not really.

I get that certain groups are facing discrimination, but that doesn't have anything to do with whether the system is a democracy or not. The title of this thread is pretty specific—it should be about discrimination in Israel.
frozenfox13 frozenfox13 Member
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nimbleranger19 said:What does any of this have to do with democracy in the US?

We're talking about some crazy rabbi's ramblings here—stuff that honestly, nobody should even be taking seriously.

He isn't some fringe lunatic rabbi; he’s actually one of the leading Ashkenazi rabbis.
Beyond that, this decision was prompted by the Jerusalem massacre—specifically after an individual with Israeli citizenship walked into a yeshiva and killed eight children. Judging by how many people within the Arab population seem to support such actions (and please, don't make me pull up those depressing statistics), combined with the full-throated support and logistical backing provided by Balestinčad, I suspect this move is necessary, even if it is long overdue.

Free Israel!
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active Member
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Nicholas Wright31 said:On Wednesday, the chairman of the Orthodox Jewish Union and chief Rabbi of Hebron, Rabbi Dov Lior, released a religious ruling declaring that under Jewish law, hiring Arabs or renting property to them is strictly prohibited.

Speaking in an interview published by "Our Land of Israel," which is set to be circulated this Saturday in various synagogues, Lior noted that because this involves a direct threat to human life, it is absolutely forbidden to employ them or lease homes to them in the United States. He clarified that this ban isn't limited to yeshivas—it applies to factories, hotels, and just about everywhere else too.
So much for democracy in the US... 🙂

Best, Nicholas Wright31

Once again, Muslims are flooding the news cycle.

Same old tactics. ☕

Otherwise, a commendable initiative. I hope more people in Israel adopt it. 👍
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active Member
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#8 ·
Anyway, does anyone actually know if this "topic" counts toward that writer's collection or what...😉
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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#9 ·
...seriously, just kill this thread already. All this talk about the lack of democracy in Israel... it's ridiculous. Everyone, especially those non-Jews, starts rushing toward Israel because they heard it’s some kind of utopia—super prosperous, democratic, humane, and advanced... basically paradise on earth...🙂...

...p.s....here's a US article, just so we don't have to deal with people spamming links from propaganda outlets like the NY Post or whatever else comes from the other side...
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active Member
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goldensailor15 said:...seriously, just kill this thread already. All this talk about the lack of democracy in Israel... it's ridiculous. Everyone, especially those non-Jews, starts rushing toward Israel because they heard it’s some kind of utopia—super prosperous, democratic, humane, and advanced... basically paradise on earth...🙂...

...p.s....here's a US article, just so we don't have to deal with people spamming links from propaganda outlets like the NY Post or whatever else comes from the other side...

In reality, it's mostly Arabs and Muslims heading there, claiming to be women with Israeli citizenship. 😉

The way things work in the Islamic world, women generally defer to men, so I really don't get why this specific phenomenon keeps popping up in Israel. 😍
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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Paul Wells17 said:In reality, it's mostly Arabs and Muslims heading there, claiming to be women with Israeli citizenship. 😉

The way things work in the Islamic world, women generally defer to men, so I really don't get why this specific phenomenon keeps popping up in Israel. 😍

...can you actually snag Israeli citizenship that way? If so, I don't even need an answer...
...look, no matter how Israel plays its hand, things are going to end badly. If they decide to democratize, they'll just be inviting a relentless wave of attacks and leaving their citizens living in constant stress because everyone is suddenly "equal" under the law, regardless of whether they're Jewish or not. But if they stay exactly as they are now—this separatist, oppressive, apartheid-style entity that spends every single day crushing innocent, innocent non-Jews—then it’s still a disaster because they’ll remain a total laughingstock to the rest of the modern world. And trust me, the Zionists know this problem all too well 🙂...

...so let me ask you, if you happen to have any insider info... when is the liberation of the territory that makes up the state of Jordan going to happen?
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active Member
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goldensailor15 said:...can you actually snag Israeli citizenship that way? If so, I don't even need an answer...
...look, no matter how Israel plays its hand, things are going to end badly. If they decide to democratize, they'll just be inviting a relentless wave of attacks and leaving their citizens living in constant stress because everyone is suddenly "equal" under the law, regardless of whether they're Jewish or not. But if they stay exactly as they are now—this separatist, oppressive, apartheid-style entity that spends every single day crushing innocent, innocent non-Jews—then it’s still a disaster because they’ll remain a total laughingstock to the rest of the modern world. And trust me, the Zionists know this problem all too well 🙂...

...so let me ask you, if you happen to have any insider info... when is the liberation of the territory that makes up the state of Jordan going to happen?

Well, those so-called "Palestinians" tried to liberate it themselves—since they make up 80% of what they call "Palestine"—so the King sent them packing to Lebanon.

And along the way, he wiped out 30,000 people in a single month.

That’s what they call the "Black September."

I mean, surely you remember the massive demonstrations and protests across the Muslim world against that massacre...😬

Fine! Why would any sane person stick their nose into the "interpersonal" affairs of Muslims? They clearly know how to handle their own business... 😍
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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Sure, but when is Israel actually going to start liberating this land? Otherwise, this whole "eretz" concept is just empty talk... unless it's all just theoretical planning until the moment the USA pulls the trigger and Jordan's king gets kicked to the curb
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...otherwise, for the uninformed out there... we're talking about Sinai (Egypt), almost all of Syria, the entirety of Jordan, and maybe even parts of Iraq... honestly, even Slobodan Maddox with his Greater Mexico looks tame compared to this 🙂... and Mexicans have held onto territory in the North America for a long time, which is more than I can say for people in Kazakhstan or the regions we're discussing here
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Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active Member
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#14 ·
The Jordanian King killed 30,000 "Palestinians" in just one month, yet this is how Muslims react:

goldensailor15 said:Sure, but when is Israel actually going to start liberating this land? Otherwise, this whole "eretz" concept is just empty talk... unless it's all just theoretical planning until the moment the USA pulls the trigger and Jordan's king gets kicked to the curb
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...otherwise, for the uninformed out there... we're talking about Sinai (Egypt), almost all of Syria, the entirety of Jordan, and maybe even parts of Iraq... honestly, even Slobodan Maddox with his Greater Mexico looks tame compared to this 🙂... and Mexicans have held onto territory in the North America for a long time, which is more than I can say for people in Kazakhstan or the regions we're discussing here
.

😬

So now, does anyone actually believe you care about "Palestinians"?🤣
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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Paul Wells17 said:The Jordanian King killed 30,000 "Palestinians" in just one month, yet this is how Muslims react:

😬

So now, does anyone actually believe you care about "Palestinians"?🤣

...nah, Palestinians react the way they always do—they know what's up better than anyone—but I'll respond like this:

goldensailor15 said:Sure, but when is Israel actually going to start liberating this land? Otherwise, this whole "eretz" concept is just empty talk... unless it's all just theoretical planning until the moment the USA pulls the trigger and Jordan's king gets kicked to the curb
.
...otherwise, for the uninformed out there... we're talking about Sinai (Egypt), almost all of Syria, the entirety of Jordan, and maybe even parts of Iraq... honestly, even Slobodan Maddox with his Greater Mexico looks tame compared to this 🙂... and Mexicans have held onto territory in the North America for a long time, which is more than I can say for people in Kazakhstan or the regions we're discussing here
.

...and still nothing, zero points, no answer... I get it though, I guess it's a sensitive security issue🙂...

...p.s.... I forgot to mention the claims over the Turkish border and all of Lebanon too 😍...
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active Member
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goldensailor15 said:...nah, Palestinians react the way they always do—they know what's up better than anyone—but I'll respond like this:

...and still nothing, zero points, no answer... I get it though, I guess it's a sensitive security issue🙂...

...p.s.... I forgot to mention the claims over the Turkish border and all of Lebanon too 😍...

If you actually understood English, you would have found the answer right there in the link itself. 😉
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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Paul Wells17 said:If you actually understood English, you would have found the answer right there in the link itself. 😉

...whatever, easy enough...what I really want to know is if you've got some kind of insider info 🙂, seeing as you're clearly the go-to agent 😵 for the prosperous and free state of Israel where democracy is just thriving 😬...
Austin Grant9 Austin Grant9 Member
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goldensailor15 said:...yet another thread about "democracy"...🙂...
...look, we’ve been over this a million times already, but people just stay quiet while this insane level of segregation is happening right under their noses...just imagine if we had rules like that here in the States or anywhere else...it's honestly hard to wrap your head around...
...and I should probably mention this whole "Eretz" thing too...they aren't just talking about the West Bank and the Gaza Strip; they're claiming territory in Syria (the Golan Heights) and the entire country of Jordan as well...talk about being pretentious, honestly, even someone like Slobodan Maddox would be embarrassed by that kind of ego...

Since when did you start opposing the occupation? You're such a hypocrite. 😉
Palestinians are thriving in the state of Israel now, whereas before they lived like total garbage.
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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Austin Grant9 said:Since when did you start opposing the occupation? You're such a hypocrite. 😉
Palestinians are thriving in the state of Israel now, whereas before they lived like total garbage.

...ever since there are all these different ways to tell who's Jewish and who isn't... from license plates on cars and everything else...
...like I said...equal rights for everyone not just a hand-picked few...
...go ahead and do some reading on what rights Jews have versus non-Jews in Israel...there hasn't been a more calculated system of discrimination in history...and we're talking about the 21st century here...
...who's actually prospering?...stop talking nonsense...they're thriving like rabbits...it's the Jews who are being incentivized to settle there...it's targeted down to specific households...the examples of segregation are insane...it's unprecedented...

...that's the whole story and the whole problem...these people want a pure Jewish state (which is basically what they have now) but instead they've got millions upon millions of non-Jews living there...and there's the rub...you can't just make a people disappear, and it's a massive headache for a Zionist Israel like this because the birth rate among the Palestinians is way higher than theirs...
rustywalker42 rustywalker42 Active Member
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nimbleranger19 said:What does any of this have to do with democracy in the US?

We're talking about some crazy rabbi's ramblings here—stuff that honestly, nobody should even be taking seriously.

Oh, absolutely.

If this news had actually come out of Iran, we’d be looking at some bloodthirsty Iranian mob hellbent on wiping out everything Western civilization stands for. Wouldn't we?

When it comes to Israel, we’re really just talking about one crazy rabbi. That's it.

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