New Age spirituality: Can it actually save the planet?

Morgan Hernandez5 said:👍

I think the mind matters too, maybe just as much as the soul.
but I get why you framed it that way. materialism has been running the show for forever
because of institutions and science.
from atoms—just closed-off things in space and time—all the way to humans
built out of egos, tied only to super-egos... whatever. everything is just fractured, no real connections, and the result is =) a crisis of meaning, right?
we've had enough of pure logic and the mind, maybe now it's time for other ways of perceiving,
emotions, intuition... is that what you were getting at? we gotta bring things back into balance.

Is consciousness spiritual intelligence? Are we really trying to define
consciousness😬

Logic is vital, obviously, but when we push our intellect too hard trying to prove everything, we drift away from who we actually are—that core of pure kindness and fearless love. Logic asks: "Why bother with spirituality? Why do we need any of this when the world looks like a chaotic, rushed, violent mess where you just have to adapt and survive, and only the strongest make it?" The answer is simple: because that's the only thing worth doing—moving toward the spirit, existing in the material world while staying aware of the spiritual side. As your awareness grows, your mind shifts too. At a certain stage of development, which everyone eventually recognizes, consciousness becomes self-correcting. You don't go back to those "old mistakes" or "weaknesses." Every human being craves finding their own rhythm, being healthy, and aligning with their life's true purpose. Everyone is born with that potential, reflected in what we call the soul—which is really just the body's energy giving us the capacity to truly live. The problem is that so many people give up parts of their soul (their actual potential). That creates the emptiness most people feel today (George Washington started a thread about this on the forum). We really just need to look within our own hearts.

Jacob Jackson50 said:Logic is vital, obviously, but when we push our intellect too hard trying to prove everything, we drift away from who we actually are—that core of pure kindness and fearless love. Logic asks: "Why bother with spirituality? Why do we need any of this when the world looks like a chaotic, rushed, violent mess where you just have to adapt and survive, and only the strongest make it?" The answer is simple: because that's the only thing worth doing—moving toward the spirit, existing in the material world while staying aware of the spiritual side. As your awareness grows, your mind shifts too. At a certain stage of development, which everyone eventually recognizes, consciousness becomes self-correcting. You don't go back to those "old mistakes" or "weaknesses." Every human being craves finding their own rhythm, being healthy, and aligning with their life's true purpose. Everyone is born with that potential, reflected in what we call the soul—which is really just the body's energy giving us the capacity to truly live. The problem is that so many people give up parts of their soul (their actual potential). That creates the emptiness most people feel today (George Washington started a thread about this on the forum). We really just need to look within our own hearts.

George Washington nailed it.👍

Yeah, that emptiness you're talking about happens because people lack
soul, and honestly, I'm not interested in people like that. Should we even
waste "time" looking back, or should we just climb to the top of the pyramid?
Why keep going back to those types, or to people moving in the
opposite direction (erosion)? Most people are stuck down here, tied to materialism, while spirituality
belongs to the sky, and consciousness belongs to the =) universe.

You need both the mind and the soul. Balance is best. 😉
Why did you link the mind to "grinding"? 🤷
Isn't there supposed to be a free flow of thought and spirit? Energy?
Thoughts and emotions can work together so well,
completing each other and doing miracles! the turning point!

What even is love?

Love, it’s that deep, visceral warmth you feel right in your gut...

Morgan Hernandez5 said:George Washington nailed it.👍

Yeah, that emptiness you're talking about happens because people lack
soul, and honestly, I'm not interested in people like that. Should we even
waste "time" looking back, or should we just climb to the top of the pyramid?
Why keep going back to those types, or to people moving in the
opposite direction (erosion)? Most people are stuck down here, tied to materialism, while spirituality
belongs to the sky, and consciousness belongs to the =) universe.

You need both the mind and the soul. Balance is best. 😉
Why did you link the mind to "grinding"? 🤷
Isn't there supposed to be a free flow of thought and spirit? Energy?
Thoughts and emotions can work together so well,
completing each other and doing miracles! the turning point!

What even is love?

How do you even define love? The second you try to pin it down with a definition, it gets boxed in. It stops being the free, wild thing it's meant to be.

Jacob Jackson50 said:Look, jademarlin26, I think a lot of people treat this forum like some kind of battlefield—it's all about duality, winning vs. losing, constant struggle. They get so caught up in the fear of having to let go of who they used to be that they just burn out. That fear breeds this weird anger that clouds everything, making it impossible to actually see what's going on in their own lives. So instead of actually living, they just retreat into deep philosophy and mental gymnastics, drifting even further away from actually experiencing life.

Without dancing to the rhythm of shifting opposites, there is no momentum, no movement, and ultimately, no life.

jademarlin26 said:Without dancing to the rhythm of shifting opposites, there is no momentum, no movement, and ultimately, no life.

I'm right there with you,
jademarlin26. We can either jump into the fray and play those games of duality, or we can just pull all that energy back inward. Honestly? Both ways work.

Jacob Jackson50 said:I'm right there with you,
jademarlin26. We can either jump into the fray and play those games of duality, or we can just pull all that energy back inward. Honestly? Both ways work.

Exactly 👍

You can live... or you don't have to!

You could turn inward and let everything fade away. Both options work. Life and death—if they even carry any weight at all—are essentially equal in their (un)importance. 😉

Edward Flores4 said:Exactly 👍

You can live... or you don't have to!

You could turn inward and let everything fade away. Both options work. Life and death—if they even carry any weight at all—are essentially equal in their (un)importance. 😉

Leaping into the abyss is like falling straight up into total silence and peace; it brings this weird clarity and the death of all that messy logic. This state of being isn't about mindless obedience or playing nice with human stupidity or bowing down to worldly nonsense. It gives us this fearless, gutsy kind of action driven by the material world through an understanding of perfect order.

So, here’s the logic for you...
A "leap into the abyss" is essentially the end of life—which means it's also the end of what you're calling "logic," since that term becomes completely arbitrary at that point. Once you get "in there," where all dualities cease to exist, life itself stops too. In a state of pure uniformity, nothing actually exists; nothing changes, and there’s no such thing as courage or order. When everything is just one singular nothingness, nothing can be distinguished from anything else, so really, there isn't even anyone left to experience it. If everyone were identical, nobody would truly "be." Existence is really just the magic of duality—and the only way to escape that duality is through death. It’s funny how so many people crave transcending duality without actually realizing what that implies... it’s almost like they’re in a rush to die.
Funny enough 😁

thanks nimblemaker52.

Jacob Jackson50 said:How do you even define love? The second you try to pin it down with a definition, it gets boxed in. It stops being the free, wild thing it's meant to be.

Love is free and endless. Even if we can't wrap our heads around describing it,
we aren't gonna kill it with our words.
It's still gonna be there, whether we talk about it or not.🙂

Morgan Hernandez5 said:thanks nimblemaker52.

Love is free and endless. Even if we can't wrap our heads around describing it,
we aren't gonna kill it with our words.
It's still gonna be there, whether we talk about it or not.🙂

Always the same. 🙂

Edward Flores4 said:So, here’s the logic for you...
A "leap into the abyss" is essentially the end of life—which means it's also the end of what you're calling "logic," since that term becomes completely arbitrary at that point. Once you get "in there," where all dualities cease to exist, life itself stops too. In a state of pure uniformity, nothing actually exists; nothing changes, and there’s no such thing as courage or order. When everything is just one singular nothingness, nothing can be distinguished from anything else, so really, there isn't even anyone left to experience it. If everyone were identical, nobody would truly "be." Existence is really just the magic of duality—and the only way to escape that duality is through death. It’s funny how so many people crave transcending duality without actually realizing what that implies... it’s almost like they’re in a rush to die.
Funny enough 😁

Turning inward isn't about running away from life or taking action; if anything, it's about waking up to vitality, correcting our course, and shifting how we perceive reality. It’s about living more fully to quiet that constant hunger most people have for purpose, meaning, and the riches of life. Happiness is loving and being loved, and true peace comes from genuinely serving others. So, loving and serving are verbs; they're about doing what is right, and an individual can only know that through their own internal experience. Maybe that's what the hippies mean by mastering your own energy—being and acting in the material world while remaining spiritually aware at the same time.

Morgan Hernandez5 said:thanks nimblemaker52.

Love is free and endless. Even if we can't wrap our heads around describing it,
we aren't gonna kill it with our words.
It's still gonna be there, whether we talk about it or not.🙂

🙂

A "New America" is actually doable. It just takes changing how we think, which is basically the most powerful tool God the Father gave us. Thought is pure energy, I guess. If we could just focus on three things:
1. An America without wars—just people living in peace and actually loving one another;
2. A country without deserts, where everything is lush with food and clean water;
3. An America without poverty or hunger, where every community lives in abundance;

If we just hold onto those three thoughts and send them out to the Universe every morning when we wake up and every night before bed—and if more people actually did it—we’d eventually see this "New America" become a reality.

casualmoose82 said:A "New America" is actually doable. It just takes changing how we think, which is basically the most powerful tool God the Father gave us. Thought is pure energy, I guess. If we could just focus on three things:
1. An America without wars—just people living in peace and actually loving one another;
2. A country without deserts, where everything is lush with food and clean water;
3. An America without poverty or hunger, where every community lives in abundance;

If we just hold onto those three thoughts and send them out to the Universe every morning when we wake up and every night before bed—and if more people actually did it—we’d eventually see this "New America" become a reality.

Look, this 'new earth' thing—or whatever you want to call it—isn't just possible. It's already here. We just have to remember it. But man, that's hard when you're constantly distracted by what brand of cigarettes you're smoking, what designer label you're wearing, or trying to keep up with whatever trendy hipster vibe is currently blowing up on Fifth Avenue or hitting the local diners. There's no deep, complicated philosophy required. Things get ridiculously simple once you decide to live with spirit while still being stuck in this world. Just be present. Be grateful for being alive, for your health, for feeling a connection to a houseplant or just hanging out in nature. Feel that Saturday morning joy when you hit the farmer's market, soaking in all the colors and picking out fresh ingredients to cook a meal for the people you love. It's those tiny, simple things. That's what life is actually about—respecting everything.

To truly transform yourself—to overhaul your entire internal landscape and rise above the noise of the material world—is, in essence, to "change the world." But let’s be honest: you can't hope to fix what's happening inside your own head if you haven't first completely uprooted those shallow, outward-facing thoughts that tether you to the superficial.

Roger Smith5 said:WE HAVE THE POWER TO TRANSFORM THE WORLD!

Let us begin this transformation immediately—perhaps by planting a single fruit tree or a small garden plant.
- Offer kind words to those you encounter.
- Share your vision for a better world with a neighbor.
- Let go of the fears that prevent us from reaching out to one another and fighting for what is right.
- Commit to both fasting and prayer.
- Exercise caution and do not place your trust blindly in everyone, especially politicians; true change can only occur once we first address our own hearts.
- When you suffer, or when you fast and pray, do not broadcast your struggles to the world; instead, meet life with a smile, knowing that God the Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
- The most vital principle of all is LOVE... love is the ultimate healer, requiring us to cherish others while setting aside our own egos.

Honestly, this fear is the ultimate roadblock to actually living. It traps people in these rigid patterns and habits where they aren't even truly alive—they just exist. They never stop to ask "why?" or take a second to figure out what they actually need. Because of that, they drift away from love entirely, mostly because you can't really show up for anyone else if you haven't figured out how to love yourself first.