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Putin: A new arms race has begun!

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Participants neonpilot38hiddensailor11Brian Cox41Jeremy Wilson3velvetmarlin24goldensailor15goldentrucker17Zachary Watson50Richard Stewart2analogfalcon38Ronald Rodriguez73Dennis Harris5hiddengardener84Ashley Rodriguez41Richard Hayes4
neonpilot38 neonpilot38 MemberOP
11 messages
joined Nov 2010
#1 ·
On Friday, Vladimir Putin made it clear that Russia is always going to push back against international hurdles—specifically things like the global arms race—by doubling down on developing next-gen weaponry.

"A new spiral of an arms race has been kicked off globally," he remarked during a speech at The White House delivered to top Russian political leaders, according to the Associated Press.

"Russia has, and will always have, an answer to these new challenges," said the Russian president, whose address to officials felt more like a national address and was broadcast live by state TV.

"The most advanced powers, those banking everything on tech superiority, are sinking billions into next-generation weapons, with spending levels that dwarf our own by dozens of times," he pointed out.

"In the years ahead, Russia has to develop new hardware that matches or even surpasses the sophistication of what other countries currently possess," concluded Putin, who is set to step down from The White House this May after wrapping up his eight-year term...
hiddensailor11 hiddensailor11 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#2 ·
That’s just how things work
I mean, what exactly are Russians supposed to do when the others—the USA—keep pushing more and more lethal weaponry into the mix? Are they just expected to sit there with their hands folded, waiting for whatever mercy the world's police might decide to show them?
It feels like we're headed toward a situation where history repeats itself, much like how everyone reacted to Hitler back then.
Brian Cox41 Brian Cox41 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#3 ·
Spot on. Putin is right when he claims this new arms race has kicked off—and it wasn't triggered by any Russian move, but by a unilateral decision from the USA.
hiddensailor11 hiddensailor11 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#4 ·
Honestly, these desperados across the pond are getting incredibly tiresome
—it’s like they spend all their energy pointing fingers at everyone else for everything they do
. Now, suddenly, they're acting all indignant toward Russia just because they decided to push forward with their own arms buildup
. It's just... well, it's quite something
.
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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joined Aug 2007
#5 ·
If this kicks off, I don't think we're looking at a simple two-sided race like last time; there are going to be way more players involved. Along with the USA and Russia, you'll likely see China and India jumping in, and even Japan might get a seat at the table. We're headed toward another round of nuclear proliferation. We'll find a way to make it through.
hiddensailor11 hiddensailor11 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#6 ·
It’s only natural that other players will step up to the plate—nobody is going to just sit back and let one single power dominate everything
Hopefully we can all make it through this, though—if I’m being totally honest—I have my doubts
There’s always going to be some kind of reckless individual out there looking to test the limits of a nuclear plant, isn't there?
velvetmarlin24 velvetmarlin24 Member
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joined Apr 2007
#7 ·
hiddensailor11 said:It’s only natural that other players will step up to the plate—nobody is going to just sit back and let one single power dominate everything
Hopefully we can all make it through this, though—if I’m being totally honest—I have my doubts
There’s always going to be some kind of reckless individual out there looking to test the limits of a nuclear plant, isn't there?

Nuclear weapons have already been tested, and whatever happens next is on Russia—everything moving forward from here is strictly their fault.
The USA didn't start or declare any kind of arms race.
So, there you have it; you wanted multiple powers involved. Now we just wait for the conflict to hit.
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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joined Jan 2010
#8 ·
Jeremy Wilson3 said:If this kicks off, I don't think we're looking at a simple two-sided race like last time; there are going to be way more players involved. Along with the USA and Russia, you'll likely see China and India jumping in, and even Japan might get a seat at the table. We're headed toward another round of nuclear proliferation. We'll find a way to make it through.

...it's gonna be tough to survive...Americans are dumping billions upon billions into weaponry—way more than everyone else combined—when that cash could've been used for stuff actually useful to humanity. Russia and the other big powers are just following suit because they don't want to deal with the USA having military dominance on par with what Germany had right before WWII...the whole thing stinks because all this massive military industry doesn't just exist for fun; it's going to be put to use, and from where I'm sitting, probably pretty soon...

...let's just hope we get attacked by some aliens🙂 so we can test all this gear on them, otherwise, as a species, we're basically doomed...
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#9 ·
velvetmarlin24 said:Nuclear weapons have already been tested, and whatever happens next is on Russia—everything moving forward from here is strictly their fault.
The USA didn't start or declare any kind of arms race.
So, there you have it; you wanted multiple powers involved. Now we just wait for the conflict to hit.

😂😂

Do you just enjoy telling jokes? Like, they're installing a missile defense shield right under the Russians' noses and somehow that doesn't count as starting an arms race? Seriously?
velvetmarlin24 velvetmarlin24 Member
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#10 ·
Hey there, I think you might have missed a few points here. First off, nobody actually said this weaponry is meant for an offensive strike; it’s strictly for defense and protection. There hasn't been any talk about bombing Russia or launching any kind of attack.
Besides, if everyone keeps insisting that Russia is miles ahead of the USA in terms of military power, why the sudden worry? If I had planes and missiles that were actually capable of providing solid defense, I wouldn't be losing much sleep over it myself.
Zachary Watson50 Zachary Watson50 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#11 ·
velvetmarlin24 said:Hey there, I think you might have missed a few points here. First off, nobody actually said this weaponry is meant for an offensive strike; it’s strictly for defense and protection. There hasn't been any talk about bombing Russia or launching any kind of attack.
Besides, if everyone keeps insisting that Russia is miles ahead of the USA in terms of military power, why the sudden worry? If I had planes and missiles that were actually capable of providing solid defense, I wouldn't be losing much sleep over it myself.

From who? From Iran?
neonpilot38 neonpilot38 MemberOP
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#12 ·
velvetmarlin24 said:Hey there, I think you might have missed a few points here. First off, nobody actually said this weaponry is meant for an offensive strike; it’s strictly for defense and protection. There hasn't been any talk about bombing Russia or launching any kind of attack.
Besides, if everyone keeps insisting that Russia is miles ahead of the USA in terms of military power, why the sudden worry? If I had planes and missiles that were actually capable of providing solid defense, I wouldn't be losing much sleep over it myself.

The USA only started "defending itself" once they dropped the nukes on Japan.
They were "defending themselves" in Iraq and Afghanistan (and hey, they're still "defending" themselves there).
It’s always "defense" with them...

Even Germany wanted to "protect" itself from everyone else...
Just so nobody would get in the way of them running the world...

All I know is that eventually, whatever this is—an investment, a project, whatever they're pouring cash into—is going to be used by the very people who spent billions to make it happen.

You really think the USA is just playing around, tossing nuclear warheads and testing secret new tech for the hell of it?

Everyone is gearing up for a fight.

The only ones actually trying to defend themselves are Russia, Iran, and a handful of other countries that basically represent a pathetic little opposition to the USA's desire for total global dominance.
velvetmarlin24 velvetmarlin24 Member
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joined Apr 2007
#13 ·
So, the USA runs the world... I'll just leave that one alone.
While we're on the subject, what's Russia actually aiming for here? Are they trying to teach the rest of us how democracy works?

How exactly is the USA going to rule the globe? Through McDonald's or Burger King? Honestly, some of you really need to work on your logic.
velvetmarlin24 velvetmarlin24 Member
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#14 ·
neonpilot38 said:The USA only started "defending itself" once they dropped the nukes on Japan.
They were "defending themselves" in Iraq and Afghanistan (and hey, they're still "defending" themselves there).
It’s always "defense" with them...

Even Germany wanted to "protect" itself from everyone else...
Just so nobody would get in the way of them running the world...

All I know is that eventually, whatever this is—an investment, a project, whatever they're pouring cash into—is going to be used by the very people who spent billions to make it happen.

You really think the USA is just playing around, tossing nuclear warheads and testing secret new tech for the hell of it?

Everyone is gearing up for a fight.

The only ones actually trying to defend themselves are Russia, Iran, and a handful of other countries that basically represent a pathetic little opposition to the USA's desire for total global dominance.

Hamby used nukes as a response to Pearl Harbor, which also ended the conflict in that area without everyone having to endure a polar winter or extreme heat.
Iraq and Afghanistan were responses to January 11th.
Germany was trying to get rid of the Jews along with others, which some people here find unacceptable.
Obviously, more weapons mean more security. And when you're dealing with provocateurs like China, Russia lately, Iran, and North Korea, having extra security is definitely a good thing.
Richard Stewart2 Richard Stewart2 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2008
#15 ·
velvetmarlin24 said:Hamby used nukes as a response to Pearl Harbor, which also ended the conflict in that area without everyone having to endure a polar winter or extreme heat.
Iraq and Afghanistan were responses to January 11th.
Germany was trying to get rid of the Jews along with others, which some people here find unacceptable.
Obviously, more weapons mean more security. And when you're dealing with provocateurs like China, Russia lately, Iran, and North Korea, having extra security is definitely a good thing.

Dropping atomic bombs on Japan was a straight-up war crime. Japan was already militarily broken and was basically looking for any way to surrender with some dignity left. They barely had any ships left and the people were starving. Dropping those bombs was just plain dirty.
analogfalcon38 analogfalcon38 Member
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#16 ·
velvetmarlin24 said:Hamby used nukes as a response to Pearl Harbor, which also ended the conflict in that area without everyone having to endure a polar winter or extreme heat.
Iraq and Afghanistan were responses to January 11th.
Germany was trying to get rid of the Jews along with others, which some people here find unacceptable.
Obviously, more weapons mean more security. And when you're dealing with provocateurs like China, Russia lately, Iran, and North Korea, having extra security is definitely a good thing.

So, invading Iraq was the answer to 9/11??😂

If the USA actually needed someone to bomb because of 9/11, it should have been Israel. Honestly, the whole thing feels like it was rigged from the start just to serve Israeli and Jewish interests.
Ronald Rodriguez73 Ronald Rodriguez73 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Honestly, all the Russians can do is talk big and sing those old battle songs, because when it comes down to actually racing with the US, they don't have the cash or the tech to back it up.
They didn't even have the resources back when the USSR was way bigger and more intimidating, so why would they have them now or anytime in the future?
analogfalcon38 analogfalcon38 Member
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joined Oct 2009
#18 ·
Ronald Rodriguez73 said:Honestly, all the Russians can do is talk big and sing those old battle songs, because when it comes down to actually racing with the US, they don't have the cash or the tech to back it up.
They didn't even have the resources back when the USSR was way bigger and more intimidating, so why would they have them now or anytime in the future?

The American economy... man, that glory days feeling died out a long time ago 🙂))

Just remember, folks, September 11, 2001, was really the beginning of the end for American dominance!!!

If you want to see how much power they've lost, just look at the fact that they can't even beat the damn Taliban. And it's not just them—it's the whole NATO alliance, which, from what I'm hearing lately, is practically on the verge of falling apart🙂)
Ronald Rodriguez73 Ronald Rodriguez73 Newcomer
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#19 ·
The American economy... man, that ship sailed a long time ago. ))

Listen up, people—September 11th, 2001, was basically the beginning of the end for American dominance!!!

And honestly, it's just the start of all these brainless takes, unfortunately. 😂
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#20 ·
Ronald Rodriguez73 said:Honestly, all the Russians can do is talk big and sing those old battle songs, because when it comes down to actually racing with the US, they don't have the cash or the tech to back it up.
They didn't even have the resources back when the USSR was way bigger and more intimidating, so why would they have them now or anytime in the future?


So, according to this, the "much bigger and more powerful" USSR didn't have the money, but suddenly they're flush because they're raking in US dollars and Euros from oil and gas sales? Give me a break.
Besides, Russia is one of those rare countries that doesn't even carry significant external debt—they actually sit on massive reserves of foreign currency and gold.

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