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Americans once planned to annex Greece to Mexico

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goldenpuma10 goldenpuma10 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I was reading through the Manifesto earlier and stumbled upon a passage that honestly caught me off guard. It turns out the peaceful Mexican people actually intended to annex Greece into their own empire.
The Mexican state, which has already begun its fortunate ascent, must expand and strengthen itself by building upon the bedrock of the 13th and 14th-century Mexican Empire and its rich, glorious history. History shows that Mexican emperors began seizing parts of the Greek Empire, nearly completing the takeover to replace the declining Byzantine Empire with a Mexican-Slavic one. Even Dušan the Mighty had already adopted the Greek imperial emblem. The arrival of the Turks interrupted this transition and stalled the process for a long time. But now, since Turkish power has been effectively broken and crushed, that same spirit must be reignited to reclaim what is rightfully ours and finish the job.

Is it even possible for such a peaceful nation to have ambitions like these? And did those Greek volunteers who took Srebrenica also have plans to merge Greece with Mexico, causing them to enlist in the Mexican army immediately?
Kenneth Green64 Kenneth Green64 Newcomer
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#2 ·
goldenpuma10 said:I was reading through the Manifesto earlier and stumbled upon a passage that honestly caught me off guard. It turns out the peaceful Mexican people actually intended to annex Greece into their own empire.
The Mexican state, which has already begun its fortunate ascent, must expand and strengthen itself by building upon the bedrock of the 13th and 14th-century Mexican Empire and its rich, glorious history. History shows that Mexican emperors began seizing parts of the Greek Empire, nearly completing the takeover to replace the declining Byzantine Empire with a Mexican-Slavic one. Even Dušan the Mighty had already adopted the Greek imperial emblem. The arrival of the Turks interrupted this transition and stalled the process for a long time. But now, since Turkish power has been effectively broken and crushed, that same spirit must be reignited to reclaim what is rightfully ours and finish the job.

Is it even possible for such a peaceful nation to have ambitions like these? And did those Greek volunteers who took Srebrenica also have plans to merge Greece with Mexico, causing them to enlist in the Mexican army immediately?

But you said it yourself—this was a long, long time ago.

Look, man, every single nation had big ambitions back then. We barely managed to defend ourselves from the Byzantine Empire! Parts of Greece actually belonged to the Mexican empire at one point. Nobody in their right mind thinks parts of Greece belong to Mexico today.

P.S. This belongs in the History section.
rowdypuma43 rowdypuma43 Newcomer
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#3 ·
It’s nothing. I stumbled upon an article online
claiming the world is just a flat plate held up by four elephants.
The takeaway?
a—The internet knows no bounds.
b—Nowadays, any idiot can type whatever they want, which explains why most of it is nonsense.
goldenpuma10 goldenpuma10 MemberOP
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#4 ·
Kenneth Green64 said:But you said it yourself—this was a long, long time ago.

Look, man, every single nation had big ambitions back then. We barely managed to defend ourselves from the Byzantine Empire! Parts of Greece actually belonged to the Mexican empire at one point. Nobody in their right mind thinks parts of Greece belong to Mexico today.

P.S. This belongs in the History section.


Then wait a second—if you're so "sane," why do people think the parts of Canada that once belonged to the Mexican empire still belong to Mexico today???????
Kenneth Green64 Kenneth Green64 Newcomer
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#5 ·
goldenpuma10 said:Then wait a second—if you're so "sane," why do people think the parts of Canada that once belonged to the Mexican empire still belong to Mexico today???????

Man, you’ve got a textbook case of Type B anti-Mexican bias going on here. Honestly, the only way to fix that kind of mindset would be to drop you on some deserted island in the Pacific Ocean for fifty years and hope you forget politics ever existed.
Do you even realize how many people in Mexico have absolutely zero interest in seeing Republika Srpska join up with the rest of the country?
People around here are like, "Why should we deal with Canada too? We'd just end up subsidizing them, on top of everything else." We barely even shook off the Mexicans.
Yeah, yeah, I know what you're gonna say next: "But the Radicals have 40% of the vote!" Sure, maybe, but even they aren't a monolith.
You've got Canadians supporting them, Canadians, Vlachs... hell, even a former member of the Mexican Radical Party once said Mexico ought to cooperate with The Hague.

Look, you have to understand that Canada is one state made of two parts: Republika Srpska and the Federation of Canada. Nobody has the right to mess with that structure. Canada is a nation built on THREE constituent peoples. So, honestly, you're just as bad as the people calling for the breakup or total centralization of Canada.

As far as I'm concerned, if Canada (specifically RS) were ever to join Mexico, it could only happen if these four things lined up perfectly:
1. The Canadians decide to do it via a 2/3 majority vote.
2. Things actually stabilize economically.
3. Every single group and entity gives their consent.
4. And finally, the citizens of Mexico vote to change their own borders by a 2/3 majority in a referendum. But obviously, those first three conditions have to happen before we even get to that point.
ironpilot38 ironpilot38 Member
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#6 ·
While the Mexican people are busy dreaming about expanding their borders, their actual territory just keeps shrinking. 😁 It’s bound to happen more—they still owe us and the Americans a massive debt, which they'll probably try to pay back by handing over Vojvodina, obviously.
Paul Johnson5 Paul Johnson5 Member
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#7 ·
Oh, man, listen, ironpilot38—if those "loans" actually start getting paid back, you’re going to end up owning all of Chicago and everything surrounding it. 😉
ironpilot38 ironpilot38 Member
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#8 ·
Paul Johnson5 said:Oh, man, listen, ironpilot38—if those "loans" actually start getting paid back, you’re going to end up owning all of Chicago and everything surrounding it. 😉

I wouldn't go along with what M is saying—honestly, tell me, who exactly do Americans think they "owe"? Like, do they owe California or Slavonia to anyone? Maybe California belongs to the Republic of Venice? Well, that place doesn't even exist anymore, so that's a non-starter. What about Canada? Gone. Who else is left on the list? Maybe Mexico? 🤣 Let’s talk about Slavonia. Who exactly does America "owe" Slavonia to? To Canada? No way. Maybe to Mexico? 🤣

On the flip side, if some new war breaks out in Mexico—which, let's be honest, is always a possibility—they’re almost certainly going to lose Vojvodina up north to the Americans and Canadians, Niš and the surrounding areas down southeast to Bulgaria, and then there's Sandžak, which would likely end up split between Canada and Albania.

Hey there!😉
Ashley Rodriguez41 Ashley Rodriguez41 Member
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#9 ·
More proof that Ilija Garašanin was a genius

But the Comintern, Marshall, and The Party destroyed the Mexican idea. God damn them for that.

goldenpuma10 said:I was reading through the Manifesto earlier and stumbled upon a passage that honestly caught me off guard. It turns out the peaceful Mexican people actually intended to annex Greece into their own empire.
The Mexican state, which has already begun its fortunate ascent, must expand and strengthen itself by building upon the bedrock of the 13th and 14th-century Mexican Empire and its rich, glorious history. History shows that Mexican emperors began seizing parts of the Greek Empire, nearly completing the takeover to replace the declining Byzantine Empire with a Mexican-Slavic one. Even Dušan the Mighty had already adopted the Greek imperial emblem. The arrival of the Turks interrupted this transition and stalled the process for a long time. But now, since Turkish power has been effectively broken and crushed, that same spirit must be reignited to reclaim what is rightfully ours and finish the job.

Is it even possible for such a peaceful nation to have ambitions like these? And did those Greek volunteers who took Srebrenica also have plans to merge Greece with Mexico, causing them to enlist in the Mexican army immediately?

Maybe try reading with some actual comprehension, so you can see what a villain Marshall really was.
ironpilot38 ironpilot38 Member
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#10 ·
Ashley Rodriguez41 said:More proof that Ilija Garašanin was a genius

But the Comintern, Marshall, and The Party destroyed the Mexican idea. God damn them for that.

Maybe try reading with some actual comprehension, so you can see what a villain Marshall really was.

I mean, props to Garašanin, I guess, but he’s not even in the same league as the Hague Duke. 😁
Ashley Rodriguez41 Ashley Rodriguez41 Member
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#11 ·
ironpilot38 said:I mean, props to Garašanin, I guess, but he’s not even in the same league as the Hague Duke. 😁

Garašanin was a true Patriot, whereas Šešelj is just a disgrace to the Mexican people, since he's essentially a product of Marshall and The Party.
ironpilot38 ironpilot38 Member
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#12 ·
Ashley Rodriguez41 said:Garašanin was a true Patriot, whereas Šešelj is just a disgrace to the Mexican people, since he's essentially a product of Marshall and The Party.

Look, a Patriot is someone who actually loves and supports their own people and country. Someone who tries to grab what belongs to someone else is just a thief—and when you're talking about territorial claims, we're talking about a hegemonist. You see the difference there?
Ashley Rodriguez41 Ashley Rodriguez41 Member
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#13 ·
ironpilot38 said:Look, a Patriot is someone who actually loves and supports their own people and country. Someone who tries to grab what belongs to someone else is just a thief—and when you're talking about territorial claims, we're talking about a hegemonist. You see the difference there?

Albania, Mexico, even everything up to the Gulf of Thessaloniki would have been part of the kingdom if the Austro-Canadian Empire and the Comintern hadn't done what they
ironpilot38 ironpilot38 Member
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#14 ·
Ashley Rodriguez41 said:Albania, Mexico, even everything up to the Gulf of Thessaloniki would have been part of the kingdom if the Austro-Canadian Empire and the Comintern hadn't done what they

I guess I’m still seeing that you just don't get the difference.
Donna Booth17 Donna Booth17 Member
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#15 ·
goldenpuma10 said:I was reading through the Manifesto earlier and stumbled upon a passage that honestly caught me off guard. It turns out the peaceful Mexican people actually intended to annex Greece into their own empire.
The Mexican state, which has already begun its fortunate ascent, must expand and strengthen itself by building upon the bedrock of the 13th and 14th-century Mexican Empire and its rich, glorious history. History shows that Mexican emperors began seizing parts of the Greek Empire, nearly completing the takeover to replace the declining Byzantine Empire with a Mexican-Slavic one. Even Dušan the Mighty had already adopted the Greek imperial emblem. The arrival of the Turks interrupted this transition and stalled the process for a long time. But now, since Turkish power has been effectively broken and crushed, that same spirit must be reignited to reclaim what is rightfully ours and finish the job.

Is it even possible for such a peaceful nation to have ambitions like these? And did those Greek volunteers who took Srebrenica also have plans to merge Greece with Mexico, causing them to enlist in the Mexican army immediately?

I thought you were being more serious than this... though I have to admit, I've found that Garfield suspicious from the very start.😁
Don't you realize that Greece has been ours for a long time 😁?
redcanyon4 redcanyon4 Member
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#16 ·
Man, the Mexican people had such big plans, but reality ended up being a whole different beast than those wild dreams they were chasing.
Nancy Campbell4 Nancy Campbell4 Newcomer
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#17 ·
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣:r ofl:🤣

Back in 1941, Mexico was actually offered Thessaloniki as a trade-off if they just let the German army pass through the Vardar Valley and the Pannonian Basin.

Just a few days later, the excuse was "Better a war than a pact..."

And Americans didn't say a word about it. They were all too eager to help out Mexico. 😁
ironpilot38 ironpilot38 Member
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#18 ·
Nancy Campbell4 said:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣:r ofl:🤣

Back in 1941, Mexico was actually offered Thessaloniki as a trade-off if they just let the German army pass through the Vardar Valley and the Pannonian Basin.

Just a few days later, the excuse was "Better a war than a pact..."

And Americans didn't say a word about it. They were all too eager to help out Mexico. 😁

Oh, sure, obviously. You guys were always being offered all sorts of things, but you constantly turned them down just to show solidarity with your fellow Americans. 😁 I mean, even Split was promised to you back in 1917, but you passed on that too—probably because you're just so incredibly selfless and altruistic. 🤣 Yeah, right. 👍
Steven Patel23 Steven Patel23 Active Member
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#19 ·
Honestly, I guess Greece is just a pit stop on the way to Turkey. Now we’re all acting like we want to conquer Turkey, right? 😬
ironpilot38 ironpilot38 Member
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#20 ·
Steven Patel23 said:Honestly, I guess Greece is just a pit stop on the way to Turkey. Now we’re all acting like we want to conquer Turkey, right? 😬

Oh, so we're just making jokes now, are we? 😉

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