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Why are Palestinian Arab refugees the only ones still displaced?

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Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Back in 1957, during the Geneva Conference in Syria, a resolution was passed claiming that "Any talk of solving the Palestine problem that doesn't center on the refugees' right to wipe out Israel will be seen as a spit in the face of the Arab people and an act of Treason (Massa, July 15, 1957)."

Even the United Nations gave orders to stop Arab nations from ever giving citizenship to Palestinian Arab refugees (or their kids
), all supposedly "to prevent them from losing their identity and to safeguard their right to go back home."

The Syrian Prime Minister, Khalid al-Azm, admitted the truth in his 1973 memoirs:

Ever since 1948, we’ve been the ones demanding they return [...] even though we were the ones who forced them out. [...] We caused the catastrophe for [...] Palestinian Arab refugees by pressuring them to flee. [...] We turned them into people with nothing. [...] We trained them to live on handouts. [...] We helped degrade their entire social and moral standing. [...] And then, we used them as pawns to carry out murders, arson, and bombings against [...] men, women, and children—all just to serve our own political agendas.

1.) At a 1957 conference for Islamic nations, they passed a resolution stating that:
Any discussion that isn't built on the refugees' right to destroy Israel is considered an insult to the Arab people and an act of Treason. - Now it's crystal clear why every single debate with these extremists always ends up being about how much time is left before they destroy Israel. 😬

2.) The United Nations forbade Arab countries from granting citizenship to Palestinian Arab refugees.

A question for the Muslims in Canada: How many Palestinian refugees have you actually taken in and given a shot at a normal life, unlike the rest of the world that opened its doors to refugees from Canada?

It's a rhetorical question, and let's be honest, we aren't ever going to get an answer. 😍

Number of Jews in Arab countries:
1948: 758,000 - 881,000
Today: <6,500
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#2 ·
Paul Wells17 said:
Back in 1957, during the Geneva Conference in Syria, a resolution was passed claiming that "Any talk of solving the Palestine problem that doesn't center on the refugees' right to wipe out Israel will be seen as a spit in the face of the Arab people and an act of Treason (Massa, July 15, 1957)."

Even the United Nations gave orders to stop Arab nations from ever giving citizenship to Palestinian Arab refugees (or their kids
), all supposedly "to prevent them from losing their identity and to safeguard their right to go back home."

The Syrian Prime Minister, Khalid al-Azm, admitted the truth in his 1973 memoirs:

Ever since 1948, we’ve been the ones demanding they return [...] even though we were the ones who forced them out. [...] We caused the catastrophe for [...] Palestinian Arab refugees by pressuring them to flee. [...] We turned them into people with nothing. [...] We trained them to live on handouts. [...] We helped degrade their entire social and moral standing. [...] And then, we used them as pawns to carry out murders, arson, and bombings against [...] men, women, and children—all just to serve our own political agendas.

1.) At a 1957 conference for Islamic nations, they passed a resolution stating that:
Any discussion that isn't built on the refugees' right to destroy Israel is considered an insult to the Arab people and an act of Treason. - Now it's crystal clear why every single debate with these extremists always ends up being about how much time is left before they destroy Israel. 😬

2.) The United Nations forbade Arab countries from granting citizenship to Palestinian Arab refugees.

A question for the Muslims in Canada: How many Palestinian refugees have you actually taken in and given a shot at a normal life, unlike the rest of the world that opened its doors to refugees from Canada?

It's a rhetorical question, and let's be honest, we aren't ever going to get an answer. 😍

Number of Jews in Arab countries:
1948: 758,000 - 881,000
Today: <6,500


Personally, I’m all for letting refugees go back to where they came from. It's like, if we want to make things right, we should let Jews return to those Arab countries if that's what they want, and at the same time, allow Palestinians to move into the territory of Israel.👍
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
David Rogers18 said:Personally, I’m all for letting refugees go back to where they came from. It's like, if we want to make things right, we should let Jews return to those Arab countries if that's what they want, and at the same time, allow Palestinians to move into the territory of Israel.👍

Well, I’d say you're done playing musical chairs with Jewish relocation. Sorry, baby, go tell Grandpa off. 😍
Kenneth Jackson30 Kenneth Jackson30 Member
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#4 ·
David Rogers18 said:Personally, I’m all for letting refugees go back to where they came from. It's like, if we want to make things right, we should let Jews return to those Arab countries if that's what they want, and at the same time, allow Palestinians to move into the territory of Israel.👍

Fair enough.👍
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#5 ·
Paul Wells17 said:Well, I’d say you're done playing musical chairs with Jewish relocation. Sorry, baby, go tell Grandpa off. 😍

But anyway, you're out here claiming that about two-thirds of the Jews living in Israel actually come from Jewish communities in Arab countries.

So, you're saying back in 1948, there were roughly 800,000 Jews living in those Arab nations.

Fast forward to today, and there are 5.4 million Jews in Israel, which basically means that two-thirds—or about 3.6 million people—must have roots tracing back to those Arab countries.

I mean, just think about the math for a second; what kind of birth rate would you need to jump from 800,000 people to 3.6 million in just a 60-year span?
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
David Rogers18 said:But anyway, you're out here claiming that about two-thirds of the Jews living in Israel actually come from Jewish communities in Arab countries.

So, you're saying back in 1948, there were roughly 800,000 Jews living in those Arab nations.

Fast forward to today, and there are 5.4 million Jews in Israel, which basically means that two-thirds—or about 3.6 million people—must have roots tracing back to those Arab countries.

I mean, just think about the math for a second; what kind of birth rate would you need to jump from 800,000 people to 3.6 million in just a 60-year span?

lower than the "Palestinian" 😬
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
Kenneth Jackson30 said:Fair enough.👍

Did anyone ever actually offer them a different way out? 😉

I mean, besides just wiping Israel off the map like the Muslim Brotherhood demands...☕
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#8 ·
Paul Wells17 said:lower than the "Palestinian" 😬

Wow, you sure have done your homework, haven't you?

So, we're looking at how 800,000 people back in 1948 grew into about 3.6 million descendants today.

And I was just reading that European Jews actually make up the majority of the Jewish population in Israel, which pretty much flips what you were saying about Jews from Arab countries making up two-thirds of the population there.

Also, why the air quotes around "Palestinians"?

If anyone deserves the quotation marks, it’s those "Israelis" coming all the way from the Amazon, Ethiopia, China, Peru, or Nigeria.😂
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#9 ·
Paul Wells17 said:Did anyone ever actually offer them a different way out? 😉

I mean, besides just wiping Israel off the map like the Muslim Brotherhood demands...☕

Well, that's a totally valid point. If a Nigerian man and a Chinese person of the Jewish faith can travel all the way to the Middle East and claim that Palestine is the land their ancient ancestors were kicked out of😂, then this situation is just as legitimate.
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#10 ·
David Rogers18 said:Well, that's a totally valid point. If a Nigerian man and a Chinese person of the Jewish faith can travel all the way to the Middle East and claim that Palestine is the land their ancient ancestors were kicked out of😂, then this situation is just as legitimate.

I’d say you inherited that talent for drawing conclusions from a grandfather who was a Nazi, by your own admission, but... seriously, can you just answer the question for once? 😍
Olivia Sanders24 Olivia Sanders24 Member
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#11 ·
David Rogers18 said:Wow, you sure have done your homework, haven't you?

So, we're looking at how 800,000 people back in 1948 grew into about 3.6 million descendants today.

And I was just reading that European Jews actually make up the majority of the Jewish population in Israel, which pretty much flips what you were saying about Jews from Arab countries making up two-thirds of the population there.

Also, why the air quotes around "Palestinians"?

If anyone deserves the quotation marks, it’s those "Israelis" coming all the way from the Amazon, Ethiopia, China, Peru, or Nigeria.😂

The whole idea of a "Palestinian" nationality—well, it just didn't exist before 1968. ☕

Up until then, they simply identified as Arabs.
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#12 ·
Paul Wells17 said:I’d say you inherited that talent for drawing conclusions from a grandfather who was a Nazi, by your own admission, but... seriously, can you just answer the question for once? 😍

My grandfather was an extremist just as much as yours was👍.

So, why don't you walk me through that whole thing about the percentage of Jews from Arab countries living in the Israeli population?

You're honestly making yourself look pretty ridiculous here, and since you always claim to be such a well-read and informed guy, that's a pretty embarrassing look to have.
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#13 ·
Olivia Sanders24 said:The whole idea of a "Palestinian" nationality—well, it just didn't exist before 1968. ☕

Up until then, they simply identified as Arabs.

And what about being "Israeli"? Are you seriously trying to tell me that Jews from Russia or Europe used to go around calling themselves Israelis?
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#14 ·
So, our friend David Rogers18 is dodging the actual question again, doing his usual routine of changing the subject 🤣

Dear moderators, could you please step in and penalize this constant off-topic rambling in this thread?

Thanks.
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#15 ·
Paul Wells17 said:So, our friend David Rogers18 is dodging the actual question again, doing his usual routine of changing the subject 🤣

Dear moderators, could you please step in and penalize this constant off-topic rambling in this thread?

Thanks.

I already pointed out that the opening post was spreading some total misinformation.

Honestly, why should we even waste our breath debating stuff that's clearly just made up?
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#16 ·
From the opening post:

Just so we're all on the same page, about two-thirds of the Jewish population in Israel today actually traces their roots back to Jews who were forced out of Muslim countries.
The number of Jews living in Arab nations:
1948: 758,000 - 881,000
today: <6,500


So, it’s really important to look at how we went from 800,000 Jews to 3.6 million Jews in just 60 years.
Olivia Sanders24 Olivia Sanders24 Member
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#17 ·
David Rogers18 said:And what about being "Israeli"? Are you seriously trying to tell me that Jews from Russia or Europe used to go around calling themselves Israelis?

Well, Jews used to refer to themselves as "children of Israel," while everyone else just called them Jews.

As for the Arabs living in the regions covering Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria—they all identified simply as Arabs. It wasn't until after the 1967 war that the whole concept of a "Palestinian" nationality really started being pushed through propaganda...

But honestly, you already know all this—you're just trolling at this point... 🙄
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#18 ·
So, back in the 90s, Israel actually offered the Palestinian West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem to create an independent state, provided they signed a peace treaty and recognized Israel's existing borders...
But those guys shot it down immediately...
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#19 ·
David Rogers18 said:I already pointed out that the opening post was spreading some total misinformation.

Honestly, why should we even waste our breath debating stuff that's clearly just made up?

Well, now that it’s been wiped clean, why don't you go ahead and start a new thread about the Israeli birth rate? If you even know how to open a topic...🙂

Moderators, please scrub this off-topic garbage. It’s cluttering the board.

Thanks.
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#20 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:So, back in the 90s, Israel actually offered the Palestinian West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem to create an independent state, provided they signed a peace treaty and recognized Israel's existing borders...
But those guys shot it down immediately...

To this day, they have rejected every single peace deal on the table.

Like they say themselves—anything short of destroying Israel is off the table.

Yet, the very fact that Israel exists proves the Quran isn't divine revelation.☕

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