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Getting rid of Bajs will be easy, but how do we deal with Bago?

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dustyscout53 dustyscout53 RegularOP
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#1 ·
I've been wondering—who actually holds journalists accountable? Is there even a real way to check them?

Right now, it feels like any reporter can just launch an attack on whoever they want, regardless of whether they’re actually telling the truth or not.

Honestly, criticizing the media feels like an attack on democracy sometimes—probably because we're still stuck in old ways of thinking. Journalists have basically become untouchable, almost like the Church used to be.

Like, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times can claim that America doesn't need a Secretary of Commerce who grew up in some tiny rural town, but you'll rarely see anyone call out a columnist for, say, barely scraping through middle school with failing grades.

We get to swap out politicians every four years through voting, sure, but journalists? They only get replaced if their boss decides to let them go—and those decisions are usually based on much shadier motives.

Is there any kind of actual safeguard to protect us from bad journalism?
dustyscout53 dustyscout53 RegularOP
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#2 ·
I mean, it took us months just to switch from calling someone a war criminal to saying they were merely SUSPECTED of one. And did any editors lose their jobs? Not a single one. God forbid we actually demand accountability from the press—we’d be branded as anti-democratic extremists overnight.

Or take Britney Spears... Heaven forbid anyone wonders why her face is plastered on every front page. We'd be viewed as even bigger enemies of freedom than the leadership in Iran...
northernbison63 northernbison63 Active Member
122 messages
joined Apr 2007
#3 ·
dustyscout53 said:I've been wondering—who actually holds journalists accountable? Is there even a real way to check them?

Right now, it feels like any reporter can just launch an attack on whoever they want, regardless of whether they’re actually telling the truth or not.

Honestly, criticizing the media feels like an attack on democracy sometimes—probably because we're still stuck in old ways of thinking. Journalists have basically become untouchable, almost like the Church used to be.

Like, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times can claim that America doesn't need a Secretary of Commerce who grew up in some tiny rural town, but you'll rarely see anyone call out a columnist for, say, barely scraping through middle school with failing grades.

We get to swap out politicians every four years through voting, sure, but journalists? They only get replaced if their boss decides to let them go—and those decisions are usually based on much shadier motives.

Is there any kind of actual safeguard to protect us from bad journalism?

dustyscout53, man! You finally showed up!

Have you recovered yet from all those women and all that cash? Because if you have, it probably means you're already missing at least one or two of them. 😉

So, what's the actual question here—are you saying journalists who failed their college classes are better than politicians who got straight A's from the IMF? Come on, clarify yourself, you're being totally vague. 😬
Angela Torres78 Angela Torres78 Newcomer
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#4 ·
I... what’s actually the point of this thread, other than some guy from a blog who thinks he's a real journalist asking questions that don't even make sense?🤷
Roger Reed49 Roger Reed49 Active Member
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#5 ·
dustyscout53 said:I've been wondering—who actually holds journalists accountable? Is there even a real way to check them?

Right now, it feels like any reporter can just launch an attack on whoever they want, regardless of whether they’re actually telling the truth or not.

Honestly, criticizing the media feels like an attack on democracy sometimes—probably because we're still stuck in old ways of thinking. Journalists have basically become untouchable, almost like the Church used to be.

Like, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times can claim that America doesn't need a Secretary of Commerce who grew up in some tiny rural town, but you'll rarely see anyone call out a columnist for, say, barely scraping through middle school with failing grades.

We get to swap out politicians every four years through voting, sure, but journalists? They only get replaced if their boss decides to let them go—and those decisions are usually based on much shadier motives.

Is there any kind of actual safeguard to protect us from bad journalism?

Man... he saw right through it.😁

But seriously, how are you supposed to easily get rid of a guy like that? He basically runs things. And honestly? He loves it.
silenthawk11 silenthawk11 Regular
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joined Apr 2007
#6 ·
What is a journalist supposed to say now? Back when the sugar kings ruled the world, they were practically gods... 😕
rapidcyclist37 rapidcyclist37 Newcomer
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#7 ·
dustyscout53 said:I've been wondering—who actually holds journalists accountable? Is there even a real way to check them?

Right now, it feels like any reporter can just launch an attack on whoever they want, regardless of whether they’re actually telling the truth or not.

Honestly, criticizing the media feels like an attack on democracy sometimes—probably because we're still stuck in old ways of thinking. Journalists have basically become untouchable, almost like the Church used to be.

Like, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times can claim that America doesn't need a Secretary of Commerce who grew up in some tiny rural town, but you'll rarely see anyone call out a columnist for, say, barely scraping through middle school with failing grades.

We get to swap out politicians every four years through voting, sure, but journalists? They only get replaced if their boss decides to let them go—and those decisions are usually based on much shadier motives.

Is there any kind of actual safeguard to protect us from bad journalism?

Well, there isn't just one single entity, but rather a whole framework of regulations at play, including the Communications Act, specific laws governing public broadcasters like PBS, and several others that I can't quite recall off the top of my head. Beyond the legal side, you also have various journalistic standards to consider, such as ethical codes and professional conduct guidelines. If you ever feel like a reporter has insulted you, caused you actual harm, or outright lied about you, you always have the option to take them to court, don't you?
shadowridge14 shadowridge14 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#8 ·
Good luck trying to scrub Winehouse, Spears, Cruise, or those local lifestyle mags out of the daily news...
If you can pull that off, I’ll buy you a case of Budweiser, a mountain of BBQ ribs, and an Imotski jersey featuring the Gojko and Jure logo...
silentridge3 silentridge3 Active Member
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#9 ·
dustyscout53 said:I've been wondering—who actually holds journalists accountable? Is there even a real way to check them?

Right now, it feels like any reporter can just launch an attack on whoever they want, regardless of whether they’re actually telling the truth or not.

Honestly, criticizing the media feels like an attack on democracy sometimes—probably because we're still stuck in old ways of thinking. Journalists have basically become untouchable, almost like the Church used to be.

Like, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times can claim that America doesn't need a Secretary of Commerce who grew up in some tiny rural town, but you'll rarely see anyone call out a columnist for, say, barely scraping through middle school with failing grades.

We get to swap out politicians every four years through voting, sure, but journalists? They only get replaced if their boss decides to let them go—and those decisions are usually based on much shadier motives.

Is there any kind of actual safeguard to protect us from bad journalism?


Sadly, I think we've reached this point where journalism has turned into a "waiter" situation. Just like how every American seems to be born with a degree in hospitality—if you follow my logic—it feels like everyone just automatically assumes they have a degree in journalism too.

Having mediocre grades in college wouldn't even be such a massive issue if the selection process for journalists was actually handled by high-quality, experienced, and honest editors, but that's probably asking too much.

Bago is just a nasty piece of work, and since he basically had zero competition during the late nineties, he managed to pull off that whole "from college straight to Congress" trajectory.
Carl Hill6 Carl Hill6 Member
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#10 ·
Bring on Bago, Latin is better anyway
It could work both ways
😵
Arthur Martinez7 Arthur Martinez7 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#11 ·
Well, now, isn't that just a bit of a chuckle? One can't help but smile at such a spontaneous outburst of mirth, can one? It truly makes one wonder what sparked such a sudden moment of levity. As stated by:
Good grief... she’s finally seeing clearly.😁

It seems it would have taken a journalist to actually shine a spotlight on Des Moines before anyone bothered to take notice. 😁
dustyscout53 dustyscout53 RegularOP
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#12 ·
Arthur Martinez7 said:
Well, now, isn't that just a bit of a chuckle? One can't help but smile at such a spontaneous outburst of mirth, can one? It truly makes one wonder what sparked such a sudden moment of levity. As stated by:
Good grief... she’s finally seeing clearly.😁

It seems it would have taken a journalist to actually shine a spotlight on Des Moines before anyone bothered to take notice. 😁

Des Moines is gonna lead us straight into Europe. Honestly, who knew we shouldn't have waited this long to put someone from Des Moines in the Administration? We would’ve been part of the global scene ages ago.

But seriously—all jokes aside—that weird little local chauvinism directed at Bajs really bugs me. It’s like people think he doesn't meet some genetic requirement to be the Secretary of Commerce. As if the main qualification should just be being born in Florida or California.

Look, guys, let’s face the music here—if people from Florida or California actually knew what they were doing, our tourism industry wouldn't be where it is today... it might even be a bit better.

What does a guy from Florida know about the ocean? He probably thinks it's just one giant toilet for when he needs to go, for crying out loud.

You know that old saying—Florida would be great if it weren't for all those Floridians...

Oops—was that the same kind of local chauvinism I was just complaining about the journalists for?

😁 😁 🙂
Arthur Martinez7 Arthur Martinez7 Active Member
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#13 ·
That’s just how Fox News works; they bring on one Des Moines resident, and suddenly hundreds of people are swarming them. 😁 Oops, looks like Đurđa is in the mix too. 😲 At this point, it’s practically an invasion. 😲

Don't get me wrong, I am all for bringing more attention to the less fortunate and overlooked parts of the country, but using someone from Des Moines like this feels like a bit much. 🙏
silentridge3 silentridge3 Active Member
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#14 ·
Look, guys,
this whole thread feels like it’s just overflowing with chauvinism and this weird, petty regional bickering that we really don't need.
Maybe everyone could just take a breath and chill out for a second.
Alex Thomas6 Alex Thomas6 Newcomer
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#15 ·
dustyscout53 said:Des Moines is gonna lead us straight into Europe. Honestly, who knew we shouldn't have waited this long to put someone from Des Moines in the Administration? We would’ve been part of the global scene ages ago.

But seriously—all jokes aside—that weird little local chauvinism directed at Bajs really bugs me. It’s like people think he doesn't meet some genetic requirement to be the Secretary of Commerce. As if the main qualification should just be being born in Florida or California.

Look, guys, let’s face the music here—if people from Florida or California actually knew what they were doing, our tourism industry wouldn't be where it is today... it might even be a bit better.

What does a guy from Florida know about the ocean? He probably thinks it's just one giant toilet for when he needs to go, for crying out loud.

You know that old saying—Florida would be great if it weren't for all those Floridians...

Oops—was that the same kind of local chauvinism I was just complaining about the journalists for?

😁 😁 🙂


Outsiders shouldn't be running the tourism department, and honestly, maybe they shouldn't even show up at the coast as tourists because they just cause chaos.
If your grandmother didn't spend her life renting out beach houses, and instead sent you to sleep in some rustic roadside inn for two months every summer, you can't claim to understand the tourism business...
If you're from the Midwest instead of the coast, it means you've spent your whole life wandering through cornfields and soy patches while those coastal types were busy training to become semi-literate journalists for the Los Angeles Times... yeah, some things are just innate.
🙄
darkcanyon13 darkcanyon13 Member
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#16 ·
dustyscout53 said:I've been wondering—who actually holds journalists accountable? Is there even a real way to check them?

Right now, it feels like any reporter can just launch an attack on whoever they want, regardless of whether they’re actually telling the truth or not.

Honestly, criticizing the media feels like an attack on democracy sometimes—probably because we're still stuck in old ways of thinking. Journalists have basically become untouchable, almost like the Church used to be.

Like, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times can claim that America doesn't need a Secretary of Commerce who grew up in some tiny rural town, but you'll rarely see anyone call out a columnist for, say, barely scraping through middle school with failing grades.

We get to swap out politicians every four years through voting, sure, but journalists? They only get replaced if their boss decides to let them go—and those decisions are usually based on much shadier motives.

Is there any kind of actual safeguard to protect us from bad journalism?


😂🤣😂🤣😂

Now I see what's bothering you— nobody dares to mess with you in Des Moines! 😂
darkcanyon13 darkcanyon13 Member
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#17 ·
silenthawk11 said:What is a journalist supposed to say now? Back when the sugar kings ruled the world, they were practically gods... 😕

Bajs is from Des Moines, just like pretty much half the government (Jandroković 🤣, Đurđa). 😉 First they took over FOX, and then they used that same influence to seize our beautiful country. 😱 Honestly, people from Des Moines lose their minds whenever anyone dares to criticize one of their own, even someone like Jandroković. 😂🤣😂
Arthur Martinez7 Arthur Martinez7 Active Member
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#18 ·
Đizs, I completely blanked on mentioning Jandroković, but honestly, this whole situation is even more terrifying than 😱 🙂
darkcanyon13 darkcanyon13 Member
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joined Dec 2005
#19 ·
Arthur Martinez7 said:That’s just how Fox News works; they bring on one Des Moines resident, and suddenly hundreds of people are swarming them. 😁 Oops, looks like Đurđa is in the mix too. 😲 At this point, it’s practically an invasion. 😲

Don't get me wrong, I am all for bringing more attention to the less fortunate and overlooked parts of the country, but using someone from Des Moines like this feels like a bit much. 🙏


Arthur Martinez7 said:That’s just how Fox News works; they bring on one Des Moines resident, and suddenly hundreds of people are swarming them. 😁 Oops, looks like Đurđa is in the mix too. 😲 At this point, it’s practically an invasion. 😲

Don't get me wrong, I am all for bringing more attention to the less fortunate and overlooked parts of the country, but using someone from Des Moines like this feels like a bit much. 🙏

Ouch.Honestly, you guys have already covered just about everything. There isn't much left to say. 😳

P.S.
You totally forgot about Jandroković. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
darkcanyon13 darkcanyon13 Member
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#20 ·
Arthur Martinez7 said:Đizs, I completely blanked on mentioning Jandroković, but honestly, this whole situation is even more terrifying than 😱 🙂


I guess this is my karma for making fun of Walter back in the day—now we're all going to be sitting here blushing because this is the kind of guy representing us on the world stage. 😳 🙂🙂🙂

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