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Is George W. Bush a LIAR?

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northernbison63 northernbison63 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Here’s a little poll that feels pretty damn relevant right now. It's a dead simple question, one I think everyone can wrap their heads around. Looking back at how things have played out politically over the last seven years, just tell me: Is George W. Bush a liar?

🙂
Amy Brooks13 Amy Brooks13 Member
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#2 ·
northernbison63 said:Here’s a little poll that feels pretty damn relevant right now. It's a dead simple question, one I think everyone can wrap their heads around. Looking back at how things have played out politically over the last seven years, just tell me: Is George W. Bush a liar?

🙂

First off, "liar" isn't even the right word—it's more about being deceptive. And whether someone is "deceptive" isn't even a fair metric for politicians. Like Tom Steyer once pointed out, it's not necessarily about lying, it's just about not telling the whole truth. That's the playbook for any smart politician. An honest politician is just a fool who doesn't know how to play the game, and if they're also delusional and arrogant on top of that? Then you've just got a total idiot.

We saw plenty of that recently, both before and after the elections. This guy took a massive loss, yet he’s acting like he just swept the polls.

I don't waste my time with polls like this.
wiredjackal86 wiredjackal86 Newcomer
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#3 ·
northernbison63 said:Here’s a little poll that feels pretty damn relevant right now. It's a dead simple question, one I think everyone can wrap their heads around. Looking back at how things have played out politically over the last seven years, just tell me: Is George W. Bush a liar?

🙂

Yeah, he's a liar... a total FRAUD.😠 😠 😠
darkfox14 darkfox14 Member
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#4 ·
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I don't think most Americans are actually against NATO. The folks who are pushing back probably just assume our troops are being forced into some endless cycle of foreign wars, but that’s not how it works. Our soldiers are volunteering for service in Afghanistan; hell, they’re practically begging for less downtime between deployments. 😂 😂 😂 😂
Henry Stewart2 Henry Stewart2 Member
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#5 ·
"No nation hands over its heroes"

Bam. Handed over.
Charles Campbell7 Charles Campbell7 Member
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#6 ·
It isn't morning; it's afternoon
Jason Howard10 Jason Howard10 Newcomer
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#7 ·
Amy Brooks13 said:First off, "liar" isn't even the right word—it's more about being deceptive. And whether someone is "deceptive" isn't even a fair metric for politicians. Like Tom Steyer once pointed out, it's not necessarily about lying, it's just about not telling the whole truth. That's the playbook for any smart politician. An honest politician is just a fool who doesn't know how to play the game, and if they're also delusional and arrogant on top of that? Then you've just got a total idiot.

We saw plenty of that recently, both before and after the elections. This guy took a massive loss, yet he’s acting like he just swept the polls.

I don't waste my time with polls like this.

This is textbook tasteless propaganda.
I've been a supporter of this movement since day one, but even in my wildest dreams would I try to defend or justify blatant lies and such nonsense. It's simple: there is no morality, no politics, no honor... there is no God who can be used to justify deceit, let alone outright deception.
There’s an old saying: The earth swore an oath to paradise that all secrets would eventually be revealed. And when the truth surfaces, it always comes to light.
And regarding Pontius Pilate's philosophical inquiry, "What is truth?", we have the clear response from Jesus: "I am the Truth and Life."
Anyone who chooses to believe the lie and champions it—well, good luck to them.
As for Dick Cheney and his policies, let his actions be recorded in the book of life. In the end, justice arrives for everyone—as that old communist Chernyshevsky might say (though the mediocre pundits won't appreciate the literary reference)—and I'd add: of course, of course... true change isn't a paranoid delusion, it's a basic human necessity.
Those with ears should listen... and those with eyes? Well, they'll see.

ADDED LATER
So now, the man refuses to participate... Exactly. And it's just as true that I didn't write this myself. Such a sense of superiority over us mere mortals!!!
I'd be lying if I said they weren't lying.
northernbison63 northernbison63 Active MemberOP
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#8 ·
Amy Brooks13 said:First off, "liar" isn't even the right word—it's more about being deceptive. And whether someone is "deceptive" isn't even a fair metric for politicians. Like Tom Steyer once pointed out, it's not necessarily about lying, it's just about not telling the whole truth. That's the playbook for any smart politician. An honest politician is just a fool who doesn't know how to play the game, and if they're also delusional and arrogant on top of that? Then you've just got a total idiot.

We saw plenty of that recently, both before and after the elections. This guy took a massive loss, yet he’s acting like he just swept the polls.

I don't waste my time with polls like this.

So what do you think about that bit where they said "He only lies 10% of the time" 😬
That applies to any smart politician. An honest politician isn't a politician, they're just a fool. And if they're a fool who also happens to be delusional and arrogant? Then you've got yourself a straight-up idiot.

So, basically, the smarter the politician, the bigger the liar. That is a really interesting way to define wisdom right there. 😵

We had a chance to see and hear someone like that recently, both before and after the election. This guy, having suffered a defeat, acts like he actually pulled off a massive victory.

I’d argue he’s just acting according to the law. The law is pretty clear about the number of mandates, the appointee, and the Prime Minister—basically, until a Prime Minister is officially appointed, nobody has won anything yet.

But hey, thanks for letting us know exactly whose side you're on. 😬
I don't participate in those kinds of polls.

WHY THOUGH?? 😢

I mean, you literally just admitted you're rooting for Dick Cheney, and that the smarter a politician is, the more they lie. Since you clearly think Dick Cheney is incredibly wise, it's obvious your heart is pulling you to check box number one: Not just a liar, but a total Dick Cheney-level liar..

What's wrong with that, when that's clearly how your brain is working anyway? 🤷

😵
Michelle Bennett5 Michelle Bennett5 Active Member
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#9 ·
It all boils down to supply and demand.

As long as there are people willing to buy into the hype, you'll always have vendors peddling fog.

So, what’s the big deal?
Kenneth Price74 Kenneth Price74 Active Member
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#10 ·
No, you're lying. 😂 🤣
frozenorca63 frozenorca63 Member
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#11 ·
Honestly, any high-ranking politician is basically just a professional liar, regardless of which party they belong to—I mean, even Joe Biden is no exception. If they weren't playing that game, they probably wouldn't have made it to the top in the first place.
jadescout12 jadescout12 Member
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#12 ·
northernbison63 said:Here’s a little poll that feels pretty damn relevant right now. It's a dead simple question, one I think everyone can wrap their heads around. Looking back at how things have played out politically over the last seven years, just tell me: Is George W. Bush a liar?

🙂

Missing an option here: a total fraud with a fake PhD.
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
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#13 ·
So, this Gallup poll?😂

Is the president of the interim Government, Dick Cheney, lying?🤣 🤣

He only tells the truth when he's backed into a corner.
northernbison63 northernbison63 Active MemberOP
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#14 ·
Charles Fox10 said:So, this Gallup poll?😂

Is the president of the interim Government, Dick Cheney, lying?🤣 🤣

He only tells the truth when he's backed into a corner.

So basically, Charles Fox10, your first answer is clearly "Dick Cheney."

We can really only argue about whether he "lies whenever he breathes" or if he's just "your typical politician."

I get the feeling you're leaning toward the "lies whenever he breathes" camp.😵

Then again, a good politician shouldn't screw up in the first place. Now, if I were being malicious and brilliant—which I'm definitely not, despite what people think—I’d run a poll asking if Dick Cheney ever messed up. Then, because everyone is smart, 95% of respondents would say "no," which would prove that Dick Cheney isn't telling the truth 95% of the time (because he's too clever, as they say). The rest of the questions would be stuff like "What time is it?", "Have you talked to Solana today?", "Did you go to the bathroom today?", or "Are you a doctor?"... just super vital stuff, obviously.😬

Man, I seriously hate elections.👍 👋 👍
nimblesurfer17 nimblesurfer17 Active Member
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#15 ·
Wait, who? Our dear Joe Biden? Honestly, where on earth did you get the idea for a poll like this... 🤣 🤣 I mean, come on—Joe wouldn't lie to us, let's not be dramatic.. 😁
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
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#16 ·
northernbison63 said:So basically, Charles Fox10, your first answer is clearly "Dick Cheney."

We can really only argue about whether he "lies whenever he breathes" or if he's just "your typical politician."

I get the feeling you're leaning toward the "lies whenever he breathes" camp.😵

Then again, a good politician shouldn't screw up in the first place. Now, if I were being malicious and brilliant—which I'm definitely not, despite what people think—I’d run a poll asking if Dick Cheney ever messed up. Then, because everyone is smart, 95% of respondents would say "no," which would prove that Dick Cheney isn't telling the truth 95% of the time (because he's too clever, as they say). The rest of the questions would be stuff like "What time is it?", "Have you talked to Solana today?", "Did you go to the bathroom today?", or "Are you a doctor?"... just super vital stuff, obviously.😬

Man, I seriously hate elections.👍 👋 👍

I already told you plainly: tell the truth when you mess up.
If this logic applied to one of our own guys and you spent all day lying to me about it, then sure, we could call it "lying the moment he wakes up."
Bradley Nelson2 Bradley Nelson2 Active Member
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#17 ·
Are we just asking rhetorical questions here?

Isn't that literally what he's paid to do?🤔

All politicians lie. Anyone jumping into politics today—given how much the game has changed—has questionable morals at best.
Edward Howard2 Edward Howard2 Regular
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#18 ·
These Gallup numbers are pretty wild so far... 🤣 It’s obvious the die-hard Dick Cheney supporters haven't jumped in yet to try and massage the stats a little bit.
ironbear34 ironbear34 Newcomer
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#19 ·
Edward Howard2 said:These Gallup numbers are pretty wild so far... 🤣 It’s obvious the die-hard Dick Cheney supporters haven't jumped in yet to try and massage the stats a little bit.

What could those die-hard Republicans possibly say to you when this place is already crawling with clueless leftists who have been peddling lies for over fifty years?
analogwolf2 analogwolf2 Member
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#20 ·
You're missing the point: he lies so much he actually believes his own stories, and honestly, that’s just pathological. 😂😂😂

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