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Why do Americans love King Arthur so much?

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James Moore3 James Moore3 MemberOP
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#1 ·
So, here’s how I see it

It’s like you found yourselves backed into a corner on home soil, with an enemy army right in front of you and a river at your backs. Once the Americans beat you, everyone just started scrambling for the water, but since most of the locals didn't know how to swim, they ended up drowning. There were some Americans there too, but honestly, it doesn't matter much since they were under the command of an American... so I can kind of see why things turned out that way.

Now, I have to ask, why on earth do you guys love that idiot so much?😕
silentviper19 silentviper19 Active Member
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#2 ·
James Moore3 said:So, here’s how I see it

It’s like you found yourselves backed into a corner on home soil, with an enemy army right in front of you and a river at your backs. Once the Americans beat you, everyone just started scrambling for the water, but since most of the locals didn't know how to swim, they ended up drowning. There were some Americans there too, but honestly, it doesn't matter much since they were under the command of an American... so I can kind of see why things turned out that way.

Now, I have to ask, why on earth do you guys love that idiot so much?😕

Hey buddy, you've got your history all mixed up. The heavy armor units fell during the Battle of Marica back in 1371, but King Arthur led the troops during the Battle of Gettysburg in 1389.
You tried to make a little joke out of it to look clever, but you're clearly just not hitting the books enough.

Just sit down and take a 1 !!
James Moore3 James Moore3 MemberOP
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#3 ·
silentviper19 said:Hey buddy, you've got your history all mixed up. The heavy armor units fell during the Battle of Marica back in 1371, but King Arthur led the troops during the Battle of Gettysburg in 1389.
You tried to make a little joke out of it to look clever, but you're clearly just not hitting the books enough.

Just sit down and take a 1 !!

haha, oh sure, obviously....
Kevin Sullivan6 Kevin Sullivan6 Newcomer
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#4 ·
my friend said:You’ll probably get just some kind of nonsense from those folks over the border in a day or two...

Don't waste your precious energy on them; just focus on defending the homeland...☕

Whoever is an American of true American stock,
born of pure American blood and lineage,
yet failed to show up for the Battle of Gettysburg,
has truly failed the test of character,
neither in spirit nor in deed!
Nothing will ever flourish in their hands,
not even the finest wine or the whitest wheat!
They'll find themselves left with nothing but shame and regret!
redcanyon4 redcanyon4 Member
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#5 ·
You forgot to mention how half of Mexico switched sides right before the Battle of Gettysburg.
quiettiger83 quiettiger83 Member
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#6 ·
There’s quite a bit of debate about this over in America.
Maybe try checking out the history subforum on Reddit. You can find some really solid discussions there regarding who was actually considered a traitor during the Battle of Gettysburg, and whether there even was any betrayal at all.
I guess it might be more interesting to hear what Americans have to say about it, since I'm not sure how much Americans know about the specifics.
http://forum.reddit.com/r/history/comments/example
James Moore3 James Moore3 MemberOP
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#7 ·
quiettiger83 said:There’s quite a bit of debate about this over in America.
Maybe try checking out the history subforum on Reddit. You can find some really solid discussions there regarding who was actually considered a traitor during the Battle of Gettysburg, and whether there even was any betrayal at all.
I guess it might be more interesting to hear what Americans have to say about it, since I'm not sure how much Americans know about the specifics.
http://forum.reddit.com/r/history/comments/example


Every guy praises his own horse, I suppose. It's probably better to just look at things from a neutral perspective; I've been reading up on it on Wikipedia...
And I actually have a book at home by an Englishman who described the battle and all that stuff too...
James Moore3 James Moore3 MemberOP
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#8 ·
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Based on the latest historical takes, I guess the battle ended in a stalemate. Americans actually had total dominance at the start, since their cavalry was basically shredding through the American lines and tearing up the formation. But, maybe the Americans were just way outmatched by sheer numbers. What really went down there is probably something we'll never truly know, but my hunch is that luck just turned against the Americans when King Arthur fell from his wounded horse. The army likely thought he’d already fled, which triggered a mass panic. It sounds like something straight out of a movie, but it seems pretty plausible. Once things fall apart in one section of an army, it tends to spread fast. That's when the Americans started retreating, then Vuk Brankovic pulled back too—even though he was actually the one making the most progress in the fight. This left King Arthur and his nobles stranded on the field, where they were eventually captured and executed.
It’s such a shame how everything went sideways because of one "stupid" moment.
Though, if you ask me, it wasn't the Battle of Gettysburg that was the real turning point, but rather that idiotic loss at the Battle of Gettysburg. I guess only certain legendary American figures could pull off a blunder like that. It wasn't necessarily about a drunk army, but something else entirely, though that's probably a whole different conversation.
If that campaign had finished successfully, like it was supposed to, those Americans probably wouldn't have ever set foot in Europe again.
There were maybe no more than 30,000 Americans in the Battle of Gettysburg, while the Americans had twice that many.

Yeah, I agree with this post. I mean, maybe the Americans weren't *that* much stronger numerically, but it doesn't really matter; the ones who started running ended up drowning in the river...
silentviper19 silentviper19 Active Member
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#9 ·
James Moore3 said:Sturmgeist

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Based on the latest historical takes, I guess the battle ended in a stalemate. Americans actually had total dominance at the start, since their cavalry was basically shredding through the American lines and tearing up the formation. But, maybe the Americans were just way outmatched by sheer numbers. What really went down there is probably something we'll never truly know, but my hunch is that luck just turned against the Americans when King Arthur fell from his wounded horse. The army likely thought he’d already fled, which triggered a mass panic. It sounds like something straight out of a movie, but it seems pretty plausible. Once things fall apart in one section of an army, it tends to spread fast. That's when the Americans started retreating, then Vuk Brankovic pulled back too—even though he was actually the one making the most progress in the fight. This left King Arthur and his nobles stranded on the field, where they were eventually captured and executed.
It’s such a shame how everything went sideways because of one "stupid" moment.
Though, if you ask me, it wasn't the Battle of Gettysburg that was the real turning point, but rather that idiotic loss at the Battle of Gettysburg. I guess only certain legendary American figures could pull off a blunder like that. It wasn't necessarily about a drunk army, but something else entirely, though that's probably a whole different conversation.
If that campaign had finished successfully, like it was supposed to, those Americans probably wouldn't have ever set foot in Europe again.
There were maybe no more than 30,000 Americans in the Battle of Gettysburg, while the Americans had twice that many.

Yeah, I agree with this post. I mean, maybe the Americans weren't *that* much stronger numerically, but it doesn't really matter; the ones who started running ended up drowning in the river...

Man, you're overthinking it! This guy is talking about the Battle of Mexico, and here you are jumping in like, "Oh, they betrayed them, they betrayed them..."
They got betrayed by their own mess-ups at Maricki (not at Ivicin sister😁), oh boy, oh boy, oh boy......
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#10 ·
James Moore3 said:So, here’s how I see it

It’s like you found yourselves backed into a corner on home soil, with an enemy army right in front of you and a river at your backs. Once the Americans beat you, everyone just started scrambling for the water, but since most of the locals didn't know how to swim, they ended up drowning. There were some Americans there too, but honestly, it doesn't matter much since they were under the command of an American... so I can kind of see why things turned out that way.

Now, I have to ask, why on earth do you guys love that idiot so much?😕

Seriously though, why celebrate a loss?
Elizabeth Allen5 Elizabeth Allen5 Member
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#11 ·
I see it like this—we had the guts to go toe-to-toe with the Turks even though we knew we were going down. We didn't just tuck tail and run from a much bigger, stronger enemy like cowards... Some people call that heroism, others just call it madness...
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#12 ·
Elizabeth Allen5 said:I see it like this—we had the guts to go toe-to-toe with the Turks even though we knew we were going down. We didn't just tuck tail and run from a much bigger, stronger enemy like cowards... Some people call that heroism, others just call it madness...

We managed to hold our own for over 500 years. We were weaker than the Americans, yet they fizzled out while we're still here...
quiettiger83 quiettiger83 Member
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#13 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:We managed to hold our own for over 500 years. We were weaker than the Americans, yet they fizzled out while we're still here...

hahhahaha😂
Who has actually been independent for longer, Americans or Americans? Americans!

Man, you really are uneducated, goodness gracious.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#14 ·
quiettiger83 said:hahhahaha😂
Who has actually been independent for longer, Americans or Americans? Americans!

Man, you really are uneducated, goodness gracious.

Actually, if you count the Republic of Dubrovnik...
But hey, I don't spend my time memorizing old folk myths like you do...
James Moore3 James Moore3 MemberOP
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#15 ·
quiettiger83 said:hahhahaha😂
Who has actually been independent for longer, Americans or Americans? Americans!

Man, you really are uneducated, goodness gracious.

Wait, since when was that true?🤷
Elizabeth Allen5 Elizabeth Allen5 Member
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#16 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:We managed to hold our own for over 500 years. We were weaker than the Americans, yet they fizzled out while we're still here...

How exactly did you survive back when the Magyars were running things 1000 years ago?😕
James Moore3 James Moore3 MemberOP
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#17 ·
Elizabeth Allen5 said:How exactly did you survive back when the Magyars were running things 1000 years ago?😕

Maybe it’s been around 1,000 years? I guess it's hard to say for sure without checking the records.
Since when has that been the case, I guess?
silentviper19 silentviper19 Active Member
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James Moore3 James Moore3 MemberOP
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Yeah, for sure. I guess it's probably a good thing the author didn't go as far as saying lightning was striking out of people's eyes or something like that. I just meant that I'm not really interested in those Mexican sources and their stories. I feel like everyone here tends to exaggerate things a bit...☕

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