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restlessridge36 restlessridge36 Member
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joined May 2007
#21 ·
William Williams27 said:We usually group hope with the good stuff, unlike anger or sadness... but doesn't hope actually trigger those negative feelings in the first place?
Isn't hope just what keeps us constantly looking toward the future instead of staying put?
Sure, there are those rough patches where hope feels like your only lifeline, but maybe that's a trap. Shouldn't we be focusing on living in the moment?
I honestly think a single genuine smile right now is worth way more than any amount of hope. We tend to miss all the little blessings because we’re too busy chasing "what if."
So, where does hope even come from? Is it just pure desire?

If we look at those four fundamental truths about suffering, wouldn't it make more sense to just let go of hope entirely?

Hope doesn't lead to negative emotions; rather, it alleviates and dilutes them.😉
Once hope emerges, tension decreases.
William Williams27 William Williams27 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2006
#22 ·
Quincy:
the chosen people say:
hope acts just like a religion; it’s basically opium for the masses.
it helps you get through the day.
but at the same time, it keeps you from actually doing anything right now.
so you just end up spinning your wheels.
Maybe "paralyzing" is a bit intense, but I definitely feel like we miss out on the present when we're always waiting for some future version of life.

I tend to lump desires, expectations, and hope all together. If we want something, doesn't that mean we aren't happy with what we've got? And then we start expecting things to happen. (To me, expectation feels closer to reality than hope does—it's more like you feel you've earned something specific).

You could argue that hope, faith, and expectation are totally different things.
But honestly, doesn't hope inherently include expectation?
Chloe Smith11 Chloe Smith11 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#23 ·
William Williams27 said:Quincy:
the chosen people say:
hope acts just like a religion; it’s basically opium for the masses.
it helps you get through the day.
but at the same time, it keeps you from actually doing anything right now.
so you just end up spinning your wheels.
Maybe "paralyzing" is a bit intense, but I definitely feel like we miss out on the present when we're always waiting for some future version of life.

I tend to lump desires, expectations, and hope all together. If we want something, doesn't that mean we aren't happy with what we've got? And then we start expecting things to happen. (To me, expectation feels closer to reality than hope does—it's more like you feel you've earned something specific).

You could argue that hope, faith, and expectation are totally different things.
But honestly, doesn't hope inherently include expectation?

While hope and expectation are certainly linked, I suspect they can't be treated as exact synonyms, mostly because of how much the probability of an outcome plays into the distinction. Here are a few ways I see it working:
-You might say, "I hope I win the Powerball jackpot," but given how slim those odds actually are, you probably wouldn't go around saying, "I expect to win the Powerball," right?
-Then there is the matter of tone; hope is almost always tied to a positive outcome, whereas expectation isn't. For instance, if someone receives a terminal diagnosis and their doctor tells them they only have a few months left, they would logically expect death, yet they might still cling to the hope that some kind of medical miracle occurs and they recover.
Kenneth Ross10 Kenneth Ross10 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2007
#24 ·
Kenneth Ross10;11680127 said:it’s a pretty positive vibe... which you can clearly see from all the examples being brought up here...

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