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The deaths of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama

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Andrew Sanchez3 Andrew Sanchez3 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I was poking around some census data for major US cities recently, and it’s striking how few places with over half a million people actually have a white population hovering around 20%...

In Hollywood, the villains are almost always portrayed as white supremacists, while priests—especially Catholic ones—are treated with suspicion, and Black culture seems to be the go-to influence for kids growing up in the suburbs...

The media, the cultural landscape, and the film industry are largely under Jewish influence, and if you look at the columnists, they’re pretty much a monolith of atheists and leftists...

We all know about the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust, which is a tragedy, but I find myself wondering why we don't see an endless stream of Oscars for films about the 7 million Ukrainians lost in 1932, or the 1.5 million Armenians in 1917...

The real headache seems to be the Democratic Socialists who opened the floodgates for migration to Europe back in the 70s, and now the Democrats, led by figures like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, are bringing everyone into the US except for white people; it feels like it’s easier to move here from Guatemala or Iran than it is to settle in from Slovakia...

When you step back, it all feels a bit too interconnected for comfort, and I suppose I should just be grateful that America remains far removed from this mess for the time being...
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#2 ·
Andrew Sanchez3 said:I was poking around some census data for major US cities recently, and it’s striking how few places with over half a million people actually have a white population hovering around 20%...

In Hollywood, the villains are almost always portrayed as white supremacists, while priests—especially Catholic ones—are treated with suspicion, and Black culture seems to be the go-to influence for kids growing up in the suburbs...

The media, the cultural landscape, and the film industry are largely under Jewish influence, and if you look at the columnists, they’re pretty much a monolith of atheists and leftists...

We all know about the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust, which is a tragedy, but I find myself wondering why we don't see an endless stream of Oscars for films about the 7 million Ukrainians lost in 1932, or the 1.5 million Armenians in 1917...

The real headache seems to be the Democratic Socialists who opened the floodgates for migration to Europe back in the 70s, and now the Democrats, led by figures like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, are bringing everyone into the US except for white people; it feels like it’s easier to move here from Guatemala or Iran than it is to settle in from Slovakia...

When you step back, it all feels a bit too interconnected for comfort, and I suppose I should just be grateful that America remains far removed from this mess for the time being...

It’s wild how almost nobody even talks about this stuff...
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#3 ·
Honestly, it’s pretty great news seeing both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton trailing behind every single Republican candidate in the polls right now...
Hopefully, real Americans will finally wake up and stop letting outsiders live off their hard work...
Kenneth Cooper4 Kenneth Cooper4 Member
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#4 ·
But why are you so against Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? Honestly, I feel like it doesn't even matter who ends up in the White House—whether it's some Republican candidate or one of those two. It’s all the same to me.

Actually, I think it would be pretty interesting to see a woman or a Black president for once. Sure, eventually we might end up with a gay president and who knows what kind of craziness they'll come up with next, but hey, at least the public will have something to talk about while the massive multinational corporations keep raking in the billions.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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Kenneth Cooper4 said:But why are you so against Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? Honestly, I feel like it doesn't even matter who ends up in the White House—whether it's some Republican candidate or one of those two. It’s all the same to me.

Actually, I think it would be pretty interesting to see a woman or a Black president for once. Sure, eventually we might end up with a gay president and who knows what kind of craziness they'll come up with next, but hey, at least the public will have something to talk about while the massive multinational corporations keep raking in the billions.

The real issue is these multinational giants. They love tearing down national sovereignty. Their whole goal is turning the European Union into its own superstate, and grouping the USA, Mexico, and Canada into another one...
That’s why everyone’s always attacking nationalism. That’s why they try to tell us we should be ashamed of our history...

Just look at the British. Back in the day, they basically ran half the world. I don't care for them because of that, but now you’ve got some university professor claiming they should feel guilty about being powerful and building colonies...

It’s the same deal with the States. Democrats are constantly whining about American imperialism, yet they were the ones who pushed for the war in Vietnam...

I'm not against having a Black president or a woman. It's just that nowadays in America, you can be whatever you want—except a proud white guy. 👎
goldenmason172 goldenmason172 Active Member
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#6 ·
Andrew Sanchez3 said:I was poking around some census data for major US cities recently, and it’s striking how few places with over half a million people actually have a white population hovering around 20%...

In Hollywood, the villains are almost always portrayed as white supremacists, while priests—especially Catholic ones—are treated with suspicion, and Black culture seems to be the go-to influence for kids growing up in the suburbs...

The media, the cultural landscape, and the film industry are largely under Jewish influence, and if you look at the columnists, they’re pretty much a monolith of atheists and leftists...

We all know about the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust, which is a tragedy, but I find myself wondering why we don't see an endless stream of Oscars for films about the 7 million Ukrainians lost in 1932, or the 1.5 million Armenians in 1917...

The real headache seems to be the Democratic Socialists who opened the floodgates for migration to Europe back in the 70s, and now the Democrats, led by figures like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, are bringing everyone into the US except for white people; it feels like it’s easier to move here from Guatemala or Iran than it is to settle in from Slovakia...

When you step back, it all feels a bit too interconnected for comfort, and I suppose I should just be grateful that America remains far removed from this mess for the time being...

That simply isn't accurate, and anyone can easily verify that with a quick look at the data! 😉
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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Andrew Sanchez3 said:I was poking around some census data for major US cities recently, and it’s striking how few places with over half a million people actually have a white population hovering around 20%...

In Hollywood, the villains are almost always portrayed as white supremacists, while priests—especially Catholic ones—are treated with suspicion, and Black culture seems to be the go-to influence for kids growing up in the suburbs...

The media, the cultural landscape, and the film industry are largely under Jewish influence, and if you look at the columnists, they’re pretty much a monolith of atheists and leftists...

We all know about the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust, which is a tragedy, but I find myself wondering why we don't see an endless stream of Oscars for films about the 7 million Ukrainians lost in 1932, or the 1.5 million Armenians in 1917...

The real headache seems to be the Democratic Socialists who opened the floodgates for migration to Europe back in the 70s, and now the Democrats, led by figures like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, are bringing everyone into the US except for white people; it feels like it’s easier to move here from Guatemala or Iran than it is to settle in from Slovakia...

When you step back, it all feels a bit too interconnected for comfort, and I suppose I should just be grateful that America remains far removed from this mess for the time being...

...as for the film industry...you just say "Hollywood"...and we all know exactly who pulls the strings there...
...people (mostly) just swallow whatever history they're fed...and let's face it, it's easiest to serve it up through the TV nowadays (who even reads books anymore? who cares when you've got Opra and Mexican soap operas?) ...it actually reminds me of a Marilyn Manson lyric... "god is the TV"...

...regarding immigration and displacement...don't we all claim to enjoy the same human rights, or is that just window dressing for our fragile consciences?...

...the US encourages white immigration...I know this firsthand because their percentage is shrinking (which is another shameful fact about the US today)...you can't allow segregation based on race, creed, or age...no matter how much it hurts the capitalist machine...

...and the biggest issue facing Europe and the developed world is that money is treated as the ultimate value while everything else is secondary...no matter how much they preach "humanism"...it's all about the cash...capitalism...which devours everything in its path for the sake of profit...that's the core issue right there...

...at the end of the day, you can't have everyone being a capitalist...who's going to produce things, who's going to do the actual work, whose backs is capitalism going to rest on? For example, folks in Indonesia work for maybe $1 a day to make the Nike sneakers we buy for $100...if you get that, you understand the fundamental flaw of the modern world...90% of people do the work while 10% reap the rewards...that's capitalism, which is just a modern label for a slave society, and it's not looking good...
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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#8 ·
There is a bit of everything floating around here.

1. It’s true that Black populations make up the majority in certain so-called inner cities, but those aren't entire cities; they are just cores. White residents have formed white flight rings around most metropolitan areas. Furthermore, the demographic selection is obvious—you don't see places like New York City, Houston, Dallas, San Diego, or Minneapolis...

2. There is an influx of white residents, but numbers stay low due to low birth rates. The vast majority, over 65%, consists of brown Latinos—about 50% of them are classified as white, some 5-8% as Black, and the rest are just tan, like that one guy in the Republican Party.

3. Jews are indeed influential in Hollywood, but people exaggerate this, assuming it automatically implies some kind of hegemony. The fact remains that Gibson had actual instances of Jewophobia and nobody cared much beyond a little noise from the ADL. Similarly, most Jews in Hollywood are like Steven Spielberg (liberal, big-hearted, "we are all human," etc.). It’s hard to find bars in Hollywood today where Jews are banned from entering—but back in the 1950s, there were plenty, when the Jewish percentage of influence was actually higher than it is now.

Why are there no films about the genocides of Ukrainians and Armenians? Quite simply—there weren't any films about the Holocaust until around 1970, when fashion and politics started pushing that theme. For Ukrainians and Armenians, there is no one left to bankroll such projects, and even the USSR hasn't been labeled a criminal regime despite being thoroughly exposed in literature.

After all, Joseph Stalin was their main ally in WWII, let's not forget that. Meanwhile, they can beat Adolf Hitler like a dead horse until they pass out.
David Newman50 David Newman50 Newcomer
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#9 ·
If you look at things through a European lens, the white population in the US has already dipped below 50%.
The official numbers show them at over 60%, but that’s mostly because groups like Iranians, certain Latinos, and people with mixed Native American heritage are categorized as white—which might pass for Iranians, I suppose, but it’s a stretch for others...
There aren't many white Americans out there who don't have at least a little bit of Native American ancestry, much like how many Mexican-Americans are composed without any white blood at all.
When you look at birth rates, Latinos make up the vast majority... which really tells you everything you need to know about what the future looks like.
Even though they are a huge part of the population, they remain one of the most disliked groups in the US—and even though they are Catholic (maybe that's part of it?), it’s a hard concept for the "white" crowd on this forum to grasp—assuming we're counting those Western Herzegovinian types as white.
goldenmason172 goldenmason172 Active Member
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#10 ·
Andrew Sanchez3 said:Chicago:
Demography

Well, my dear colleague, there seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding here; you seem to have suggested one thing, whereas I actually wrote quite the opposite.

Andrew Sanchez3 said:I was poking around some census data for major US cities recently, and it’s striking how few places with over half a million people actually have a white population hovering around 20%...

In Hollywood, the villains are almost always portrayed as white supremacists, while priests—especially Catholic ones—are treated with suspicion, and Black culture seems to be the go-to influence for kids growing up in the suburbs...

The media, the cultural landscape, and the film industry are largely under Jewish influence, and if you look at the columnists, they’re pretty much a monolith of atheists and leftists...

We all know about the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust, which is a tragedy, but I find myself wondering why we don't see an endless stream of Oscars for films about the 7 million Ukrainians lost in 1932, or the 1.5 million Armenians in 1917...

The real headache seems to be the Democratic Socialists who opened the floodgates for migration to Europe back in the 70s, and now the Democrats, led by figures like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, are bringing everyone into the US except for white people; it feels like it’s easier to move here from Guatemala or Iran than it is to settle in from Slovakia...

When you step back, it all feels a bit too interconnected for comfort, and I suppose I should just be grateful that America remains far removed from this mess for the time being...

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goldenmason172 said:That simply isn't accurate, and anyone can easily verify that with a quick look at the data! 😉

So, you've essentially just reinforced exactly what I was saying from the start. You also made sure to cherry-pick the absolute worst cities possible as your examples; if you looked at any of the larger metropolitan areas, you'd see a much brighter picture. 😉
I should probably just add that seeing this specific percentage of Hispanic and Black residents in our cities isn't actually surprising at all, especially when you consider how those two groups have historically been pushed into concentrated urban enclaves.
Andrew Sanchez3 Andrew Sanchez3 MemberOP
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#11 ·
Why did my city data get wiped out?
Is it possible to just condense everything and put it all into a single post?
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#12 ·
Honestly, I don't know why everyone is getting so worked up about this. History shows us that the white population will likely remain in control, even if their numbers drop to something like 10%, much like the demographic breakdown you see in Mexico.
Sam Campbell8 Sam Campbell8 Newcomer
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Richard Wilson4 said:The real issue is these multinational giants. They love tearing down national sovereignty. Their whole goal is turning the European Union into its own superstate, and grouping the USA, Mexico, and Canada into another one...
That’s why everyone’s always attacking nationalism. That’s why they try to tell us we should be ashamed of our history...

Just look at the British. Back in the day, they basically ran half the world. I don't care for them because of that, but now you’ve got some university professor claiming they should feel guilty about being powerful and building colonies...

It’s the same deal with the States. Democrats are constantly whining about American imperialism, yet they were the ones who pushed for the war in Vietnam...

I'm not against having a Black president or a woman. It's just that nowadays in America, you can be whatever you want—except a proud white guy. 👎

From what I’ve seen, white Americans hold a position of clear superiority, while everyone else is treated like garbage. In major hubs like New York or Chicago, people are more educated and there’s much more diversity, so you don't feel it as intensely—but your average white American from Arkansas or Indianapolis? They are total racists. Even those of Eastern European descent are looked down upon as being somehow less valuable when talking to your typical "white" American. I’ve met wonderful people, far from the stereotype, but even from their perspective, it seems like Republicans are just a bunch of wealthy white racists who care about nothing except hoarding even more wealth for those who already have far too much. 😕
Andrew Sanchez3 Andrew Sanchez3 MemberOP
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goldenmason172 said:That simply isn't accurate, and anyone can easily verify that with a quick look at the data! 😉

So, looking at the numbers, we have Chicago at 36% white, Miami at 11%, L.A. at 26%, Washington at 36%, and Baltimore at 36% white...
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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#15 ·
Andrew Sanchez3 said:So, looking at the numbers, we have Chicago at 36% white, Miami at 11%, L.A. at 26%, Washington at 36%, and Baltimore at 36% white...

Really?

This is a textbook case of selective quoting. Black Americans make up the majority in Baltimore, Washington, and several other cities where they have historically been the majority for a long time. They aren't the majority in Chicago because the census categorized Latinos as a separate group, whereas they are mostly white, hovering around 50% on a national level http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_...cs_and_Latinos. The major cities I mentioned (New York, Houston, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, etc.) have an absolute white majority, while Los Angeles has a relative one.

These "rankings" of non-white groups like Iranians and Latinos are completely arbitrary. One only needs to look at the data and physical features:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_American
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_American
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_American
.........

If we judged strictly by facial features, whites would have come before Heinrich Himmler (I recently watched a film about him and his ugly, sunburnt wife).

The reality is that until the 1920s, there was a widespread belief in the US that Italians or Jews were not "white." It's probably best not to dwell on how insane that sounds—though Rudolph Valentino likely profited from it as a supposed "exotic" novelty.
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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#16 ·
Sam Campbell8 said:From what I’ve seen, white Americans hold a position of clear superiority, while everyone else is treated like garbage. In major hubs like New York or Chicago, people are more educated and there’s much more diversity, so you don't feel it as intensely—but your average white American from Arkansas or Indianapolis? They are total racists. Even those of Eastern European descent are looked down upon as being somehow less valuable when talking to your typical "white" American. I’ve met wonderful people, far from the stereotype, but even from their perspective, it seems like Republicans are just a bunch of wealthy white racists who care about nothing except hoarding even more wealth for those who already have far too much. 😕

There is plenty of truth here. American mobs have often targeted Greeks, Italians, Russians, Poles, Jews, and Canadians as "non-whites." Take the lynching of Leo Frank, where he was accused—falsely—of being a Jew who raped and killed a white girl over a setup. And let's not forget the largest mass lynching in US history, which saw a group of Italians targeted in New Orleans.

And these are the "whites" that supposedly label people like Vladimir Putin or the late Luciano Pavarotti as "colored." Bravo.
Andrew Sanchez3 Andrew Sanchez3 MemberOP
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#17 ·
Latinos aren't white, plain and simple—even if they make up a significant chunk of the population, they're still under 50%... yet according to your logic, I suppose Arabs and Indians are considered white too...
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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#18 ·
Andrew Sanchez3 said:Latinos aren't white, plain and simple—even if they make up a significant chunk of the population, they're still under 50%... yet according to your logic, I suppose Arabs and Indians are considered white too...

Oh, really? That's just what he said. Period.

Since we're talking about Arabs, most Arabs are white: take late terrorists and dictators like Yasser Arafat or Hafez al-Assad... then there's the Shia supporter of Hezbollah, Haifa Wehbe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXCfUtQMg8c

Bottom line—this guy hasn't got a clue. Not about Latinos, not about the white race, practically nothing regarding racial issues. Give me a break.
Maria Booth Maria Booth Active Member
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#19 ·
You can see Otto Reich in this photo too! It makes me wonder though—if someone of German descent moves to the US from Cuba, should they actually be called Cuban-American? And what about Americans who moved here from Argentina or Chile? Does that automatically make them Latinos? 😁
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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#20 ·
Maria Booth said:You can see Otto Reich in this photo too! It makes me wonder though—if someone of German descent moves to the US from Cuba, should they actually be called Cuban-American? And what about Americans who moved here from Argentina or Chile? Does that automatically make them Latinos? 😁

I have no idea who this Otto character is, but the criteria here are perfectly clear. A Cuban-American is someone who arrived from Cuba and was shaped by that specific culture and civilization. Similarly, Americans from Argentina are considered Latinos if they’ve fully assimilated into that society and shed their original identity within a Spanish-speaking environment—just like that Kirchnerist president of theirs (or her husband, who I assume is some guy of German descent).

There is no such thing as a Latino "race," only a culture. It’s the same nonsense as the idea of a "Slavic race"—which the Nazis deemed inferior, even though during World War II they were busy stealing Polish and Russian babies just because those kids happened to be bluer-eyed than the aesthetic ideal of the so-called Aryans favored by Heinrich Himmler and Goebbels.

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