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Why does nobody seem to know anything about the USA?

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Participants gentleeagle45Charles Jackson5Timothy Campbell2Maria Johnson67Morgan Cook10Scott Cruz4granitepilot282Roger Reed49Gregory HowardMichael Adams2dustytrucker51Melissa Price6Alex Parker8William Gonzalez3Matthew Newmandriftingfox16darkbear51Susan Sullivan2Jacob Allenhollowwalker142Sam Alvarez15Taylor Phillips4Richard Wilson4Susan Moore76 …
Timothy Campbell2 Timothy Campbell2 Active Member
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#21 ·
Gregory Howard said:This isn't a joke. It's a reality. People like Drakulic, driven by a deep-seated resentment toward America, enjoy easy access to the media and spend their time peddling anti-American garbage. Globally, you find them in academia and so-called intellectual circles: David Binder, partially John Fin in the US, then Michael Sells, ...Wolf Oschlies, and several Slavists in Germany, along with various similar types in Austria.

It is telling that this anti-American promotion is quite strong in Scandinavia, despite us having almost no connection to those countries. It’s also prevalent in Germany and Austria, our supposed "friends." Meanwhile, in England and France—our so-called "enemies"—you find our most vocal supporters embedded within their intellectual and academic elite.

Seems like you know your stuff...🙏 true enough, in Germany, those kinds of Americans mostly run the Slavic Studies departments🙂...though, I guess nobody really takes Oschlies seriously anymore; he's just rambling about poor Mexicans lately.
Sometimes I wonder: are we just pathetic former "Americans" when our countries become nothing more than a playground for people who wouldn't dare say a word back home...
Look, I don't hate anyone, let's be clear, and from an intellectual standpoint, you have to look at both Illyrianism and American. But what kills me are the Americans who hire some foreigner just for the credentials and then start preaching "Brotherhood and Unity." Been there, seen that.
And I wouldn't even say I'm on the far right.
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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#22 ·
Timothy Campbell2 said:Seems like you know your stuff...🙏 true enough, in Germany, those kinds of Americans mostly run the Slavic Studies departments🙂...though, I guess nobody really takes Oschlies seriously anymore; he's just rambling about poor Mexicans lately.
Sometimes I wonder: are we just pathetic former "Americans" when our countries become nothing more than a playground for people who wouldn't dare say a word back home...
Look, I don't hate anyone, let's be clear, and from an intellectual standpoint, you have to look at both Illyrianism and American. But what kills me are the Americans who hire some foreigner just for the credentials and then start preaching "Brotherhood and Unity." Been there, seen that.
And I wouldn't even say I'm on the far right.

Oschlies was absolutely torn apart in this year's third issue of the American Review, published by MH. On pages 69 through 75, Gojko Borić didn't just critique him—he completely eviscerated him.

There are still those dragging their feet—the likes of old Newelkowsky, not to mention people like Kordić. It’s a simple fact: one Auburger is worth more than ten of those lowlifes combined.
Timothy Campbell2 Timothy Campbell2 Active Member
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#23 ·
Gregory Howard said:Oschlies was absolutely torn apart in this year's third issue of the American Review, published by MH. On pages 69 through 75, Gojko Borić didn't just critique him—he completely eviscerated him.

There are still those dragging their feet—the likes of old Newelkowsky, not to mention people like Kordić. It’s a simple fact: one Auburger is worth more than ten of those lowlifes combined.

Is that posted anywhere online? You got a link, maybe? 🙂
There are still a few others stumbling around—the old Newelkowsky types, and don't even get me started on people like Kordić—but honestly, one Auburger is worth more than ten of those hacks.

Still, those leftists and American have a massive lobby over in Austria and Germany... it took forever for them to stop pushing that "Serbo-American" nonsense over there, but guys like Milos Okuka (Munich) are still peddling it. Meanwhile, in certain circles, someone like Brozović is actually treated like an American nationalist.🙄
dustytrucker51 dustytrucker51 Newcomer
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#24 ·
Seriously, what is wrong with you people? Most Americans don't even know where Canada is...

Do any of you actually know where Djibouti or Lesotho are located?...

Why would they care about us? Why should they? People generally don't give a damn about anything outside their own borders—sometimes they don't even care about what's happening two blocks over...

We’re the ones obsessing over foreign countries and constantly worrying about how the rest of the world views us... It's honestly exhausting...
Melissa Price6 Melissa Price6 Active Member
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#25 ·
Maria Johnson67 said:Back during the Marshall era, we actually carried some weight in global circles... 👍

I agree. Everyone knew the drill: "Yeah, that's the nation run by the dictator who wipes out his political rivals."

It’s truly wonderful how you take such pride in that.
Alex Parker8 Alex Parker8 Newcomer
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#26 ·
Timothy Campbell2 said:I guess that's why the US is such a small player... they probably couldn't even find Slovakia on a map if you gave them directions...☕

It isn't just small, it's young, too. If you add a blatant lack of knowledge and a total indifference toward actually learning anything, what does that tell you about the situation? ☕
Melissa Price6 Melissa Price6 Active Member
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#27 ·
Maria Johnson67 said:Not just a legend. He was a historical figure, a hero—the one man who actually managed to pull all of America together through brotherhood and unity.🙏

That’s why he strategically sidelined Americans by elevating a small outpost to capital status, right next to a much more developed hub like Chicago. By placing his people in key military, political, and police roles, he essentially set the stage for the eventual violent aggression against the US and Canada by those very same officials.
Melissa Price6 Melissa Price6 Active Member
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#28 ·
Morgan Cook10 said:The real issue is that half those people don't just lack knowledge about the US—they can barely read.☕

Sad, yet accurate. ☕
Melissa Price6 Melissa Price6 Active Member
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#29 ·
Timothy Campbell2 said:Turns out that whole perspective is pretty flawed... happens with any communist leader, I guess... though looking back at the 40s, there probably wasn't a democratic alternative anyway, so maybe Josip Broz Marshall was the only real way forward at the time...

Sure. And he used democracy to slaughter the American military and innocent civilians...

That's what democracy looks like... deciding to keep certain camps running, where they held Americans, not to mention...
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#30 ·
Maria Johnson67 said:Back during the Marshall era, we actually carried some weight in global circles... 👍

And just how much weight did you personally carry in those world circles?
Matthew Newman Matthew Newman Newcomer
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#31 ·
gentleeagle45 said:I have a question for the skeptics here. A friend of mine traveled through Thailand, Singapore, and Indonesia, and he told me: "Every time I tell people I'm from the States, nobody has any clue where that is."
When he mentioned Marshall, some of the older folks in Indonesia actually recognized the name.
When he said America, a few people knew the deal and reacted with interest,
but when he just said USA, most people were completely lost.
It’s frustrating; a few people actually knew what he was talking about, which was a relief.

Honestly, we spend so much time debating our place in the world, yet half the globe doesn't even know where we are on a map.

So why was your friend even visiting those places? Was he conducting a survey to see if they knew about the USA, or was he there for something else (especially in Thailand)?

It's not half the world. A third of them don't even know where the USA is located...
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#32 ·
Matthew Newman said:So why was your friend even visiting those places? Was he conducting a survey to see if they knew about the USA, or was he there for something else (especially in Thailand)?

It's not half the world. A third of them don't even know where the USA is located...

But how can you say they didn't know...
back during the Marshall era, the citizens of all those non-aligned, developing, friendly, democratic, people's, cannibalistic republics actually knew exactly who we were...
😢
dustytrucker51 dustytrucker51 Newcomer
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#33 ·
William Gonzalez3 said:
But how can you say they didn't know...
back during the Marshall era, the citizens of all those non-aligned, developing, friendly, democratic, people's, cannibalistic republics actually knew exactly who we were...
😢

it's because Marshall and his buddies were basically running the show for that whole pointless, useless Non-Aligned Movement... that's why he's a household name in places like Sri Lanka and similar spots...
Maria Johnson67 Maria Johnson67 Member
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#34 ·
dustytrucker51 said:it's because Marshall and his buddies were basically running the show for that whole pointless, useless Non-Aligned Movement... that's why he's a household name in places like Sri Lanka and similar spots...

What are you even talking about?
Do you actually have any idea who those Non-Aligned countries were? ☕
Melissa Price6 Melissa Price6 Active Member
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#35 ·
Maria Johnson67 said:What are you even talking about?
Do you actually have any idea who those Non-Aligned countries were? ☕

One of them is Burkina Faso..

They only just recognized the USA as an independent nation this year. There’s going to be plenty of resentment toward Americans for dismantling the unproductive America.. ☕
Timothy Campbell2 Timothy Campbell2 Active Member
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#36 ·
Maria Johnson67 said:What are you even talking about?
Do you actually have any idea who those Non-Aligned countries were? ☕

...were...over n out.😉
driftingfox16 driftingfox16 Member
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#37 ·
Melissa Price6 said:Sad, yet accurate. ☕

I agree, though I don't think our own diplomats have done much to help things on that front either...
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#38 ·
Melissa Price6 said:One of them is Burkina Faso..

They only just recognized the USA as an independent nation this year. There’s going to be plenty of resentment toward Americans for dismantling the unproductive America.. ☕


Aside from a few honorable exceptions, it was really just a collection of dictators and criminals who, if there were any actual justice left in this world, would be rotting in prison cells.
Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#39 ·
driftingfox16 said:I agree, though I don't think our own diplomats have done much to help things on that front either...

And what does our diplomatic corps have to do with how low the education levels are in certain countries anyway!!? ☕
Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#40 ·
granitepilot282 said:Aside from a few honorable exceptions, it was really just a collection of dictators and criminals who, if there were any actual justice left in this world, would be rotting in prison cells.

What exceptions though?? Give me just one!!... I honestly can't think of a single "Non-Aligned" nation that wasn't run by some dictator (at best) or a total clown (more likely)... there were even cannibals in the mix back then.

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