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Che Guevara: Remembering the Legend on the 40th Anniversary of His Death

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Participants Kyle Ross19northernbison63Linda Hughes88Jason Campbell70Gregory Howardgoldenmason172Morgan Cook10Nathan Bailey65Kate Ramos12Robin Ramos2frozentiger6Richard Wilson4Peter Brown4Jose Martin13quietharbor63Harold Miller52hollownomad2Elizabeth Lopez16Jonathan Morales79darkfox14Peter Grant38Gary Kelly7
quietharbor63 quietharbor63 Newcomer
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#21 ·
Kyle Ross19 said:What does Che Guevara mean to you? Or what was that clueless, headless loser you all worship calling him? -> A pack of small-timers—an unreachable ideal in every single way.
Unlike you lot, who are barely worth remembering, he remained an absolute enigma to his enemies and opponents alike. You couldn't bribe him, blackmail him, or win him over. There simply isn't a bag of money large enough to buy him, even if you emptied out every last cent from those Judas pockets they call wealth!!!!
You people sell yourselves out while those small-timers are bought for less than what fits between two fingers... for a few measly cents!

They couldn't even kill him properly; they just wasted a few bullets on him like they were checking a box, yet year after year, he only grows more influential!!
In Villagrand, the peasants have been preparing meals for him for years, practically praying to him like he's some kind of saint. It’s almost ironic how all of Latin America "hates" him while simultaneously "adoring" the greedy vultures north of the Rio Grande.

So, you losers and sellouts, just shut your mouths and get on your knees whenever you mention Che Guevara!

The psychopath and war criminal died a dog's death.
Harold Miller52 Harold Miller52 Newcomer
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#22 ·
Kyle Ross19 said:What does Che Guevara mean to you? Or what was that clueless, headless loser you all worship calling him? -> A pack of small-timers—an unreachable ideal in every single way.
Unlike you lot, who are barely worth remembering, he remained an absolute enigma to his enemies and opponents alike. You couldn't bribe him, blackmail him, or win him over. There simply isn't a bag of money large enough to buy him, even if you emptied out every last cent from those Judas pockets they call wealth!!!!
You people sell yourselves out while those small-timers are bought for less than what fits between two fingers... for a few measly cents!

They couldn't even kill him properly; they just wasted a few bullets on him like they were checking a box, yet year after year, he only grows more influential!!
In Villagrand, the peasants have been preparing meals for him for years, practically praying to him like he's some kind of saint. It’s almost ironic how all of Latin America "hates" him while simultaneously "adoring" the greedy vultures north of the Rio Grande.

So, you losers and sellouts, just shut your mouths and get on your knees whenever you mention Che Guevara!

Yeah, right, and they stripped the hands off his corpse.
A handmade Rolex, because a real working man certainly doesn't have one.😁,
Seriously though,
I don't like Quote : Che Guevara simply because I can't stand
any kind of legends or myths, since the truth is usually diametrically opposed to them..
History proved it...
hollownomad2 hollownomad2 Newcomer
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#23 ·
You can think whatever you want, but there's only one Quote : Che Guevara.
Elizabeth Lopez16 Elizabeth Lopez16 Member
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#24 ·
When you start mythologizing a person’s life and legacy, you kill any chance at an objective assessment. It just triggers these endless debates that feel less like discussions and more like a flat-out denial of reality. Quote : Che Guevara was a revolutionary who offered a glimmer of hope to millions across South America, sure, but he was also a media figurehead—someone the press constantly tried to "sanitize" for public consumption.

The latest historical insights suggest we were dealing with a killer who didn't hesitate to eliminate anyone standing in his way. But most people conveniently ignore that detail. Why? Because the general public doesn't care, and because a different version of him has been manufactured—one that is kept alive today by the youth in the most advanced nations, the very places often criticized as the heartlands of capitalism and so-called neo-imperialism.

At the end of the day, Quote : Che Guevara has become a cultural phenomenon. He enjoys this incredibly favorable posthumous status, which is really just a reactionary response to modern problems that some believe Quote : Che Guevara actually had the answers to.
Jonathan Morales79 Jonathan Morales79 Active Member
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#25 ·
Elizabeth Lopez16 said:When you start mythologizing a person’s life and legacy, you kill any chance at an objective assessment. It just triggers these endless debates that feel less like discussions and more like a flat-out denial of reality. Quote : Che Guevara was a revolutionary who offered a glimmer of hope to millions across South America, sure, but he was also a media figurehead—someone the press constantly tried to "sanitize" for public consumption.

The latest historical insights suggest we were dealing with a killer who didn't hesitate to eliminate anyone standing in his way. But most people conveniently ignore that detail. Why? Because the general public doesn't care, and because a different version of him has been manufactured—one that is kept alive today by the youth in the most advanced nations, the very places often criticized as the heartlands of capitalism and so-called neo-imperialism.

At the end of the day, Quote : Che Guevara has become a cultural phenomenon. He enjoys this incredibly favorable posthumous status, which is really just a reactionary response to modern problems that some believe Quote : Che Guevara actually had the answers to.

And don't even get me started on Pablo Escobar... he was a legendary revolutionary, loved by the people, and honestly, he took down more capitalist exploiters at their roots than Quote : Che Guevara ever did.😉

The latest findings suggest we were actually dealing with a killer who didn't hesitate for a second to eliminate anyone with opposing views... yet that detail is brushed aside because most people simply don't care, and because this manufactured image of him is kept alive today by the youth in the world's most developed nations—those supposed cradles of capitalism and so-called neo-imperialism.

He was one of the most brilliant minds out there, incredibly well-read... he had this enviable private library of over 10,000 books, though he never bragged about it; instead, he’d leave these fascinating, often deeply lucid and extensive notes in every volume he owned. He was a well-known theology student who practically lived with Machiavelli's "The Prince" by his side. Along with a friend who studied law, he used to rob trains... and he was better known by the name Stalin.
It’s actually quite interesting that he left behind almost no significant wealth... nothing except maybe two worn-out, sweat-stained hats, two or three old leather coats, and a modest collection of tobacco pipes. 🙂

If I’m being honest, I would have preferred it if Stalin had just been obsessed with money.
But, 🙄
He wasn't.😵

Quote : Che Guevara is a cultural phenomenon who enjoys a very favorable posthumous status, which acts as a reaction to current problems for which, according to some, Quote : Che Guevara held the solutions.

When I was thirteen, I started rooting for the local high school football team in Chicago, mostly because my old man was a die-hard fan of the team from the suburbs... they were eternal rivals 😁. 😠
It’s just your standard identity crisis, that clash with authority you see in every single teenager... because usually, the search for something "new" begins with the uncritical tearing down of the "old." It’s been that way since pre-biblical times...
darkfox14 darkfox14 Member
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#26 ·
Beyond all the pseudo-intellectual posturing and endless debating, there’s really just one plain truth left. Quote : Che Guevara stands as the ultimate symbol of resistance against the imperialist powers—those heavy hitters who, in a world that supposedly isn't colonial anymore, still pull the strings of governments across Latin America and hoard massive amounts of land and resources.
Honestly, guys like Joe Tortura just crack me up. They get all worked up because someone slapped a picture of Che Guevara on a t-shirt, yet they don't seem to give a damn about death sentences funded by the CIA, or the fact that massive American corporations own most of the farmland in Central America. 😵
darkfox14 darkfox14 Member
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#27 ·
It’s honestly hilarious watching people trip over themselves to cite these total legends and fabrications cooked up right in the heart of the CIA.
Peter Grant38 Peter Grant38 Newcomer
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#28 ·
northernbison63 said:It looks like all that relaxing, drinking, and smoking caught up to him though—put on a little weight and trashed his lungs, so he couldn't move quite as fast through the Amazon as he did back in Cuba. Hey, what can you do? Just a classic revolutionary mistake... I hear Marshall had a tendency toward that kind of stuff too. 😵

Quote : Che Guevara was actually an asthmatic...☕
quietharbor63 quietharbor63 Newcomer
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#29 ·
Peter Grant38 said:Quote : Che Guevara was actually an asthmatic...☕

Supposedly, the language barrier played a huge role too.

Basically, Quote : Che Guevara spoke Spanish, yet he tried to kick off a guerrilla war among illiterate Native Americans who were all speaking Guaraní.
northernbison63 northernbison63 Active Member
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#30 ·
quietharbor63 said:Supposedly, the language barrier played a huge role too.

Basically, Quote : Che Guevara spoke Spanish, yet he tried to kick off a guerrilla war among illiterate Native Americans who were all speaking Guaraní.

Man. 👍

Honestly, I wouldn't even be shocked if they actually tripped up over such a stupid mistake (even though you hear guaraní spoken in the USA too)

Anyway, revolutions in Venezuela also fell apart back in the late 60s and early 70s. I remember reading an interview with one of the former leaders years ago. He said they kicked off the revolution and everyone went totally rogue, fleeing to the countryside and hiding out in the woods. Everything seemed great on paper—the revolution is moving, people are studying Marx and Engels, soaking up the lessons from October and Cuba... the whole action and struggle vibe... but then the movement just stalls. No new recruits are coming in. And then it finally hit them: 95% of the population in Venezuela lives in the cities. 😵
Gary Kelly7 Gary Kelly7 Member
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#31 ·
Robin Ramos2 said:Che Guevara was nothing more than a loser, and even today, his legacy mostly appeals to losers and people who just can't fit into society.

After the Cuban Revolution, he failed at every single endeavor he ever touched. He was tasked with fixing up the industry in Cuba, but he couldn't do anything about their crushing dependence on sugar. Then, when he was sent out to spread the revolution, he failed everywhere he went. Honestly, I guess his biggest "achievement" was dragging the Russians into Africa, which—alongside the war in Afghanistan—basically pushed an already overstretched Soviet Union toward financial ruin and eventual collapse. Even before the revolution, he was just a brutal killer; he actually enjoyed the executions. Those are the kinds of details that are finally starting to peek out from under that highly polished, manufactured image of this villain. And if you're wondering why the image of Che Guevara exists at all, blame that whole group of French criminals, especially that depressing misanthrope Jean-Paul Sartre. To Sartre, Che was "the most complete man he had ever met," which makes sense, I suppose—it’s perfectly logical that a spark in the eyes of a misanthrope would serve its purpose completely.

👍

"Che" was really just a daddy's boy—the Guevara Lynch family had massive wealth, probably earned fighting for the rights of the poor and working class, obviously—so he got bored and decided to play revolutionary, then lost his mind and started killing.
He ended up worse off than he deserved, too. It’s not exactly the same thing as peddling that garbage in the Bolivian jungle to some crazy kids among the Latin American (and other) bourgeoisie.

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