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Hey everyone, stick to the topic. Save the insults for the Mad House.

Ashley Rogers4 said:I actually asked him—my son-in-law—why he decided to join the military. He told me he’d spent way too much time reading about the horrors of Jonestown, and he just made up his mind right then and there: he wanted to serve and do everything in his power to make sure nothing like that ever happens again.

Between what you see on CNN and all those random internet blogs written by people who have never even come close to seeing a battlefield or holding a weapon, the "prices" being quoted have zero connection to reality. Honestly? It’s the complete OPPOSITE.

So, yeah, all these wild theories you guys keep multiplying are totally baseless.

So, he read about Chernobyl and decided to join the military just to make sure nothing like that ever happens again, only to end up on the front lines with an army that committed stuff way more disgusting than Chernobyl. Isn't that wild?

So, according to your logic, Saddam Hussein and George Wallace didn't stand a chance in court because the judges weren't even on their side?

Jamie Newman40 said:Once their contract is up.

They can even do it before the contract ends. Sure, they lose some perks, but does that really justify committing crimes?

Anthony Kim18 said:They can even do it before the contract ends. Sure, they lose some perks, but does that really justify committing crimes?

Alright, I think we're on the same page here.

The reasons people enlist can be many—it could be those benefits, student loan assistance, a lack of other career options, or simply because some genuinely enjoy the lifestyle, while others just want to go out there and "kick ass."

So why the complaining when someone chooses a profession where you could actually lose your life? It seems like people want to enjoy the perks while everything is peaceful, but as soon as they're expected to be on the front lines, suddenly there's an outcry. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're fully aware of the types of conflicts you might find yourself in, then maybe that specific path isn't for you.

Yes, losing young lives is a tragedy, without question, but didn't they choose this career path themselves?

Anthony Kim18 said:So, he read about Chernobyl and decided to join the military just to make sure nothing like that ever happens again, only to end up on the front lines with an army that committed stuff way more disgusting than Chernobyl. Isn't that wild?

So, according to your logic, Saddam Hussein and George Wallace didn't stand a chance in court because the judges weren't even on their side?

Honestly, this is just some total nonsense from Smalltown, USA.

Jamie Newman40 said:Alright, I think we're on the same page here.

The reasons people enlist can be many—it could be those benefits, student loan assistance, a lack of other career options, or simply because some genuinely enjoy the lifestyle, while others just want to go out there and "kick ass."

So why the complaining when someone chooses a profession where you could actually lose your life? It seems like people want to enjoy the perks while everything is peaceful, but as soon as they're expected to be on the front lines, suddenly there's an outcry. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're fully aware of the types of conflicts you might find yourself in, then maybe that specific path isn't for you.

Yes, losing young lives is a tragedy, without question, but didn't they choose this career path themselves?

Do you even realize how many of those kids get hooked by recruiters standing right outside the high school gates, calling their parents every single day, or promising them they won't end up in Iraq only to ship them off right after basic training? Stop talking nonsense.👎

Ashley Rogers4 said:Honestly, this is just some total nonsense from Smalltown, USA.

I mean, is your son-in-law planning on liberating Iran too, once he’s finished playing hero in Iraq and Afghanistan?😁 😁

brightcobra10 said:Do you even realize how many of those kids get hooked by recruiters standing right outside the high school gates, calling their parents every single day, or promising them they won't end up in Iraq only to ship them off right after basic training? Stop talking nonsense.👎

Kids just can't sign contracts! It’s one of those things that seems obvious until you really think about it, right? Just a little heads-up for anyone wondering about the legal side of things—minors aren't legally allowed to bind themselves to agreements like that here in the States.

Ashley Rogers4 said:Kids just can't sign contracts! It’s one of those things that seems obvious until you really think about it, right? Just a little heads-up for anyone wondering about the legal side of things—minors aren't legally allowed to bind themselves to agreements like that here in the States.

So wait, does that mean an 18-year-old can sign a binding contract but still isn't allowed to grab a beer at a local pub?😲

brightcobra10 said:So wait, does that mean an 18-year-old can sign a binding contract but still isn't allowed to grab a beer at a local pub?😲

Honestly, I haven't heard of anyone signing up right at 18. Even if they did, once you're an adult, you're on your own—if you trip and fall, that's on you! Plus, US forces aren't anything like the Mexicans or Russians used to be. Seriously, someone tell Alja we need more troops! Specialists only deploy after really intense preparation.

I was actually hanging out with a guy this past Saturday who just got back from Iraq. He's 27, Black, and before that, he was stationed over in Pittsburgh because they were working on some stuff for the US in Canada. He told me he actually had a harder time in Pittsburgh than he did in Iraq! The heat there was just brutal, and without any air conditioning, he felt like he was drying out like a piece of cod. The only thing that kept him going was the vibe in Osijek—they’re actually planning to put up a monument for him...

brightcobra10 said:Do you even realize how many of those kids get hooked by recruiters standing right outside the high school gates, calling their parents every single day, or promising them they won't end up in Iraq only to ship them off right after basic training? Stop talking nonsense.👎

I’m not sure who’s talking nonsense here. Nobody is forcing you to join the military. Sure, those recruiters might stand outside the high school promising you the world, but at the end of the day, I’m the one who decides if I’m stepping up or not. It’s like when Jehovah's Witnesses show up at your front door—they can knock all they want, but it’s entirely up to you whether you listen to them or just slam the door in their face.

FIVE BEERS!!!!!!!!!!! MAN! FIVE, FIVE BEERS!!!

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Jamie Newman40 said:I’m not sure who’s talking nonsense here. Nobody is forcing you to join the military. Sure, those recruiters might stand outside the high school promising you the world, but at the end of the day, I’m the one who decides if I’m stepping up or not. It’s like when Jehovah's Witnesses show up at your front door—they can knock all they want, but it’s entirely up to you whether you listen to them or just slam the door in their face.

Are you suggesting that these kids are being brainwashed? I mean, I get that nobody is physically dragging them off to basic training, but...😲

RedFly said:I really don't see how Bush's background has anything to do with the diaspora.😕

If you aren't happy with where you've landed—whether it's the USA, Canada, or the USA—then just head back home to the States and try fighting for your rights and a decent life right here on American soil....

It’s easy to sit there and philosophize about things happening "somewhere else"...

As far as wars are concerned, they're all driven by money... just look at how much of a mess Germany was before WWII, or how the economy was in k****, and so on...
Personally, I might head out to Iraq or Kuwait for about a month... and I'm going there to make some US dollars that I'll eventually spend back home in the States... and honestly, I don't give a damn about the locals over there. When the conflict broke out in Canada, nobody stepped up to help us except for Americans (just think back to Operation Storm...), and even then, they were mostly acting out of their own interests through NATO and stuff like that...

So, Vilko STFU.... either move back to the States so you can experience what it's actually like here.... I'm already sick to death of you constantly whining... how hard everything is for you... blah, blah, blah... just shut it....😈Edit:

I know a lot of people are going to jump down my throat for this... but while I am against war, and against this consumerist society we live in, and plenty of other things... given my own convictions, my patriotism, and all that, I simply cannot meet all my financial obligations, which forces me to work abroad... I make good money in the States, but it's just not enough... so why grind away for maybe $1,500 when I can do the exact same job for $7,000 or $8,000 "net"...

pozdraf

First off, I agree with you that every single war is fueled by economics and the desire to dictate terms to the rest of the world—which is pretty much exactly what the USA and Americans want to do now, too.

As for me, I've been an intentional emigrant since the mid-60s, and I've been posting on forums for the last eight years.... before that, I never bothered to elaborate or argue with anyone because I was way too busy working and didn't have the time.
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So, Vilko STFU.... or just move back to the States and see for yourself how things work here.... I'm tired of hearing you moan about how difficult your life is... blah, blah, blah... just stop it....😈Edit:
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Everything I write regarding my personal life is true, and I have the proof to back it up... I'm never bragging about being wealthy, because I'm not, nor am I crying about how bad things are; I'm just presenting the reality of what it's like to be a "normal retiree"... someone who hasn't had much luck with their health and still faces massive medical expenses.

I never intended to move back to Washington, D.C., and I'm the one who got shut down by various people when I wrote about how difficult life is in America for most workers and retirees.

So, that's all there is to my "whining," blah, blah, whatever...
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P.S. even though I've been away for a long time, I don't write "pozdraf"—even if it sounds like that—I write "regards"... we used to say "pozdrafljali" back in the day... those old-timers from the D.C. area and surroundings.

Good luck with your crusade for a better life.

regards, Vilko

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brightcobra10 said:Are you suggesting that these kids are being brainwashed? I mean, I get that nobody is physically dragging them off to basic training, but...😲

I’d like to think they have enough sense to think for themselves. At the end of the day, they’re adults and can make their own choices. Compared to something like the Church, which starts recruiting people from the time they can barely walk—long before they even have a concept of self-awareness or independent thought—these kids are practically infants. So, if we're going to talk about manipulation, let's look at the bigger picture.

Jamie Newman40 said:I’d like to think they have enough sense to think for themselves. At the end of the day, they’re adults and can make their own choices. Compared to something like the Church, which starts recruiting people from the time they can barely walk—long before they even have a concept of self-awareness or independent thought—these kids are practically infants. So, if we're going to talk about manipulation, let's look at the bigger picture.

not even going to comment on that...👍 👍 🙏 🙏

Jamie Newman40 said:I’d like to think they have enough sense to think for themselves. At the end of the day, they’re adults and can make their own choices. Compared to something like the Church, which starts recruiting people from the time they can barely walk—long before they even have a concept of self-awareness or independent thought—these kids are practically infants. So, if we're going to talk about manipulation, let's look at the bigger picture.

You've got a point there, but it really comes down to how much brainpower an eighteen-year-old actually possesses; I was just watching some documentary on it over at LinkTV, which is why it's on my mind. And as for the whole Church thing, look, I'm not exactly a believer myself, but at least they aren't sending people off to die in wars just yet.😁 😁

Whether you grab the DVD or just stream it, it runs about an hour and twenty minutes, and I honestly sat through the whole thing; I’d tell anyone who hasn't seen it yet that they really ought to check it out.

http://www.loose-change-911.com/

william

🙂 😉

William Morales said:Whether you grab the DVD or just stream it, it runs about an hour and twenty minutes, and I honestly sat through the whole thing; I’d tell anyone who hasn't seen it yet that they really ought to check it out.

http://www.loose-change-911.com/

william

🙂 😉

And how does this relate to the topic, Bill? 🙄 😁

brightcobra10 said:You've got a point there, but it really comes down to how much brainpower an eighteen-year-old actually possesses; I was just watching some documentary on it over at LinkTV, which is why it's on my mind. And as for the whole Church thing, look, I'm not exactly a believer myself, but at least they aren't sending people off to die in wars just yet.😁 😁

They sent them whenever they could. Have you ever looked into the Crusades and just how long those conflicts dragged on?

When someone hits eighteen, they are legally considered an adult, regardless of their actual maturity level. Of course, if someone has a significant cognitive disability (which is determined by medical professionals), then they aren't fit for military service any more than they would be for any other type of job.

Now, look, I'm not trying to take a side on war or get political here. My point is simply that people choose their own career paths and carry the responsibility for those decisions. I don't see anyone criticizing professions like long-haul trucking, even though truckers face risks that are statistically much higher than what soldiers deal with.

If someone decides to join the military, they are doing so of their own free will and for the reasons I mentioned earlier; they should be fully aware of both the benefits and the inherent risks that come with the territory. Naturally, the government has a duty to provide maximum protection to these service members to preserve their lives, and for the most part, that is what happens. But honestly, the best way to stay safe is to avoid combat altogether, but if you aren't prepared for that, then you shouldn't enlist. It's like saying the best way to avoid a car accident is to never drive. If you make a conscious decision to get behind the wheel of a car, and you also make a conscious decision to join the military, how is there really a difference between those two choices?