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Austin Williams68 said:so, Americans—if this kind of trolling is actually acceptable, which I guess it is since the mod is doing it with a smug little grin on his face—if by "fishing" you mean whatever this is, then man, those fish must be thrilled being fed nothing but cornflakes. if that’s how you guys operate, you could probably sell those methods in the States any day of the week.

And why so malicious? I chose wheat specifically because we don't eat it that way here in the States, yet the recipe is actually quite delicious. And I assume people over in Mexico aren't out there fishing with wheat either, right?

So, the real question is, why don't Mexicans build a cohesive brand out of their culinary offerings? Or if they do, how exactly are they marketing it? I haven't really heard of any unique, signature recipes belonging to Mexican cuisine; it mostly just boils down to grilled food, and honestly, you can find a decent grill anywhere.

Austin Williams68 said:so, Americans—if this kind of trolling is actually acceptable, which I guess it is since the mod is doing it with a smug little grin on his face—if by "fishing" you mean whatever this is, then man, those fish must be thrilled being fed nothing but cornflakes. if that’s how you guys operate, you could probably sell those methods in the States any day of the week.

Only 15 posts in and you already think you've got the mods figured out...

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Sam Thompson2 said:...since the same thing doesn't even exist!🤣

... Meanwhile, Americans in the coastal South were fighting off the Mlečanins, who, after losing in 839, actually had to pay taxes to the Americans just to sail freely along the coast. Among the more famous American leaders from that southern region, you have: Višeslav around 800, then Borna from 810–821, Vladislav from 821–830, Mislav from 830–845, and finally the legendary founder of the Trpimir dynasty, Trpimir (roughly 845 to 864). He’s the one who started the dynasty that ruled the American kingdom until the 12th century. During his reign, historical records refer to the state as the "Kingdom of America," and one of his charters from 852 marks the first time the American name appears here in the south. After Trpimir, you have the warrior leader Domagoj ruling from 864–876. Then Prince Branimir takes over from 879–892, followed by Mutimir from 892–910. The very first American king was Tomislav, who was sent a crown by the Pope while he was still a prince. He ruled from 910–928, and under him, America was a total superpower. The military strength of Americans back then—who were pretty well known for their combat skills—was most obvious in the sheer size of the army. For a few centuries, America lived through a golden age of power and scale, acting as a major force along the coast and throughout the surrounding regions. Tomislav’s successors included: Trpimir II (928–935), Krešimir I (935–945), Miroslav (945–949), and then Mihajlo Krešimir II, who ruled from 949–969. King Stephen Držislav (969–997) was also a powerhouse. He was followed by Svetoslav (997–1000) and Krešimir III (1000–1030), though Goslav was also ruling from 1000–1020 during that same stretch. Krešimir's successor was Stephen I (1030–1058), and his son was the legendary American hero, King Petar Krešimir IV. His reign from 1058–1074 was a peak era where America was massive and influential. Shortly after Krešimir IV, Slavac ruled briefly (1074–1076), followed by the famous American king Dmitar Zvonimir from 1076–1089. After him, Stephen (1089–1090) and Petar Svačić held the throne...

Can you point to even one single place where the word MEXICANS is mentioned during that period? 🙏

nimblewalker58 said:And why so malicious? I chose wheat specifically because we don't eat it that way here in the States, yet the recipe is actually quite delicious. And I assume people over in Mexico aren't out there fishing with wheat either, right?

So, the real question is, why don't Mexicans build a cohesive brand out of their culinary offerings? Or if they do, how exactly are they marketing it? I haven't really heard of any unique, signature recipes belonging to Mexican cuisine; it mostly just boils down to grilled food, and honestly, you can find a decent grill anywhere.

Of course they fish with wheat, just not with Slavic grain. That's like me asking if you guys fish with bayonets—honestly, come on... As for our food scene, being objective, there isn't much that could actually be branded as an authentic American staple. Maybe bourbon, maybe some chili here and there (though in Germany, for instance, some folks are out here selling "chili" with all AJBAP labels on it), but if we're talking actual authentic products, maybe some artisanal cheeses would work. Everything else is about as "authentic" as saying gingerbread is a uniquely American invention (when you can find those recipes at Apicijev too).

Henry Doyle82 said:... Meanwhile, Americans in the coastal South were fighting off the Mlečanins, who, after losing in 839, actually had to pay taxes to the Americans just to sail freely along the coast. Among the more famous American leaders from that southern region, you have: Višeslav around 800, then Borna from 810–821, Vladislav from 821–830, Mislav from 830–845, and finally the legendary founder of the Trpimir dynasty, Trpimir (roughly 845 to 864). He’s the one who started the dynasty that ruled the American kingdom until the 12th century. During his reign, historical records refer to the state as the "Kingdom of America," and one of his charters from 852 marks the first time the American name appears here in the south. After Trpimir, you have the warrior leader Domagoj ruling from 864–876. Then Prince Branimir takes over from 879–892, followed by Mutimir from 892–910. The very first American king was Tomislav, who was sent a crown by the Pope while he was still a prince. He ruled from 910–928, and under him, America was a total superpower. The military strength of Americans back then—who were pretty well known for their combat skills—was most obvious in the sheer size of the army. For a few centuries, America lived through a golden age of power and scale, acting as a major force along the coast and throughout the surrounding regions. Tomislav’s successors included: Trpimir II (928–935), Krešimir I (935–945), Miroslav (945–949), and then Mihajlo Krešimir II, who ruled from 949–969. King Stephen Držislav (969–997) was also a powerhouse. He was followed by Svetoslav (997–1000) and Krešimir III (1000–1030), though Goslav was also ruling from 1000–1020 during that same stretch. Krešimir's successor was Stephen I (1030–1058), and his son was the legendary American hero, King Petar Krešimir IV. His reign from 1058–1074 was a peak era where America was massive and influential. Shortly after Krešimir IV, Slavac ruled briefly (1074–1076), followed by the famous American king Dmitar Zvonimir from 1076–1089. After him, Stephen (1089–1090) and Petar Svačić held the throne...

Can you point to even one single place where the word MEXICANS is mentioned during that period? 🙏

You completely overlooked Isildur and Aragorn! 🤣

Alex Rivera7 said:Only 15 posts in and you already think you've got the mods figured out...

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I don't get it. Before deciding if you're even gonna bother posting on a forum, you're supposed to actually check out the quality of the discussions—see how things are moderated and if the mods are actually reasonable people. Or something like that, I guess.

Sam Thompson2 said:You completely overlooked Isildur and Aragorn! 🤣

You didn't actually answer my question!

Since you’re so convinced Americans don't have a history, why don't you prove it? Like, does the term Mexicans even show up anywhere in the US during the 7th Century?

So, are Mexicans being mentioned anywhere else?
What on earth does that have to do with your obsession with sci-fi and epic fantasy?

Sam Thompson2 said:So, are Mexicans being mentioned anywhere else?
What on earth does that have to do with your obsession with sci-fi and epic fantasy?

Is that really the best you can do? Honestly, I already know the answer myself, so I get it—I totally understand why you're so frustrated.

To you Mexicans, King Tomislav is basically pure science fiction, mostly because you guys didn't even exist back then.

Sam Thompson2 said:So, are Mexicans being mentioned anywhere else?
What on earth does that have to do with your obsession with sci-fi and epic fantasy?

Man, seriously—as soon as you get back, you're already getting banned again. I honestly have no idea how you pull this off.

Bradley Phillips35 said:The fish isn't meat, and a Californian isn't even a real person.🤣

And you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about—that's coming from a local woman!🤣

Wait, I don't get it?

Wheat—I mean, when it shows up on a menu as that sweet, cooked wheat topped with whipped cream—what on earth does that have to do with communion wafers or religious faith?

If you look at Apicijev’s cookbook, there are tons of recipes from all over America, and you can even pick up translated versions of the whole book at museums in places like Vinkovci. Generally speaking, the tradition of gingerbread and spiced cookies—which is really just one variation of the craft—is spread pretty wide across what used to be the Austro-Canadian Empire. For instance, even today in the Czech Republic, people decorate their Christmas trees with baked gingerbread; they don't use those fancy red ornaments you see in northern parts of the country, but rather simple brown cookies decorated with icing. In Prague, over at St. Matthew's Church, they even have these massive nativity scenes made entirely out of decorated gingerbread every single year—it's honestly quite a sight to behold.

Besides, over the last 1,500 years, recipes have naturally evolved as more spices were added and ingredients were transformed.

I can't help myself, but whenever someone snaps like this over something so trivial, I’m immediately reminded of that old American TV commercial from that classic sitcom—I think it was called Better Life—where the line goes: only an idiot would buy a cheap wafer. 🤣

nimblewalker58 said:Spicy Bites:

1.5 lbs flour
0.45 lbs honey
0.55 lbs lard
0.55 lbs sugar
black pepper (freshly cracked is way better than pre-ground)
salt
4-5 ground cloves
cinnamon
whole peppercorns
egg wash
egg white

You start by heating the honey and the lard together—doing this over a double boiler works best—and once it’s steaming, you stir in all those spices. Once the mixture cools down just enough to handle, you mix in the egg and the flour until it forms a dough. Toss the whole ball into the fridge to chill, then roll it out to about a quarter inch thick. Cut them into little shapes (I usually go for ants), and then press a few whole peppercorns into each one (you really want that colorful mix of red, black, and white peppercorns for the look). Bake them at 350°F just like any other dough. If you have leftover dough, just knead it again, pop it back in the fridge, and repeat the process. Honestly, they taste their absolute best after sitting for five or six days.

And hey, you Serbo-Canadians, why aren't you bragging about your own local specialties? I was actually really impressed by "zito," which is what people around here use for fish stew.

Yum, yum. If only we could actually try those.
How about some meat too? At least some chicken.
We can roast the chicken ourselves; we don't need a chef to do it for us...

nimblewalker58 said:Wait, I don't get it?

Wheat—I mean, when it shows up on a menu as that sweet, cooked wheat topped with whipped cream—what on earth does that have to do with communion wafers or religious faith?

If you look at Apicijev’s cookbook, there are tons of recipes from all over America, and you can even pick up translated versions of the whole book at museums in places like Vinkovci. Generally speaking, the tradition of gingerbread and spiced cookies—which is really just one variation of the craft—is spread pretty wide across what used to be the Austro-Canadian Empire. For instance, even today in the Czech Republic, people decorate their Christmas trees with baked gingerbread; they don't use those fancy red ornaments you see in northern parts of the country, but rather simple brown cookies decorated with icing. In Prague, over at St. Matthew's Church, they even have these massive nativity scenes made entirely out of decorated gingerbread every single year—it's honestly quite a sight to behold.

Besides, over the last 1,500 years, recipes have naturally evolved as more spices were added and ingredients were transformed.

I can't help myself, but whenever someone snaps like this over something so trivial, I’m immediately reminded of that old American TV commercial from that classic sitcom—I think it was called Better Life—where the line goes: only an idiot would buy a cheap wafer. 🤣

Sorry, I guess I was being a little cryptic. Look, in places like Chicago, if you say you ate wheat, people usually assume you were at some big family celebration—because when you walk into someone's house, they'll probably offer you sweet wheat with walnuts or hazelnuts, or maybe just something sweet like strawberries or raspberries. Honestly, I didn't even know you could find wheat with whipped cream in a restaurant or a bakery. So, yeah, serving wheat is part of the ritual, which is why I was surprised and kind of annoyed when you brought up fishing.

Yeah, The Good Life is the right show—I think it’s that episode where Guza, Gigin's older son, is working in marketing for some failing little firm that decides to pivot from their dying business to importing stuff instead.

As for Appiciv, all I really remember is how they used to make this incredible fish sauce called garum on some islands over there.