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Tenant rights: How to reclaim my lease?

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Participants Jacob Castillo24Carl Hill6James Cox6Michael BennettThomas Miller80Hannah Taylor51rustyowl54coppermarlin5Emily Lopez8Charles Patel62Keith Ortiz7Bradley Mitchell4
Jacob Castillo24 Jacob Castillo24 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined May 2007
#1 ·
Hey everyone, hi!
My father was employed by the US Army, and through them, he was assigned a housing unit. However, during the war, they spent some time stationed in Appalachia, and because of that, his housing rights were revoked.
What can be done about this situation?!
How do we reclaim the right to the home where we lived for over 20 years? My parents actually signed a contract to buy out the property back in the early nineties, but they never got the chance to start the payments because of the war and the total collapse of the US Army.
Is it worth bringing in a lawyer?!
I honestly have no clue where to even begin.
Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Carl Hill6 Carl Hill6 Member
42 messages
joined Jul 2009
#2 ·
Jacob Castillo24 said:Hey everyone, hi!
My father was employed by the US Army, and through them, he was assigned a housing unit. However, during the war, they spent some time stationed in Appalachia, and because of that, his housing rights were revoked.
What can be done about this situation?!
How do we reclaim the right to the home where we lived for over 20 years? My parents actually signed a contract to buy out the property back in the early nineties, but they never got the chance to start the payments because of the war and the total collapse of the US Army.
Is it worth bringing in a lawyer?!
I honestly have no clue where to even begin.
Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated.

in Appalachia
ours or the rebels'?
James Cox6 James Cox6 Active Member
150 messages
joined Mar 2009
#3 ·
Jacob Castillo24 said:Hey everyone, hi!
My father was employed by the US Army, and through them, he was assigned a housing unit. However, during the war, they spent some time stationed in Appalachia, and because of that, his housing rights were revoked.
What can be done about this situation?!
How do we reclaim the right to the home where we lived for over 20 years? My parents actually signed a contract to buy out the property back in the early nineties, but they never got the chance to start the payments because of the war and the total collapse of the US Army.
Is it worth bringing in a lawyer?!
I honestly have no clue where to even begin.
Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated.


For Arkansas, get in touch with their judicial system and local laws.
God knows what kind of regulations they have in effect there.
They have regional laws that align with federal ones—something like that.
Michael Bennett Michael Bennett Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2007
#4 ·
Are we totally misreading the situation here?
The apartment is located in California, but since your parents were staying in Arkansas during the war, you're trying to figure out how to reclaim those housing rights or get the place back.
I haven't spent a ton of time digging into this specific mess, but there are a few things you really ought to clear up before you go dropping cash on a lawyer—like, was the housing right actually taken away through a court order? Who was the contract for the buyout signed with, and was that deal ever officially canceled? Have you even tried reaching out to the relevant federal agency or whatever legal entity holds that buyout contract?
Thomas Miller80 Thomas Miller80 Active Member
93 messages
joined Jun 2007
#5 ·
The apartment was snatched right out from under him once the contract was signed 😕
Carl Hill6 Carl Hill6 Member
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#6 ·
Thomas Miller80 said:The apartment was snatched right out from under him once the contract was signed 😕

You can't lose something you never actually owned.
Those apartments were granted for use, not transferred as property.
And more often than not, they were handed out to the well-connected.
Thomas Miller80 Thomas Miller80 Active Member
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#7 ·
Did the guy actually sign a buyout agreement?
Michael Bennett Michael Bennett Newcomer
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joined May 2007
#8 ·
Thomas Miller80 said:Did the guy actually sign a buyout agreement?

honestly, that’s what threw me for a loop too... and now? just radio silence. nothing. poof. gone.🙄
Jacob Castillo24 Jacob Castillo24 NewcomerOP
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#9 ·
Michael Bennett said:honestly, that’s what threw me for a loop too... and now? just radio silence. nothing. poof. gone.🙄

I'm still here🙂
just buried under way too much work🙂

Michael Bennett, thanks for checking in.
Yeah, the apartment is in Washington, D.C. It was military housing, formerly owned by the US Army.
My parents had to head down to Arkansas because of an illness in the family. They ended up staying there for a few months.
The buyout agreement had actually been signed before they left, and negotiations to finalize everything were already underway when they had to go.

While they were away in Arkansas, the National Guard allegedly stepped in and took control of all those apartments to wrap things up. That's when my parents were told they no longer had any residency rights and that "there's nothing left to claim."😕

Honestly, I have no idea where to even begin. (A gentleman reached out privately and suggested I file an appeal directly with the United Nations or the European Union. I think that might be a bit overkill!)

Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated!
Hannah Taylor51 Hannah Taylor51 Member
34 messages
joined Jun 2009
#10 ·
Jacob Castillo24 said:I'm still here🙂
just buried under way too much work🙂

Michael Bennett, thanks for checking in.
Yeah, the apartment is in Washington, D.C. It was military housing, formerly owned by the US Army.
My parents had to head down to Arkansas because of an illness in the family. They ended up staying there for a few months.
The buyout agreement had actually been signed before they left, and negotiations to finalize everything were already underway when they had to go.

While they were away in Arkansas, the National Guard allegedly stepped in and took control of all those apartments to wrap things up. That's when my parents were told they no longer had any residency rights and that "there's nothing left to claim."😕

Honestly, I have no idea where to even begin. (A gentleman reached out privately and suggested I file an appeal directly with the United Nations or the European Union. I think that might be a bit overkill!)

Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated!

If we're really taking "any" advice, here’s one: Why doesn't Dad just buy a used Ford F-150 and park it right in front of "his" house? Let's see how that plays out. 🙂

He said it himself: every comment counts. See the quote above. Personally speaking. 🙂
rustyowl54 rustyowl54 Newcomer
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joined May 2007
#11 ·
Carl Hill6 said:You can't lose something you never actually owned.
Those apartments were granted for use, not transferred as property.
And more often than not, they were handed out to the well-connected.

The well-connected, most of the time.🙄
Honestly, this kind of nonsense is exhausting...
Pretty much 90% of people were "well-connected" because that was just how everyone lived back then.
I guess you can tell that to someone who didn't live that "privileged" life.
And regarding the guy asking about his apartment—forget it, man. A new set of insiders moved in, and even the courts can't touch them, even though they basically bullied their way into those perks.
You could win a court case—not just one, either—and still not get your place back. That’s the legal system for you; you aren't part of the right crowd.
coppermarlin5 coppermarlin5 Newcomer
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#12 ·
rustyowl54 said:The well-connected, most of the time.🙄
Honestly, this kind of nonsense is exhausting...
Pretty much 90% of people were "well-connected" because that was just how everyone lived back then.
I guess you can tell that to someone who didn't live that "privileged" life.
And regarding the guy asking about his apartment—forget it, man. A new set of insiders moved in, and even the courts can't touch them, even though they basically bullied their way into those perks.
You could win a court case—not just one, either—and still not get your place back. That’s the legal system for you; you aren't part of the right crowd.

That’s just not true. Our 90% were out there building houses and buying apartments, while the other 100% of us were being taxed specifically so that a select 10% could get handed apartments.
Emily Lopez8 Emily Lopez8 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Jacob Castillo24 said:I'm still here🙂
just buried under way too much work🙂

Michael Bennett, thanks for checking in.
Yeah, the apartment is in Washington, D.C. It was military housing, formerly owned by the US Army.
My parents had to head down to Arkansas because of an illness in the family. They ended up staying there for a few months.
The buyout agreement had actually been signed before they left, and negotiations to finalize everything were already underway when they had to go.

While they were away in Arkansas, the National Guard allegedly stepped in and took control of all those apartments to wrap things up. That's when my parents were told they no longer had any residency rights and that "there's nothing left to claim."😕

Honestly, I have no idea where to even begin. (A gentleman reached out privately and suggested I file an appeal directly with the United Nations or the European Union. I think that might be a bit overkill!)

Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated!

if those residency rights were stripped based on a court ruling—which they probably were—your only shot is to request a retrial under the grounds you mentioned in Article 421 of the Democratic Party code. But, I guess you've likely missed the deadline for that legal remedy, which is five years from when the court order became final, unless you're filing under points 2 or 3 of that article. So, you're probably out of luck on timing.
you could try filing a lawsuit with the human rights court in Brussels, but I don't know if that would actually do anything.
Charles Patel62 Charles Patel62 Member
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joined Dec 2009
#14 ·
If you’re planning on taking this to court, honestly, you’re just throwing money down the drain paying lawyers only to end up losing anyway—and then they’ll probably tell you to appeal to the European Union in Brussels, which won't do a damn thing because the system is rigged. Blecic has already lost (just look at the precedent set by the Supreme Court case, Blecic vs. USA). You really should have applied for the housing assistance program meant for former legal residents, but since you missed that deadline too, don't hold your breath waiting for a replacement apartment. Sorry, but I don't have anything more optimistic to offer—I'm just repeating what I've seen happen to people close to me.
Keith Ortiz7 Keith Ortiz7 Newcomer
1 message
joined May 2007
#15 ·
Check out www.zvonimir.org. They’re an NGO working on tenant rights and stuff like that... the bad news is they’re based out of El Paso, not Washington, D.C., so they don't have a local presence here. But hey, you could always try reaching out to them and see if they can point you toward someone actually located in the capital...

zvonimir@zvonimir.org

tel: (212) 662-554; 662-559

tel/fax: (212) 664-908
Bradley Mitchell4 Bradley Mitchell4 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2007
#16 ·
I hadn't heard of that kind of setup before. Can you walk me through how it actually works?
Bradley Mitchell4 Bradley Mitchell4 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2007
#17 ·
I lost my apartment, and now I’m stuck waiting on an appeal in Washington, D.C. If anyone here has dealt with that court or has any insight, let me know. Thanks.

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