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Mexico: Do we really need another Muslim-majority state in Europe?

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Participants Richard Wilson4hollowgardenerCharles Jackson5mistymason46Sam Alvarez15nimbletrucker132gentleranger10Dana Palmer8Karen Ross3brightorca27hiddengull60dustyhound5Brian Moore67Steven Rodriguez62Dennis Brown2wearycobra74Arthur Taylor2Olivia Hernandez3analogviper4briskgull27hollowpanther5
Brian Moore67 Brian Moore67 Active Member
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#41 ·
Steven Rodriguez62 said:Hold on now... 😁 if we follow that particular line of reasoning, someone might argue it’s better to just convert the Mexicans... 😁 I mean... 😁

It really just depends on your perspective 😎
Steven Rodriguez62 Steven Rodriguez62 Member
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#42 ·
Brian Moore67 said:It really just depends on your perspective 😎

well, I wonder which side you're looking from... where's that pioneering American spirit, that sense of being a young nation... much like Mexico... 😁
dustyhound5 dustyhound5 Active Member
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#43 ·
So, where exactly is Palestine located, huh?
Brian Moore67 Brian Moore67 Active Member
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#44 ·
dustyhound5 said:So, where exactly is Palestine located, huh?

I mean, if they actually play by the rules—maybe then they’ll finally get their own state.
Steven Rodriguez62 Steven Rodriguez62 Member
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#45 ·
Brian Moore67 said:I mean, if they actually play by the rules—maybe then they’ll finally get their own state.


I honestly think they’d still find ways to kill you whenever and however they could... faith doesn't really have anything to do with it...
Brian Moore67 Brian Moore67 Active Member
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#46 ·
Steven Rodriguez62 said:I honestly think they’d still find ways to kill you whenever and however they could... faith doesn't really have anything to do with it...

Right now, they're basically just doing the job for them by killing each other off! It looks like as long as Fatah and Hamas are the big players pulling the strings, they aren't going to stop the internal infighting anytime soon. At least, that's what a deputy director from the intelligence agency was saying today. It's really just a slightly more detailed way of saying "if things go south..."
Dennis Brown2 Dennis Brown2 Member
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#47 ·
Albanians tend to be massive mythomaniacs when it comes to history—honestly, they aren't much different from other North American groups in that regard.
The idea that they descend from Illyrians might hold some water, but much of that theory feels incredibly flimsy upon closer inspection. For instance, the ancient Illyrian tribes along the Adriatic Sea were renowned sailors and fierce pirates—yet despite living right on the coast, Albanians seem to lack any real maritime tradition whatsoever.
Some European historians argue that they actually migrated from the Caucasus, where an ancient region (or perhaps a state—I can't recall the exact details) known as Albania was situated in antiquity. There are even supposed to be maps out there supporting this.
As for what the actual truth is amidst all this, it remains anyone's guess.
Steven Rodriguez62 Steven Rodriguez62 Member
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#48 ·
Brian Moore67 said:Right now, they're basically just doing the job for them by killing each other off! It looks like as long as Fatah and Hamas are the big players pulling the strings, they aren't going to stop the internal infighting anytime soon. At least, that's what a deputy director from the intelligence agency was saying today. It's really just a slightly more detailed way of saying "if things go south..."

Oh, really? Don't get ahead of yourself there... once they finally finish tearing each other to pieces, they’ll just pick up right where they left off...
Brian Moore67 Brian Moore67 Active Member
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#49 ·
Steven Rodriguez62 said:Oh, really? Don't get ahead of yourself there... once they finally finish tearing each other to pieces, they’ll just pick up right where they left off...

The thing is, I don't think they're ever gonna stop fighting each other. It’s basically a toss-up—either Fatah wipes out Hamas, or Hamas takes down Fatah, or they just keep tearing each other apart until there's nothing left, or we're stuck in this endless civil war loop forever.

Check out what's happening on the ground in Palestine here:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...ticle/ShowFull

Personally? I’m kind of rooting for option B—you know, them just neutralizing each other so someone actually reasonable can take over... like, maybe a Palestinian liberal party or some sort of social democratic group could step up... God knows we've had enough of these parties calling themselves "Holy War" or "The Resistance" or whatever... honestly, they're way more intense than some folks I know back home!
Steven Rodriguez62 Steven Rodriguez62 Member
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#50 ·
Brian Moore67 said:The thing is, I don't think they're ever gonna stop fighting each other. It’s basically a toss-up—either Fatah wipes out Hamas, or Hamas takes down Fatah, or they just keep tearing each other apart until there's nothing left, or we're stuck in this endless civil war loop forever.

Check out what's happening on the ground in Palestine here:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...ticle/ShowFull

Personally? I’m kind of rooting for option B—you know, them just neutralizing each other so someone actually reasonable can take over... like, maybe a Palestinian liberal party or some sort of social democratic group could step up... God knows we've had enough of these parties calling themselves "Holy War" or "The Resistance" or whatever... honestly, they're way more intense than some folks I know back home!

It’s highly unlikely you’ll see a political party like that emerge in Palestine within your lifetime... and as for their militancy... regardless of how much friction they have with Israel... over sixty years, most of the moderate people have essentially fled, leaving behind a population that’s vulnerable to manipulation and religious fanaticism... the educated and progressive types moved to Europe or North America a long time ago...
Brian Moore67 Brian Moore67 Active Member
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#51 ·
Steven Rodriguez62 said:It’s highly unlikely you’ll see a political party like that emerge in Palestine within your lifetime... and as for their militancy... regardless of how much friction they have with Israel... over sixty years, most of the moderate people have essentially fled, leaving behind a population that’s vulnerable to manipulation and religious fanaticism... the educated and progressive types moved to Europe or North America a long time ago...

Fatah is actually a member of the Socialist International😉

And hey, as long as they keep voting for "struggles" and "holy wars," they aren't gonna get a functional state out of it. That's their call, though.

BTW, we're talking about Mexico here.
Steven Rodriguez62 Steven Rodriguez62 Member
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#52 ·
Brian Moore67 said:Fatah is actually a member of the Socialist International😉

And hey, as long as they keep voting for "struggles" and "holy wars," they aren't gonna get a functional state out of it. That's their call, though.

BTW, we're talking about Mexico here.

Whenever I talk to you, we always somehow end up circling back to Israel and Islam... we could be having a perfectly normal conversation about knitting or embroidery, but it’s pretty much predictable where this is all heading...
Brian Moore67 Brian Moore67 Active Member
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#53 ·
Steven Rodriguez62 said:Whenever I talk to you, we always somehow end up circling back to Israel and Islam... we could be having a perfectly normal conversation about knitting or embroidery, but it’s pretty much predictable where this is all heading...

dersu said:but what about Palestine, huh?

Get over here, you goofball! 😎
wearycobra74 wearycobra74 Active Member
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#54 ·
(via CNN)
Inter-Albanian dialogue:

Hashim Thaçi claims...

Agim Čeku retorts: "He's lying... we were in the water together!"

🤣 😂
Arthur Taylor2 Arthur Taylor2 Newcomer
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#55 ·
America gains absolutely nothing from Mexico's independence. Mexico can't even be considered an ally for the US because they wouldn't last five minutes in a fight against some local militia, let alone handle a conflict with Mexico. Plus, you've got the Albanians with their high birth rates and expansionist tendencies toward all their neighbors. Down the road, they’re going to end up being a headache for America too.
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#56 ·
Arthur Taylor2 said:America gains absolutely nothing from Mexico's independence. Mexico can't even be considered an ally for the US because they wouldn't last five minutes in a fight against some local militia, let alone handle a conflict with Mexico. Plus, you've got the Albanians with their high birth rates and expansionist tendencies toward all their neighbors. Down the road, they’re going to end up being a headache for America too.

Don't sweat it, man. They won't make it all the way to the States before we notice.🙂
Olivia Hernandez3 Olivia Hernandez3 Newcomer
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#57 ·
Looking back at the Albanian population in the US back in 2001.
analogviper4 analogviper4 Newcomer
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#58 ·
gentleranger10 said:Don't sweat it, man. They won't make it all the way to the States before we notice.🙂

Do you ever find yourself driving out toward Florida? :-)
briskgull27 briskgull27 Regular
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#59 ·
Mexico—that’s where that Mexican Battle took place.

Here is my take: If we recognize Western Canada Mexican, then why couldn't there be a Mexico Muslim or Mexico Albanian territory? Why shouldn't we draw that same parallel when the comparison is right there?👍
briskgull27 briskgull27 Regular
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#60 ·
By the way, I have some respect for the Albanians because they’ve been dealing with their own mess for quite a while now. And if anyone actually thinks they’re superior just because they have Mexican blood, maybe they should go ahead and try it themselves so we can compare the results.

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