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What is Emotional Intelligence?
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#2 ·
So, you've got a copy of Emotional Intelligence? I'm pretty sure you can find it sitting on the shelf at any local public library if you want to check it out... but honestly, what part of it are you actually digging into?
#4 ·
Alright, look. We’ve already covered this topic before, even touched on the literature side of things. Honestly, if you can't even manage to type "emotional intelligence" into Google, then this whole conversation isn't worth anyone's time. I'm actually writing my high school senior thesis on this right now, so I've already spent way too much time digging into it, and I'm still researching. There are hundreds upon hundreds of pages on Google packed with useful info because the term only really hit the mainstream about 20 years ago, and it's still incredibly relevant today.
#7 ·
NAZI_18 said:I'm actually working on my senior thesis regarding this topic, so I was wondering if anyone here has already put together a full report.
Aha... so what you're really saying is you're looking for someone to just copy a senior thesis from...? 🙄
#8 ·
If you're interested in the current state of research regarding Emotional Intelligence here in the States, you should reach out to Professor Vladimir Takšić at the University of California, Berkeley. He specializes in this field and has even developed his own assessment tool.
#9 ·
Taylor Howard36 said:Aha... so what you're really saying is you're looking for someone to just copy a senior thesis from...? 🙄
Unlike the PhD programs over in the States,
it’s more like... emotional intelligence is just a bit of nonsense.
One way people describe intelligence is through its innate nature—that sense of being fixed (though, obviously, it follows brain function and the aging process, or growing up)
The term "emotional intelligence" feels far too susceptible to being lived through rather than measured.
I honestly suspect the phrase was cooked up back in '85 just to sound catchy by making an obvious allusion to IQ, and then it really took off in '95 when it started being sold side-by-side with those other books, you know? Like "How to Become a Millionaire," "How to Lose Weight Without Giving Up Everything," "How to Be Successful with Minimal Effort," and all that other stuff.
I'm not trying to say that things like individual social behavior don't exist, I'm just saying the term itself was quite a poorly conceived invention.
#10 ·
To be more precise, the concept of Emotional Intelligence was actually developed by Peter Salovey and John Mayer back in 1990.
While Robert Sternberg laid some of the groundwork for this idea in 1985, he didn't create the construct himself.
Daniel Goleman is the one who really brought it into the mainstream in 1998, though I doubt the original authors, Peter Salovey and John Mayer, saw much direct benefit from all that hype.
...I should also point out that the craze around the concept has definitely cooled off lately; you can see it in the declining number of academic papers being published compared to just a few years ago.
While Robert Sternberg laid some of the groundwork for this idea in 1985, he didn't create the construct himself.
Daniel Goleman is the one who really brought it into the mainstream in 1998, though I doubt the original authors, Peter Salovey and John Mayer, saw much direct benefit from all that hype.
...I should also point out that the craze around the concept has definitely cooled off lately; you can see it in the declining number of academic papers being published compared to just a few years ago.
#11 ·
But honestly, it’s become pretty trendy here over the last couple of years, don't you think?
Especially whenever people start throwing shade at IQ 😉
Especially whenever people start throwing shade at IQ 😉
#12 ·
I have my own reservations regarding IQ and the whole concept of intelligence, though I’m coming at it from a different angle than the typical EQ advocates.
(But that’s off-topic anyway), and I've already covered my thoughts on it elsewhere. I don't feel like repeating myself—it starts to feel like parroting.
(But that’s off-topic anyway), and I've already covered my thoughts on it elsewhere. I don't feel like repeating myself—it starts to feel like parroting.
#13 ·
I honestly feel like the whole concept of IQ is much better explained and far more theoretically sound than its counterpart,
first off, you can't really "study" your way into a high score (with EQ, you always end up facing the same set of questions, and even if you're just average, you kind of know what the "right" answer is supposed to be),
secondly, the tasks themselves are quite logical—they actually challenge you—and they mostly rely on single, unambiguous answers (I think I ran into one problem once in a much more advanced Raven's test where the answer felt ambiguous, at least to me), plus there's very little room for social or cultural bias to creep in,
thirdly, your intelligence stays pretty much with you throughout your entire life (sure, there are some fluctuations, but nothing major),
and fourthly, let’s be honest, we all love to brag about how smart we are, don't we?
I would love to see some massive study where we take those people we consider absolute geniuses and put them through actual testing.
If it turns out they actually have a higher IQ than the rest of the world, then we can finally say, "Yep, that's definitely it."
But if their scores are basically the same as everyone else's, then we can just admit the whole thing was nonsense.
first off, you can't really "study" your way into a high score (with EQ, you always end up facing the same set of questions, and even if you're just average, you kind of know what the "right" answer is supposed to be),
secondly, the tasks themselves are quite logical—they actually challenge you—and they mostly rely on single, unambiguous answers (I think I ran into one problem once in a much more advanced Raven's test where the answer felt ambiguous, at least to me), plus there's very little room for social or cultural bias to creep in,
thirdly, your intelligence stays pretty much with you throughout your entire life (sure, there are some fluctuations, but nothing major),
and fourthly, let’s be honest, we all love to brag about how smart we are, don't we?
I would love to see some massive study where we take those people we consider absolute geniuses and put them through actual testing.
If it turns out they actually have a higher IQ than the rest of the world, then we can finally say, "Yep, that's definitely it."
But if their scores are basically the same as everyone else's, then we can just admit the whole thing was nonsense.
#14 ·
I agree. The concept of traditional academic intelligence is far more established and extensively researched, though it’s been around for a century. EQ, by comparison, is a relatively recent arrival.
In my view, neither metric alone is sufficient to reliably predict someone's success.
The original architects of the EI concept define it as an ability, suggesting that EI might simply be one facet of general intelligence.
Under that original framework, we are looking at four distinct categories of abilities
1. Emotion Perception—the capacity to detect and interpret emotions through facial expressions, behavior, tone of voice, and cultural cues.
(Early research has already demonstrated that perceiving and experiencing basic emotions is a cross-cultural phenomenon.)
2. Emotion Facilitation—using emotions to direct thought processes and prioritize specific tasks.
3. Emotion Understanding—grasping emotional language and the complex relationships between different feelings.
4. Emotion Management—the ability to regulate both your own emotions and those of others.
These aspects of EI are interconnected and correlated; they aren't entirely independent skills. When it comes to measurement, the MSCEIT (Meyer-Salovey-Caruso Emotional Intelligence Test), developed in 2002, tends to yield the most robust results.
Much of the research suggests there is either no correlation between EQ and IQ, or if there is, it’s marginal at best.
For instance, Bastian et al. found a slight link between EQ and academic performance, but noted a connection between EI and life satisfaction, improved perception, and better problem-solving. However, once they controlled for personality traits and cognitive abilities, the actual impact of EI (measured via questionnaire) proved to be quite minimal. Essentially, variables like life satisfaction and coping mechanisms are more strongly tied to personality and core cognitive skills.
Schulte et al. identified a relatively high correlation between general intelligence and EI—around 0.45—while also noting a strong link between intelligence and certain personality dimensions based on the Big Five model. This leads them to question whether the concept of EI offers much practical utility.
Ruud van Rooy and Subramania Viswesvaran also observed a link between EI and general intelligence. Their correlation coefficient was significant at 0.23, but hardly large—representing only about 5% of the shared variance. Furthermore, the correlation between EI and personality dimensions never exceeded 0.34, accounting for roughly 12% of the shared variance.
Ultimately, EI—or EQ—still needs to prove its validity and utility. We have yet to determine if it is truly just an aspect of intelligence, as the original authors suggest, or if it should be treated as a standalone ability (assuming it proves itself useful).
(There is some food for thought for the OP.)
In my view, neither metric alone is sufficient to reliably predict someone's success.
The original architects of the EI concept define it as an ability, suggesting that EI might simply be one facet of general intelligence.
Under that original framework, we are looking at four distinct categories of abilities
1. Emotion Perception—the capacity to detect and interpret emotions through facial expressions, behavior, tone of voice, and cultural cues.
(Early research has already demonstrated that perceiving and experiencing basic emotions is a cross-cultural phenomenon.)
2. Emotion Facilitation—using emotions to direct thought processes and prioritize specific tasks.
3. Emotion Understanding—grasping emotional language and the complex relationships between different feelings.
4. Emotion Management—the ability to regulate both your own emotions and those of others.
These aspects of EI are interconnected and correlated; they aren't entirely independent skills. When it comes to measurement, the MSCEIT (Meyer-Salovey-Caruso Emotional Intelligence Test), developed in 2002, tends to yield the most robust results.
Much of the research suggests there is either no correlation between EQ and IQ, or if there is, it’s marginal at best.
For instance, Bastian et al. found a slight link between EQ and academic performance, but noted a connection between EI and life satisfaction, improved perception, and better problem-solving. However, once they controlled for personality traits and cognitive abilities, the actual impact of EI (measured via questionnaire) proved to be quite minimal. Essentially, variables like life satisfaction and coping mechanisms are more strongly tied to personality and core cognitive skills.
Schulte et al. identified a relatively high correlation between general intelligence and EI—around 0.45—while also noting a strong link between intelligence and certain personality dimensions based on the Big Five model. This leads them to question whether the concept of EI offers much practical utility.
Ruud van Rooy and Subramania Viswesvaran also observed a link between EI and general intelligence. Their correlation coefficient was significant at 0.23, but hardly large—representing only about 5% of the shared variance. Furthermore, the correlation between EI and personality dimensions never exceeded 0.34, accounting for roughly 12% of the shared variance.
Ultimately, EI—or EQ—still needs to prove its validity and utility. We have yet to determine if it is truly just an aspect of intelligence, as the original authors suggest, or if it should be treated as a standalone ability (assuming it proves itself useful).
(There is some food for thought for the OP.)
#15 ·
The link between EQ and IQ.
Just my two cents here—speculating a bit.
From what I can tell, IQ really comes down to perception and how fast you process what you see.
Basically, your brain looks at everything around you and flags it as either familiar or unknown,
and then decides if it’s dangerous or safe. If it picks up too many signals
that feel unknown or risky, it triggers fear—ranging from just a little
unease to full-on panic—just to get you away from "danger" as fast as possible.
Now, picture someone who perceives *everything* (super high sensitivity),
but doesn't have a fast enough processing speed to keep up.
That person is basically living in a state of constant anxiety.
On the flip side, someone who doesn't notice much but processes things lightning-fast
is going to be pretty chill, even in a "scary" environment.
So, the sheer amount of data you can process—that's IQ.
But the ratio between how much you perceive versus how much you process? That's EQ.
People who are highly perceptive are forced to develop higher intelligence just to cope,
basically leveling up their IQ to balance out the perception
and reach a sense of equilibrium—or, you know, actual happiness.
Just my two cents here—speculating a bit.
From what I can tell, IQ really comes down to perception and how fast you process what you see.
Basically, your brain looks at everything around you and flags it as either familiar or unknown,
and then decides if it’s dangerous or safe. If it picks up too many signals
that feel unknown or risky, it triggers fear—ranging from just a little
unease to full-on panic—just to get you away from "danger" as fast as possible.
Now, picture someone who perceives *everything* (super high sensitivity),
but doesn't have a fast enough processing speed to keep up.
That person is basically living in a state of constant anxiety.
On the flip side, someone who doesn't notice much but processes things lightning-fast
is going to be pretty chill, even in a "scary" environment.
So, the sheer amount of data you can process—that's IQ.
But the ratio between how much you perceive versus how much you process? That's EQ.
People who are highly perceptive are forced to develop higher intelligence just to cope,
basically leveling up their IQ to balance out the perception
and reach a sense of equilibrium—or, you know, actual happiness.
#16 ·
Keith Lee2 As specified by:
The relationship between EQ and IQ.
I suppose it’s my turn to throw some speculation into the ring.
I’ve noticed that IQ is largely dependent on perception and how quickly one can process what they perceive.
A solid starting point. This follows the path set by Francis Galton, who attempted to measure intelligence through reaction times and various other perceptual assessments.
Even by today's standards, certain intelligence assessments still rely on perceptual tasks, such as shape recognition or spotting differences between images.
Perception and the processing of what we perceive are necessary prerequisites, but they aren't enough to constitute intelligence on their own. It isn't always about handling raw sensory data. Often, we are dealing with the processing of abstract concepts, which is where perception plays its part. Technically speaking. Questionable.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "processing the perceived." Are you referring to how we handle abstract concepts that don't immediately hit our senses in such a direct way?
Keith Lee2 said:The link between EQ and IQ.
Just my two cents here—speculating a bit.
From what I can tell, IQ really comes down to perception and how fast you process what you see.
Basically, your brain looks at everything around you and flags it as either familiar or unknown,
and then decides if it’s dangerous or safe. If it picks up too many signals
that feel unknown or risky, it triggers fear—ranging from just a little
unease to full-on panic—just to get you away from "danger" as fast as possible.
Now, picture someone who perceives *everything* (super high sensitivity),
but doesn't have a fast enough processing speed to keep up.
That person is basically living in a state of constant anxiety.
On the flip side, someone who doesn't notice much but processes things lightning-fast
is going to be pretty chill, even in a "scary" environment.
So, the sheer amount of data you can process—that's IQ.
But the ratio between how much you perceive versus how much you process? That's EQ.
People who are highly perceptive are forced to develop higher intelligence just to cope,
basically leveling up their IQ to balance out the perception
and reach a sense of equilibrium—or, you know, actual happiness.
True. Much of this processing happens on an unconscious level—not in the Freudian sense, but at a physiological one involving the thalamic structures and the limbic system. It occurs incredibly fast. You feel the physical surge before you even consciously register the fear.
Keith Lee2 said:The link between EQ and IQ.
Just my two cents here—speculating a bit.
From what I can tell, IQ really comes down to perception and how fast you process what you see.
Basically, your brain looks at everything around you and flags it as either familiar or unknown,
and then decides if it’s dangerous or safe. If it picks up too many signals
that feel unknown or risky, it triggers fear—ranging from just a little
unease to full-on panic—just to get you away from "danger" as fast as possible.
Now, picture someone who perceives *everything* (super high sensitivity),
but doesn't have a fast enough processing speed to keep up.
That person is basically living in a state of constant anxiety.
On the flip side, someone who doesn't notice much but processes things lightning-fast
is going to be pretty chill, even in a "scary" environment.
So, the sheer amount of data you can process—that's IQ.
But the ratio between how much you perceive versus how much you process? That's EQ.
People who are highly perceptive are forced to develop higher intelligence just to cope,
basically leveling up their IQ to balance out the perception
and reach a sense of equilibrium—or, you know, actual happiness.
You aren't being clear here. What exactly do you mean by "high perception," and how are you defining "speed of perception"?
Keith Lee2 As specified by:
Someone who perceives poorly but processes information quickly will still struggle, even in an environment that feels more intimidating.
To be quite carefree.
It isn't just about how fast someone perceives things, and it certainly isn't always the case.
Keith Lee2 said:The link between EQ and IQ.
Just my two cents here—speculating a bit.
From what I can tell, IQ really comes down to perception and how fast you process what you see.
Basically, your brain looks at everything around you and flags it as either familiar or unknown,
and then decides if it’s dangerous or safe. If it picks up too many signals
that feel unknown or risky, it triggers fear—ranging from just a little
unease to full-on panic—just to get you away from "danger" as fast as possible.
Now, picture someone who perceives *everything* (super high sensitivity),
but doesn't have a fast enough processing speed to keep up.
That person is basically living in a state of constant anxiety.
On the flip side, someone who doesn't notice much but processes things lightning-fast
is going to be pretty chill, even in a "scary" environment.
So, the sheer amount of data you can process—that's IQ.
But the ratio between how much you perceive versus how much you process? That's EQ.
People who are highly perceptive are forced to develop higher intelligence just to cope,
basically leveling up their IQ to balance out the perception
and reach a sense of equilibrium—or, you know, actual happiness.
I could agree that IQ involves the volume of data, but also its accuracy. Impulsive people often process information quickly, but they frequently make mistakes.
As for EQ, I'm less certain because we are still talking about data processing, just different types of data. Based on your logic, EQ would involve perceiving and processing stimuli, but also interpreting them in alignment with an organism's homeostatic needs and environmental demands.
If we stick to the original definition, Emotional Intelligence is the ability to perceive, recognize, and manage emotions.
Keith Lee2 said:The link between EQ and IQ.
Just my two cents here—speculating a bit.
From what I can tell, IQ really comes down to perception and how fast you process what you see.
Basically, your brain looks at everything around you and flags it as either familiar or unknown,
and then decides if it’s dangerous or safe. If it picks up too many signals
that feel unknown or risky, it triggers fear—ranging from just a little
unease to full-on panic—just to get you away from "danger" as fast as possible.
Now, picture someone who perceives *everything* (super high sensitivity),
but doesn't have a fast enough processing speed to keep up.
That person is basically living in a state of constant anxiety.
On the flip side, someone who doesn't notice much but processes things lightning-fast
is going to be pretty chill, even in a "scary" environment.
So, the sheer amount of data you can process—that's IQ.
But the ratio between how much you perceive versus how much you process? That's EQ.
People who are highly perceptive are forced to develop higher intelligence just to cope,
basically leveling up their IQ to balance out the perception
and reach a sense of equilibrium—or, you know, actual happiness.
In my view, you're introducing a causal link here that isn't necessary. Someone with high perception doesn't intentionally "develop" intelligence to solve this problem, which is what your argument implies. Furthermore, you equate perception and processing with intelligence, yet then you suddenly introduce intelligence again as a separate factor.
One more thing... if you want to develop this concept, you have to find a way to operationalize and quantify it so it can be scientifically tested—even if it's just through a pen-and-paper test. You need to keep that in mind.
I'm being a bit critical—or rather, pointing out where I think your explanation falls short—not to discourage you, but to push you further. 🙂
I don't know what your professional background is, but you have potential. 👍
#17 ·
Gerald Rivera60 said:Keith Lee2 As specified by:
The relationship between EQ and IQ.
I suppose it’s my turn to throw some speculation into the ring.
I’ve noticed that IQ is largely dependent on perception and how quickly one can process what they perceive.
A solid starting point. This follows the path set by Francis Galton, who attempted to measure intelligence through reaction times and various other perceptual assessments.
Even by today's standards, certain intelligence assessments still rely on perceptual tasks, such as shape recognition or spotting differences between images.
Perception and the processing of what we perceive are necessary prerequisites, but they aren't enough to constitute intelligence on their own. It isn't always about handling raw sensory data. Often, we are dealing with the processing of abstract concepts, which is where perception plays its part. Technically speaking. Questionable.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "processing the perceived." Are you referring to how we handle abstract concepts that don't immediately hit our senses in such a direct way?
True. Much of this processing happens on an unconscious level—not in the Freudian sense, but at a physiological one involving the thalamic structures and the limbic system. It occurs incredibly fast. You feel the physical surge before you even consciously register the fear.
You aren't being clear here. What exactly do you mean by "high perception," and how are you defining "speed of perception"?Keith Lee2 As specified by:
Someone who perceives poorly but processes information quickly will still struggle, even in an environment that feels more intimidating.
To be quite carefree.
It isn't just about how fast someone perceives things, and it certainly isn't always the case.
I could agree that IQ involves the volume of data, but also its accuracy. Impulsive people often process information quickly, but they frequently make mistakes.
As for EQ, I'm less certain because we are still talking about data processing, just different types of data. Based on your logic, EQ would involve perceiving and processing stimuli, but also interpreting them in alignment with an organism's homeostatic needs and environmental demands.
If we stick to the original definition, Emotional Intelligence is the ability to perceive, recognize, and manage emotions.
In my view, you're introducing a causal link here that isn't necessary. Someone with high perception doesn't intentionally "develop" intelligence to solve this problem, which is what your argument implies. Furthermore, you equate perception and processing with intelligence, yet then you suddenly introduce intelligence again as a separate factor.
One more thing... if you want to develop this concept, you have to find a way to operationalize and quantify it so it can be scientifically tested—even if it's just through a pen-and-paper test. You need to keep that in mind.
I'm being a bit critical—or rather, pointing out where I think your explanation falls short—not to discourage you, but to push you further. 🙂
I don't know what your professional background is, but you have potential. 👍
It wasn't intentional or anything—just life forcing my hand.
Basically, if I pick up on way more details in my surroundings, then there's way more data
to crunch just to figure out if stuff is a "1" or a "0" (like, safe or dangerous).
If you live somewhere totally chill, but you notice every little thing and your brain
can't keep up with labeling everything as "safe," you're still gonna end up feeling anxious.
So, the brain gets flooded with input and is basically forced to handle a massive amount
of processing—which, I guess, forces it to develop intelligence.
Sadly, I'm just not fast enough at processing all that info, so I end up stuck in this weird spot
where I'm constantly on edge—basically lacking Emotional Intelligence.
I don't know what your background is, but you clearly know your stuff.
Just a sci-fi geek (speculator) here—thanks though.😁
#18 ·
Gerald Rivera60 said:Keith Lee2 As specified by:
The relationship between EQ and IQ.
I suppose it’s my turn to throw some speculation into the ring.
I’ve noticed that IQ is largely dependent on perception and how quickly one can process what they perceive.
A solid starting point. This follows the path set by Francis Galton, who attempted to measure intelligence through reaction times and various other perceptual assessments.
Even by today's standards, certain intelligence assessments still rely on perceptual tasks, such as shape recognition or spotting differences between images.
Perception and the processing of what we perceive are necessary prerequisites, but they aren't enough to constitute intelligence on their own. It isn't always about handling raw sensory data. Often, we are dealing with the processing of abstract concepts, which is where perception plays its part. Technically speaking. Questionable.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "processing the perceived." Are you referring to how we handle abstract concepts that don't immediately hit our senses in such a direct way?
True. Much of this processing happens on an unconscious level—not in the Freudian sense, but at a physiological one involving the thalamic structures and the limbic system. It occurs incredibly fast. You feel the physical surge before you even consciously register the fear.
You aren't being clear here. What exactly do you mean by "high perception," and how are you defining "speed of perception"?Keith Lee2 As specified by:
Someone who perceives poorly but processes information quickly will still struggle, even in an environment that feels more intimidating.
To be quite carefree.
It isn't just about how fast someone perceives things, and it certainly isn't always the case.
I could agree that IQ involves the volume of data, but also its accuracy. Impulsive people often process information quickly, but they frequently make mistakes.
As for EQ, I'm less certain because we are still talking about data processing, just different types of data. Based on your logic, EQ would involve perceiving and processing stimuli, but also interpreting them in alignment with an organism's homeostatic needs and environmental demands.
If we stick to the original definition, Emotional Intelligence is the ability to perceive, recognize, and manage emotions.
In my view, you're introducing a causal link here that isn't necessary. Someone with high perception doesn't intentionally "develop" intelligence to solve this problem, which is what your argument implies. Furthermore, you equate perception and processing with intelligence, yet then you suddenly introduce intelligence again as a separate factor.
One more thing... if you want to develop this concept, you have to find a way to operationalize and quantify it so it can be scientifically tested—even if it's just through a pen-and-paper test. You need to keep that in mind.
I'm being a bit critical—or rather, pointing out where I think your explanation falls short—not to discourage you, but to push you further. 🙂
I don't know what your professional background is, but you have potential. 👍
I don't think I was talking about speed when describing perception itself
but rather the processing of what's been perceived.
Basically, perception has a volume, while processing has the speed.
And just a heads up—if you want to dial back your perception to match your capacity for
processing—and actually boost your EQ, you'd probably need an anti-anxiety med
or, you know, just get hammered. (but that's more of a whole other conversation about alcoholism)
#19 ·
Keith Lee2 said:It wasn't intentional or anything—just life forcing my hand.
Basically, if I pick up on way more details in my surroundings, then there's way more data
to crunch just to figure out if stuff is a "1" or a "0" (like, safe or dangerous).
If you live somewhere totally chill, but you notice every little thing and your brain
can't keep up with labeling everything as "safe," you're still gonna end up feeling anxious.
So, the brain gets flooded with input and is basically forced to handle a massive amount
of processing—which, I guess, forces it to develop intelligence.
Sadly, I'm just not fast enough at processing all that info, so I end up stuck in this weird spot
where I'm constantly on edge—basically lacking Emotional Intelligence.I don't know what your background is, but you clearly know your stuff.
Just a sci-fi geek (speculator) here—thanks though.😁
Fair enough. I agree that sensory overload can definitely trigger feelings of discomfort or even fear.
The brain doesn't actually "develop" intelligence. At most, it might demonstrate intelligent behavior that stems from some underlying, latent capacity. Cognitive capacity is largely hardwired. You are simply as intelligent as you are. It isn't that the environment plays zero role, but the alternative implies my brain will suddenly sprout new intelligence just because I've been exposed to massive amounts of data. That isn't how it works.
3. Hmm... you’ve suddenly pivoted to Emotional Intelligence. In principle, it functions much like standard intelligence, except you're processing emotional data—whether that's your own internal state or reading the emotional expressions of everyone else around you.
I’m just not convinced that an inability to process information always, or even necessarily, results in a state of fear.
Keith Lee2 said:It wasn't intentional or anything—just life forcing my hand.
Basically, if I pick up on way more details in my surroundings, then there's way more data
to crunch just to figure out if stuff is a "1" or a "0" (like, safe or dangerous).
If you live somewhere totally chill, but you notice every little thing and your brain
can't keep up with labeling everything as "safe," you're still gonna end up feeling anxious.
So, the brain gets flooded with input and is basically forced to handle a massive amount
of processing—which, I guess, forces it to develop intelligence.
Sadly, I'm just not fast enough at processing all that info, so I end up stuck in this weird spot
where I'm constantly on edge—basically lacking Emotional Intelligence.I don't know what your background is, but you clearly know your stuff.
Just a sci-fi geek (speculator) here—thanks though.😁
It’s a fair point. It’s worth thinking about, and even speculating.
#20 ·
Keith Lee2 said:I don't think I was talking about speed when describing perception itself
but rather the processing of what's been perceived.
Basically, perception has a volume, while processing has the speed.
And just a heads up—if you want to dial back your perception to match your capacity for
processing—and actually boost your EQ, you'd probably need an anti-anxiety med
or, you know, just get hammered. (but that's more of a whole other conversation about alcoholism)
That brings up the question of how we process abstract concepts.
The bulk of information we receive arrives via language. Someone speaks, and that audio hits the primary auditory cortex for basic sensory processing. From there, those tones are synthesized into meaningful phonemes and sent deeper into the brain, where the vocal sequence is translated into a series of connected concepts. It then integrates into an existing semantic network, accounting for context and everything else.
At this stage, the processing of raw percepts is lost. When I say "I need to buy bread," I am not working with mental images or simulating the act of purchasing; I am operating with concepts. Everything stays at a symbolic level. This allows us to handle massive amounts of data. In fact, if we had to operate using raw mental representations, we would be much slower. Instead, we swap them for concepts—using a semantic network to perform our mental data processing.
We only rely on mental imagery when we lack specific skills or when we are learning something new and need to visualize it.
In most cases, perception acts merely as a trigger for processes within semantic networks.
(We need more "hard" cognitive psychology topics on this subforum)
Keith Lee2 said:I don't think I was talking about speed when describing perception itself
but rather the processing of what's been perceived.
Basically, perception has a volume, while processing has the speed.
And just a heads up—if you want to dial back your perception to match your capacity for
processing—and actually boost your EQ, you'd probably need an anti-anxiety med
or, you know, just get hammered. (but that's more of a whole other conversation about alcoholism)
Heh... interesting theory.
The pathway for processing emotional information is different from other types of data. Ultimately, the cortical regions handling that processing are distinct.
Take prosopagnosia, for example. It’s a specific disorder caused by a lesion in a certain part of the cortex, resulting in an inability to recognize faces despite having perfectly intact perception of everything else. A person with prosopagnosia can see a nose, eyes, and individual facial features, but they cannot synthesize them into a cohesive whole. Otherwise, their perception remains normal, no matter the complexity. This proves we have a dedicated center in the brain for this task. Evolution likely favored individuals who were better at recognizing faces—and the expressions on them—as it improved survival and reproduction.
(But now we're drifting into evolutionary biology... that's a topic for another day. Still, it's fascinating how evolution, emotion, perception, semantic networks, language, and social context all intertwine. It reminds me of how a French historian might say there is no history of France, only the history of Europe, and no history of Europe, only the history of the world)
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