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Thomas Rodriguez14 Thomas Rodriguez14 Member
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joined Jan 2009
#2061 ·
mistyranger18 said:Look, we dealt with a guy like this once, and I don't mean "dealing" as in a minor inconvenience—I mean we had serious problems. This individual would stalk me and several of my friends all over town, constantly threatening us, provoking us, attacking us, and even getting physical. Every single time, we’d just call the cops, and they’d pick him up for questioning... until the day he actually attacked someone with an axe. After that, every time he gets too close, we call 911. They haul him off to the psych ward, but then a week later, he’s out on the street and the whole cycle starts all over again. He can't be thrown in jail because he's deemed mentally ill, yet the hospital staff keeps discharging him. About six months ago, the police finally put their foot down and hauled him in, so he’s staying away for now. For now. The system is fundamentally broken. That said, cases like this are incredibly rare; most schizophrenic !!!!! are completely non-violent. The real danger arises when they stop taking their medication and start perceiving someone as a threat. At that point, they might lash out at whatever object or person they feel is endangering them. If they were actually adhering to their medication regimen, everything would be under control. If anyone ever threatens you, do not hesitate: report them to the police immediately. They will take him into custody and transport him to a facility where he'll be medicated and stabilized for at least a little while. That is truly the only move you have. And honestly? Carry some pepper spray for self-defense.


Right, but you clearly didn't get it—he isn't taking his pills, and apparently, he sees some imaginary figure—his description sounded like some kind of demon😲 and he told my friend that while we were both at the grocery store, then he just bolts home. I'm seriously worried he might do something to her if I'm stuck in the aisle alone
mistyranger18 mistyranger18 Newcomer
4 messages
joined May 2009
#2062 ·
Thomas Rodriguez14 said:Right, but you clearly didn't get it—he isn't taking his pills, and apparently, he sees some imaginary figure—his description sounded like some kind of demon😲 and he told my friend that while we were both at the grocery store, then he just bolts home. I'm seriously worried he might do something to her if I'm stuck in the aisle alone

Look, I'm telling you, if he keeps making threats, you need to call the police. They'll pick him up for questioning and most likely take him straight to a hospital where they can get him on the right meds so he stops acting crazy. And believe me, there is no harm in calling for help if things take a turn for the worse.
Donna Taylor68 Donna Taylor68 Member
31 messages
joined Apr 2021
#2063 ·
man, I've been lurking on this thread for a month now 😵 (yeah, yeah, I know—you're probably gonna call me an idiot, but honestly? This topic is actually pretty gripping, despite all the nonsense it drags in). Since I missed the last six freaking pages, I haven't even kept track of what your handle is anymore.
Bottom line: thumbs up 👍 you’re clearly sharp as a tack, and honestly, your sense of humor is top-tier.
I've got a few thoughts, so I'm gonna take the liberty of dropping them here.
I feel like you’re attributing way too much to the illness. A lot of what you're describing might just be your personality—like, hating people, being a total homebody, playing the "alien" card, or thinking you're the smartest person in the room. Hey, there are plenty of us like that without having a diagnosis 😉
Second off, it feels like you’re pretty consciously using your condition as a way to get your own way 👍 honestly, if I were in your shoes, I’d probably do the exact same thing.
Btw, I live near a major state hospital complex, so I know how things work—it's always been 😂 my thing. Those facilities look great from the outside, almost peaceful, but I know they're a complete DISASTER on the inside, just like most hospitals out there.
Anyway, how've you been? Haven't seen any posts from you in nearly a month—must have moved to a new URL or something.
Cheers, and hey, shoutout to Jack, I remember him from some other threads 😍
Oh, one more thing—that theory about weed triggering psychosis is hands down the dumbest thing I've ever heard. 🤣
Matthew Castillo5 Matthew Castillo5 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#2064 ·
Donna Taylor68 said:man, I've been lurking on this thread for a month now 😵 (yeah, yeah, I know—you're probably gonna call me an idiot, but honestly? This topic is actually pretty gripping, despite all the nonsense it drags in). Since I missed the last six freaking pages, I haven't even kept track of what your handle is anymore.
Bottom line: thumbs up 👍 you’re clearly sharp as a tack, and honestly, your sense of humor is top-tier.
I've got a few thoughts, so I'm gonna take the liberty of dropping them here.
I feel like you’re attributing way too much to the illness. A lot of what you're describing might just be your personality—like, hating people, being a total homebody, playing the "alien" card, or thinking you're the smartest person in the room. Hey, there are plenty of us like that without having a diagnosis 😉
Second off, it feels like you’re pretty consciously using your condition as a way to get your own way 👍 honestly, if I were in your shoes, I’d probably do the exact same thing.
Btw, I live near a major state hospital complex, so I know how things work—it's always been 😂 my thing. Those facilities look great from the outside, almost peaceful, but I know they're a complete DISASTER on the inside, just like most hospitals out there.
Anyway, how've you been? Haven't seen any posts from you in nearly a month—must have moved to a new URL or something.
Cheers, and hey, shoutout to Jack, I remember him from some other threads 😍
Oh, one more thing—that theory about weed triggering psychosis is hands down the dumbest thing I've ever heard. 🤣

Well, look, for the people who had a single joint act as a literal trigger for a psychotic break, it probably doesn't feel quite so hilarious.
Nobody is actually claiming that smoking weed is going to send everyone straight into psychosis. No. Some people can smoke their whole lives and never deal with a single psychotic episode.
Mark Stewart Mark Stewart Member
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joined Aug 2007
#2065 ·
I was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia.
I’ve been seeing psychiatrists since I was fifteen.
First, they called it an adolescent crisis, then BPD,
and now, it's schizophrenia.
For most of the year, I'm pretty much non-functional because
paranoia and hallucinations tend to hit me frequently,
and when those subside, I'm left dealing with negative symptoms.
I attend psychotherapy sessions every week,
and my current medication regimen includes:

Zyprexa 500mg
Risperdal 4mg
Paxil 45mg
Lamictal 75mg
Depakote 1000mg
Xanax 0.5 mg
Valium 30mg

Best regards.
crimsonheron80 crimsonheron80 Active Member
103 messages
joined Apr 2009
#2066 ·
Mark Stewart said:I was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia.
I’ve been seeing psychiatrists since I was fifteen.
First, they called it an adolescent crisis, then BPD,
and now, it's schizophrenia.
For most of the year, I'm pretty much non-functional because
paranoia and hallucinations tend to hit me frequently,
and when those subside, I'm left dealing with negative symptoms.
I attend psychotherapy sessions every week,
and my current medication regimen includes:

Zyprexa 500mg
Risperdal 4mg
Paxil 45mg
Lamictal 75mg
Depakote 1000mg
Xanax 0.5 mg
Valium 30mg

Best regards.

🙏🙏🙏🙏 taking one more than I am
ironviper76 ironviper76 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2009
#2067 ·
So, I’ve been digging back into Edgar Cayce's takes on schizophrenia, and honestly, it’s a lot to wrap your head around... It isn't just some simple chemical imbalance that you can fix with a quick pill or a change in diet. According to his readings, the whole thing is much more layered—almost like a collision between different planes of existence. He also acknowledged the mental and spiritual aspects of the disorder, which really changes how you look at the "symptoms." It wasn't just about what was happening in someone's brain, but how their entire being was reacting to certain pressures. Within the physical body, multiple systems are usually involved in the schizophrenic process, creating this intense, overwhelming feedback loop... And let's be real, we can't ignore the trigger. Stress is often an important etiological factor in the production of schizophrenic symptoms. It’s like the system reaches a breaking point where it just can't bridge the gap anymore. He basically argued that the human body contains interfaces with spiritual and men, and when those connections get frayed or overloaded, things start to fracture... It's heavy stuff, especially when you realize how much he believed the mind and spirit were driving the bus in these cases...

Edgar Cayce provided quite a few psychic readings for individuals dealing with schizophrenia. Interestingly enough, he actually never used that specific term. Back in his day, the medical community went by a different label: "dementia praecox." In those old clinical terms, "dementia" pointed toward organic brain degeneration—the kind that leads to cognitive decline and psychosis—while "praecox" referred to the early onset of the condition, which typically hit people in their late teens or early twenties...

Edgar Cayce didn't hold back when it came to describing how the brain actually deteriorates in people dealing with schizophrenia; his descriptions were pretty intense. He went as far as recommending specific treatments aimed at regenerating the nervous system entirely. He also acknowledged the mental and spiritual aspects of the disorder... which really adds a whole other layer to how you look at the condition.

Edgar Cayce’s psychic readings point to a whole laundry list of things that can trigger this. In certain instances, he pointed toward heredity being a big part of the equation. Then there’s physical trauma—things like nerve damage sustained during birth or even just a bad injury later on in life—which he highlighted as a massive contributing factor. He also frequently linked glandular issues directly to pathologies within the nervous system. On top of all that, he suggested that toxicity within the body could play a role in driving the illness forward...

The treatments recommended by Edgar Cayce were pretty standard for anyone dealing with nervous system incoordination. Osteopathic care popped up on his list more often than not. He’d also frequently suggest things like electrotherapy, hydrotherapy, suggestive therapeutics, companion therapy, and even focusing on the therapeutic milieu—basically, making sure the patient's environment wasn't working against them...

Here’s a breakdown of how Edgar Cayce viewed schizophrenia...

When we talk about the diagnosis of "schizophrenia," we really aren't talking about one single thing. It’s actually a broad umbrella term that covers a whole spectrum of related illnesses, all of which have their own unique causes and wildly different outcomes...
Look, we really need to stop ignoring the fact that there's a massive biological component to this disorder. If you aren't addressing the somatic side of things during treatment, you're basically just spinning your wheels... it's a fundamental part of the equation that can't be bypassed.
While the symptoms of schizophrenia stem from things going wrong in the brain, the actual causes usually boil down to much broader, systemic dysfunction...
Within the physical body, multiple systems are usually involved in the schizophrenic process—we’re talking mainly the central (cerebrospinal) and autonomic (sympathetic) nervous systems, along with the endocrine (glandular) system...
When things take a turn for the worse and the disorder settles into a chronic state, I hate to say it, but the outlook isn't exactly great. We're talking about actual brain degeneration here, which makes the whole thing incredibly difficult to reverse once it takes hold... However, if you can catch it early and jump on treatment immediately, the prognosis improves significantly. It really all comes down to how fast you act...
When you start looking at how schizophrenia actually develops, you can't just ignore the genetic component—it plays a massive role. But let’s be clear: genetics aren't some simple, one-size-fits-all blueprint. It’s way more nuanced than that. You have everything from "innate" traits, where the condition is almost certain to show up no matter what else happens, all the way down to mere "tendencies." That second part is basically that inherited vulnerability we talk about in the diathesis-stress model... where the genes set the stage, but other things have to pull the trigger...
It’s pretty widely accepted now that pregnancy and birth complications play a massive role in the actual roots of schizophrenia... It's not just some random occurrence; there's a real connection there between what happens during gestation and how things develop later on.
Spinal injuries and various other types of somatic dysfunction actually play a pretty significant role when it comes to triggering psychotic symptoms... it’s definitely one of those key etiological factors that people tend to overlook.
Let’s be real for a second—stress is often an important etiological factor in the production of schizophrenic symptoms... it’s basically the fuel to the fire.
The human body contains interfaces with spiritual and men... These specific connection points actually live right within our glandular and nervous systems. If you run into chemical imbalances or deal with any kind of physiological injury to those systems, it can completely throw these centers out of whack, which ends up triggering the psychotic symptoms we see in schizophrenia...
Treating schizophrenia isn't something you can just tackle with a single pill and call it a day. You really need to look at the whole picture—a holistic approach that hits all the bases: spiritual, mental, and physical. We're talking about everything from osteopathic or chiropractic work and massage to electrotherapy, diet, and actual human companionship. It’s about the therapeutic environment, hypnotic suggestion, staying active through exercise, and, of course, pharmacology. It's a massive, multi-layered puzzle...
When you look at Edgar Cayce's whole approach, he’s always bringing in these heavy spiritual and metaphysical ideas—things like karma or even spirit possession. Now, you don't see these transpersonal elements popping up in every single case study, which leads me to think they might just be extra layers of complication within the pathological process, rather than being core features unique to schizophrenia itself...

TREATING SCHIZOPHRENIA

If we’re sticking to the holistic vibe found in the Edgar Cayce readings, the following model looks at healing through the lens of the body, the mind, and the spirit. To put it as simply as I can, you could map out the approach like this:

1. You start by building a therapeutic environment that leans heavily into "spiritual" virtues—think things like patience, kindness, and selfless service—while making sure there’s actual room for the person to grow. We also really push for getting outdoors into the sun and fresh air. Sometimes, having a dedicated companion is pretty much a requirement to keep that supportive atmosphere going.
2. Next, you move into the physical side of things to tackle the core biological roots of the disorder. This means using manual therapies (like chiropractic work, osteopathy, or massage), electrotherapy (using things like vibratory metals), along with a solid diet, regular exercise, and the right medications. These are huge pieces of the puzzle when treating schizophrenia physically.
3. Then, there's the mental rebuilding phase. We use suggestive therapeutics to help rewire and redirect how the client processes things. This involves mixing various cognitive and behavioral tools with naturalistic hypnosis, basically working under the guiding principle that "the mind is the builder."

THE MYSTICAL SIDE OF SCHIZOPHRENIA

Joseph Campbell once pointed out that while a mystic might be swimming through deep waters with total joy, the schizophrenic feels like they're drowning in those exact same waves. Edgar Cayce actually hit on this same idea in his readings...

Now, Cayce was a mystic himself, so he was no stranger to those deep waters. The whole philosophy behind his psychic readings fits right into that "perennial philosophy" tradition. And just like any version of that school of thought, Cayce’s take on things is incredibly broad and all-encompassing.

When you step back and look at the big picture, terms like "dementia praecox" or "schizophrenia" aren't even that old. People across all cultures and eras have always recognized what we call insanity. What really makes the modern perspective unique is how we choose to interpret the different types of psychosis.

To really wrap our heads around why we see things this way, we have to look at the worldview—even the cosmic outlook—of different cultures, both ancient and contemporary. It all comes down to what we believe about where we came from, the nature of existence, and the purpose of life. Basically, what do we even consider to be "real"?

Mainstream medical science, including the field of psychiatry, is built entirely on a materialistic view of the world. In this view, if something is real, it has to be physical—or at the very least, something you can measure with a tool. From a purely materialistic standpoint, reality is all about substance.

That’s actually a massive point when you're trying to judge whether someone is sane. Honestly, the standard clinical tests used to determine sanity are heavily biased toward this materialistic interpretation. As it turns out, if you're "out of touch" with the material world, psychiatry officially labels you as psychotic.

The Edgar Cayce readings regarding schizophrenia do recognize that people dealing with psychotic symptoms are disconnected from material reality, making it tough for them to handle everyday life. Because of that, Cayce did view schizophrenia as a legitimate illness. However, he also pointed out that these individuals are often closer to a "universal" or divine consciousness than most "sane" people are.

To wrap his head around the mystical elements of schizophrenia, Cayce frequently pulled from the perennial philosophies of various cultures and eras (things like Hinduism or yoga). That’s why you’ll see his readings mention concepts like kundalini, karma, or even possession.

The various treatments Cayce suggested weren't just about fixing the nervous system or improving coordination; they were also designed to help the person stay anchored in the physical world. There was a heavy focus on simple, physical tasks to help these individuals feel more present in their own bodies and more connected to the world around them...29>>

David McMillin just dropped two different books that dive into Edgar Cayce's take on schizophrenia. If you're looking for something heavy and academic, *The Treatment of Schizophrenia: A Holistic Approach* is written in that formal APA style—perfect if you want the deep dive. On the other hand, if you prefer something a bit more grounded in real life, *Case Studies in Schizophrenia* walks through the actual people who reached out to Edgar Cayce for help dealing with the disorder. You can grab both from the A.R.E. Press over in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

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Kenneth Fowler Kenneth Fowler Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#2068 ·
Hi everyone

My mom is struggling with schizoaffective disorder—mixed type. She’s currently on Depakote and Seroquel, though they don't seem to be working the best... If anyone here deals with this or knows someone who does, I'd love to hear what medications they're using.

Thanks!
Kevin Evans2 Kevin Evans2 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jun 2009
#2069 ·
briskgull27 said:Well, my massive ego just noticed there’s yet another page
dedicated to schizophrenia, though it wasn't started by a SCHIZOPHRENIC !!!!!

Personally, I find meeting new people to be quite a challenge.
Will they notice something is off?
Will they take things the wrong way?
I actually really cherish those initial moments when I'm getting to know someone before I ever mention it.
During that time, I feel like I can just be myself.
But once they find out, suddenly everyone starts walking on eggshells around me, and ugh, it’s exhausting.
Don't go calling me a lunatic—I'm far too mature for an asylum.
However, I have definitely had experiences where people just vanished the moment I told them.🙂
Sometimes it's a little stressful, but honestly, I don't mind it too much.😎

I am so disillusioned with the world and its people. Based on everything I've read about you so far, I think I'd much rather spend time with you than with today's so-called "normal" society. I see a psychiatrist myself; my diagnosis is an adjustment disorder... this is actually my first time reading about schizophrenia.

I wanted to ask something else because we suspect my mother might be dealing with schizophrenia. She's 49 years old, and her behavior isn't rational or sober at all. For the last ten years, she's been having hallucinations, convinced that someone is stalking her, following her, and spying on her. Because of that, she's constantly changing her phone numbers—in fact, I don't even know her current number. She cycles through partners like she's changing diapers; ever since my father passed away back in 1998, she's torn through marriages and can't seem to live without sex, sleeping with whoever comes along. She's picked fights with every neighbor and friend we have, she doesn't hold down any responsibilities, and her house is a total disaster zone, yet she just goes out to parties, singing, laughing, and dancing as if she doesn't have a single care in the world. Another thing we've noticed is that she lies incessantly—about everything. She lies so much that she actually starts to believe her own fabrications. When we suggested she might need to see a psychiatrist, she just started crying and screaming, insisting she isn't crazy and that we aren't going to lock her up in a mental institution. There's more to it, but I won't ramble on! Do you think this could also be schizophrenia?
Daniel Ortiz7 Daniel Ortiz7 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jul 2009
#2070 ·
I’ve spent my entire life battling my father’s schizophrenia... and let me tell you, it’s the kind of disease that destroys everything in its orbit. Growing up, I actually had everything I ever wanted—it was almost a pattern. In those brief windows when he was actually taking his medication and tethered to reality, he would try to "make up" for the psychological trauma he put us through by buying me things. To the outside world, you’d never guess he was struggling at all; he works as a social worker and has this huge circle of friends. But nobody—and I mean absolutely nobody—has any clue about the literal hellfire of living with schizophrenia behind closed doors.
And now? I’m terrified that I’m starting to feel the fallout of spending twenty years living in the shadow of someone with this condition.
My mom is constantly preaching to me, telling me not to let him ruin my youth or my future. I really do try—I genuinely strive to stay upbeat and optimistic, fighting to keep from being swallowed whole by it all—but I’m scared. I’m scared that these internal fears, these deep-seated wounds and scars, might never truly heal. And the hard truth is this: you simply cannot help someone with schizophrenia if they don't want to be helped. Period.
Angela Morgan3 Angela Morgan3 Member
14 messages
joined Jul 2009
#2071 ·
Is he actually able to work? I mean, usually when someone is dealing with an illness like this, it pretty much implies they can't really function—either professionally or just socially in general
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Dec 2008
#2072 ·
I just stumbled upon this article—not sure if any of you have seen it yet...

"...Diagnosing schizophrenia currently relies on patient history and psychiatric evaluations. To be honest, what actually triggers the condition remains a massive mystery to doctors. Some data suggests the illness is linked to dopamine levels and the density of dopamine receptors sitting on the surface of nerve cells.
Post-mortem analyses of nerve cells show that the number of dopamine receptors on their surface can be significantly higher in patients living with schizophrenia.
According to research by prof. sara fuchs, a more streamlined way to diagnose the condition involves measuring the number of dopamine receptors on lymphocytes.

Researchers compared receptor counts in lymphocytes between schizophrenic patients and healthy individuals, but they found that even this method makes diagnosis incredibly complicated. However, scientists at the Broad Institute in Israel have discovered a potential new diagnostic path: measuring the levels of specific molecules in the blood that regulate receptor production. It turns out that in the blood of people with schizophrenia, the levels of these molecules are 3.6 times higher than in healthy individuals.

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Joshua Lewis9 Joshua Lewis9 Member
24 messages
joined Jan 2009
#2073 ·
I’m right there with you, but I can't help wondering what things will look like when that hallucination module actually goes live—maybe by the 25th century...

here's a little something for Angela Morgan3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du3D_T8Is9Q
crimsonfox5 crimsonfox5 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jul 2011
#2074 ·
My brother deals with this illness, taking medication and getting an injection every two weeks.
Still, despite all that, I sometimes get the feeling he uses his condition as an excuse for other things.
There is a fine line between being sick and just being rude. He actually brags about his "medical pass,"
And for now, he’s still working, mostly because some colleagues tolerate him and just
"go along to get along." But the moment anyone disagrees, it turns into insults, verbal abuse, or even property damage. Unfortunately, unless he spends some
time in one of those mental health facilities, there isn't much help available. He is lucky enough to still have a job, but he has already received two
formal warnings; if he messes up one more time, he'll be out on the street.
crimsonheron80 crimsonheron80 Active Member
103 messages
joined Apr 2009
#2075 ·
Daniel Ortiz7 said:I’ve spent my entire life battling my father’s schizophrenia... and let me tell you, it’s the kind of disease that destroys everything in its orbit. Growing up, I actually had everything I ever wanted—it was almost a pattern. In those brief windows when he was actually taking his medication and tethered to reality, he would try to "make up" for the psychological trauma he put us through by buying me things. To the outside world, you’d never guess he was struggling at all; he works as a social worker and has this huge circle of friends. But nobody—and I mean absolutely nobody—has any clue about the literal hellfire of living with schizophrenia behind closed doors.
And now? I’m terrified that I’m starting to feel the fallout of spending twenty years living in the shadow of someone with this condition.
My mom is constantly preaching to me, telling me not to let him ruin my youth or my future. I really do try—I genuinely strive to stay upbeat and optimistic, fighting to keep from being swallowed whole by it all—but I’m scared. I’m scared that these internal fears, these deep-seated wounds and scars, might never truly heal. And the hard truth is this: you simply cannot help someone with schizophrenia if they don't want to be helped. Period.

There's just no helping you there.🤷
crimsonheron80 crimsonheron80 Active Member
103 messages
joined Apr 2009
#2076 ·
crimsonfox5 said:My brother deals with this illness, taking medication and getting an injection every two weeks.
Still, despite all that, I sometimes get the feeling he uses his condition as an excuse for other things.
There is a fine line between being sick and just being rude. He actually brags about his "medical pass,"
And for now, he’s still working, mostly because some colleagues tolerate him and just
"go along to get along." But the moment anyone disagrees, it turns into insults, verbal abuse, or even property damage. Unfortunately, unless he spends some
time in one of those mental health facilities, there isn't much help available. He is lucky enough to still have a job, but he has already received two
formal warnings; if he messes up one more time, he'll be out on the street.

As long as he's working and staying out of trouble, fine...😉
rustydriver7 rustydriver7 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Aug 2009
#2077 ·
briskgull27 said:This condition is honestly so overwhelming that even doctors hesitate to officially write down an F20 diagnosis on your medical records.
I personally can't wrap my head around what exactly makes my experience so "abnormal," and truthfully, I don't even want to find out since it's a lifelong journey.
I've been dealing with this for ten years now.
People often compare managing it to living with diabetes.
It’s such a heavy burden that you'll occasionally run into someone offering "alternative" cures just to get their foot in the door.
A doctor friend of mine once explained that it's sometimes referred to as "cancer of the soul."
As for me, I don't really have any desire to fully embrace that "reality."
That's all for now! 👏
Would you actually want to have a close friend or a family member living with schizophrenia?

I would accept a friend dealing with schizophrenia, yes, but I wouldn't want a family member to be suffering from it (given they haven't been afflicted thus far, and since they are already older, it seems unlikely they ever will😛). In truth, had they been struggling with it, I would stand by them just as I do now, if not more so.

I am in daily contact with individuals with schizophrenia who are in good remission, and I can say only one thing: they are wonderful. I truly care for them and would do anything for them. In many ways, they are more human, more grateful, and more kind-hearted than the rest of us who consider ourselves "normal." Granted, that is a bit of a generalization, but my impression is... quite beautiful...
James Myers39 James Myers39 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Sep 2009
#2078 ·
I have a sister who has been battling schizophrenia and bipolar disorder for five years now. Living with someone in that state is an absolute nightmare, and I found myself nodding along to everything Darak 7 and Sad-gril were saying... These individuals often possess such massive egos—which is precisely why they fall ill in the first place—because they demand to be the center of the universe at all times. No matter what you sacrifice or attempt to do for them, it is never enough, primarily because they simply refuse to engage in the recovery process. I have poured so much of my time, my finances, my strength, and my very soul into trying to help her that I am now starting to experience my own mental health struggles, yet I haven't even managed to help her... That is why your mother, Sad-gril, is absolutely right; you have to live your own life and refuse to let anyone drag you down into the abyss, regardless of whether it is a father, a brother, or a sister. For me, the atmosphere in my house became utterly unbearable, which forced me to move out, and I can finally say I feel better now that I have escaped that crushing psychological pressure... It is especially devastating when you realize that you are powerless to save someone who does not want to be saved.
Jesse Sullivan2 Jesse Sullivan2 Active Member
58 messages
joined Dec 2010
#2079 ·
James Myers39 said:I have a sister who has been battling schizophrenia and bipolar disorder for five years now. Living with someone in that state is an absolute nightmare, and I found myself nodding along to everything Darak 7 and Sad-gril were saying... These individuals often possess such massive egos—which is precisely why they fall ill in the first place—because they demand to be the center of the universe at all times. No matter what you sacrifice or attempt to do for them, it is never enough, primarily because they simply refuse to engage in the recovery process. I have poured so much of my time, my finances, my strength, and my very soul into trying to help her that I am now starting to experience my own mental health struggles, yet I haven't even managed to help her... That is why your mother, Sad-gril, is absolutely right; you have to live your own life and refuse to let anyone drag you down into the abyss, regardless of whether it is a father, a brother, or a sister. For me, the atmosphere in my house became utterly unbearable, which forced me to move out, and I can finally say I feel better now that I have escaped that crushing psychological pressure... It is especially devastating when you realize that you are powerless to save someone who does not want to be saved.

Look, schizophrenia isn't something that happens because of a big ego, greed, being promiscuous, or just being selfish...
it's an actual disease caused by brain dysfunction on a biological level...
think of it like diabetes. Would you really be mad at someone because their body doesn't produce enough insulin?!
Whether schizophrenia or diabetes develops depends on lifestyle choices, sure, but it also comes down to biological predispositions—and honestly, half the time it has nothing to do with how a person acts...

I'm saying this because I get the feeling you're feeling pretty angry, disappointed, and just totally drained from dealing with your sister.
It's normal to feel exhausted... maybe you haven't quite figured out how to view her through the lens of her being sick...
but it feels unfair to say she has a huge ego and just wants attention.
That could be her personality, totally separate from the illness... but if it *is* coming from the sickness, then what you wrote isn't fair...

Your mental struggles are your own struggles. Your sister has a medical condition.

All she really needs from you is some understanding.
James Myers39 James Myers39 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Sep 2009
#2080 ·
You’re right to be angry, because I am personally feeling nothing but fury, disappointment, and sheer exhaustion. While I truly empathize with my sister's medical condition, I simply cannot wrap my head around how her illness seems to manifest exclusively when dealing with our family, yet conveniently vanishes whenever she needs to go out with her boyfriend without a single panic attack or bout of anxiety... It is always somehow our fault—whether it's because we don't have enough money or because we don't live in a major metropolis like New York City. Since her boyfriend lives in a different state, she demanded we create total chaos in our household until we finally shelled out the cash for her to rent an apartment just so they could be together. Because it's just me and my dad working, this has become an immense burden on us, especially given the current economic crisis here in the States, as we are footing the bill for her private psychiatrist and all her medications. When I finally hinted that I might not be able to continue subsidizing her rent, she accused me of being unsupportive and cruel, claiming I didn't understand her and even threatening self-harm... Yet, when she heads off for the weekend to see him, she goes completely dark on her phone for days, acting as if we don't even exist. Every time it's her birthday, she expects whatever expensive gift she wants, and her wishes are anything but modest. Meanwhile, she never remembers our birthdays; she won't even send a simple text message. When I told her how much that hurt, she just brushed me off saying, "What do you want from me? I have no money," which is a blatant lie, as she certainly has enough for a text... On one occasion, I tried to stay over at the apartment—which, mind you, I am paying for—and she flatly refused, telling me she couldn't because her only joy is being alone with her boyfriend and I was "ruining" it for her. She isn't working, despite her psychiatrist stating she is perfectly capable and that having some form of employment would actually be beneficial for her recovery. When our grandmother passed away, she claimed she couldn't attend the funeral because the stress was too overwhelming, yet when a friend of hers died, she was there day and night, seemingly unaffected by any stress at all. I honestly can no longer distinguish where the illness ends and where pure rudeness and manipulation begin. I understand that psychosis involves a distorted perception of reality, but I cannot comprehend how that reality functions so selectively... and perhaps we, as a family, have also failed to set proper boundaries regarding her condition. I no longer know what is what.

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