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Schizophrenia - General Discussion

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hollowtinker18 hollowtinker18 Active Member
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#2121 ·
Nicholas Gomez27 said:Is there any truth to the idea that you can manage schizophrenia using herbal remedies?

Also, how does LSD actually impact someone dealing with schizophrenia?

I'm really curious to hear about your personal experiences with this—thanks a ton for sharing.

Hardly. Maybe if it's an acute episode. And besides, what makes you think LSD would even touch schizophrenia?
Experiences? Just take a walk over to Saint John in San Francisco, near Sparrow and the surrounding areas.
wanderingangler90 wanderingangler90 Member
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#2122 ·
hollowtinker18 said:Empty eyes, like they're just glancing past you. Between the rigid limbs and that robotic walk, I honestly wonder if they even realize how much they're suffering.

That’s actually catatonic schizophrenia, which is a specific type of schizophrenia. A friend of mine deals with schizophrenia, though it isn't the catatonic variety.
hollowtinker18 hollowtinker18 Active Member
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Andrew Wood5 said:You describe them perfectly. It is because of people who are actually sane but still face stigma. It makes things harder for them. Their condition worsens because their surroundings are bizarre, especially when they are stuck only dealing with negative symptoms. And they aren't even at fault for their illness. It's their parents. They wounded them during their most vulnerable years—back when you should have been held and loved, instead, those elders treated them worse than animals. And God gave them that life. God is truly unjust.

.There's a theory that schizophrenia mostly hits during puberty, triggered by repression or high-stress agents, while other theories point to chemical imbalances in the brain—and let's face it, the brain is still the least understood organ we've got.
If you're, say, the first patient admitted to the psych ward, you're usually under constant watch by doctors or nurses even if it doesn't feel like it—monitoring your meds and all. That phase is called observation; staff needs a few days to gauge your status before starting any actual treatment. Once things stabilize and you stay consistent with your meds, life can be relatively normal. But, if you mess up—due to the illness or just forgetting—and skip your doses... the sickness comes knocking again. If the staff decides you can't manage your own meds anymore, you'll get stuck with depot injections that last 3-4 weeks, meaning you're back in the clinic every single month.🙂
hollowtinker18 hollowtinker18 Active Member
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#2124 ·
wanderingangler90 said:That’s actually catatonic schizophrenia, which is a specific type of schizophrenia. A friend of mine deals with schizophrenia, though it isn't the catatonic variety.

Can you actually describe what catatonia, or catatonic schizophrenia, looks like? (even if it's just based on how your friend acts).
wanderingangler90 wanderingangler90 Member
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#2125 ·
hollowtinker18 said:Can you actually describe what catatonia, or catatonic schizophrenia, looks like? (even if it's just based on how your friend acts).

I am probably not the best person to ask since I have only seen one case; my friend has schizophrenia, but he doesn't get stiff or walk around like a piece of furniture, so he isn't experiencing that catatonic stupor or anything like that. I really shouldn't be considered a reliable source because I haven't witnessed it firsthand.
Your best bet is to look it up on Google.
Sarah Wilson95 Sarah Wilson95 Regular
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#2126 ·
hollowtinker18 said:Empty eyes, like they're just glancing past you. Between the rigid limbs and that robotic walk, I honestly wonder if they even realize how much they're suffering.

From talking to them, I've learned that they actually are aware of everything.😢🙄 Under the influence of their medication, they reach a point where they can clearly perceive their entire situation, yet there is absolutely nothing that can be done to fix the way they walk—much like Professor Balthazar—or address that frozen expression on their face (that’s just my way of putting it, so please don't take offense), or the intense muscle rigidity...🤷

Honestly, that part is even more devastating. They understand exactly what is happening, but they are powerless to change it because the brain can't command the body anymore; the neurological pathways are essentially blocked, leaving the mind to simply sit there while we expect it to stop producing nonsense or trying to formulate grand, cosmic plans that it simply cannot execute.🙄
It's truly terrifying.
Andrew Wood5 Andrew Wood5 Member
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#2127 ·
wanderingangler90 said:I am probably not the best person to ask since I have only seen one case; my friend has schizophrenia, but he doesn't get stiff or walk around like a piece of furniture, so he isn't experiencing that catatonic stupor or anything like that. I really shouldn't be considered a reliable source because I haven't witnessed it firsthand.
Your best bet is to look it up on Google.

Stupor is essentially a total absence of will. It’s extreme melancholy. You can slide right into it from a deep depression if some massive stressor hits you. If we look at mythology—and let's face it, mythology describes plenty of psychological states—we see the story of Echo, the girl who mourned for Narcissus. Her grief was so profound she lost the ability to speak or even move.
swifthawk23 swifthawk23 Member
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#2128 ·
My ex-husband is living with schizophrenia, and now he’s ended up in a nursing home where it feels like nobody has the tools—or the will—to actually help him.
velvetsailor26 velvetsailor26 Active Member
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#2129 ·
Perzijka;24125790 said:
It’s like they aren't even responsible for their own struggles; instead, we blame the parents who wounded them when they were just infants—back when you were still being cradled and kissed, those same people were treating them with less care than a stray dog on a rainy street corner...

And

is there actually any hard scientific data linking this kind of upbringing to schizophrenia, or are we just talking about a potential predisposition?
swifthawk23 swifthawk23 Member
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#2130 ·
lamija;25338476 said:
Andrew Wood5 said:You describe them perfectly. It is because of people who are actually sane but still face stigma. It makes things harder for them. Their condition worsens because their surroundings are bizarre, especially when they are stuck only dealing with negative symptoms. And they aren't even at fault for their illness. It's their parents. They wounded them during their most vulnerable years—back when you should have been held and loved, instead, those elders treated them worse than animals. And God gave them that life. God is truly unjust.

It hasn't been definitively proven—but then again, my ex-husband had an absolutely wrecked childhood, dealing with a mother who was eerily silent and completely self-absorbed, plus a father who was being treated terribly in a federal penitentiary—so I can't say there isn't some truth to the theory.
Larry Howard8 Larry Howard8 Active Member
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#2131 ·
waka;25338712 said:
velvetsailor26 said:It hasn't been officially proven, but my ex-husband had a pretty rough childhood too. He dealt with an eerily silent, self-centered mother and a father who was sent away to a federal penitentiary. So, I think there might be some truth to the theory.

Do any of you have kids?
Are you worried they might end up dealing with this too?
swifthawk23 swifthawk23 Member
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#2132 ·
Larry Howard8;25338942 said:
swifthawk23 said:It hasn't been definitively proven—but then again, my ex-husband had an absolutely wrecked childhood, dealing with a mother who was eerily silent and completely self-absorbed, plus a father who was being treated terribly in a federal penitentiary—so I can't say there isn't some truth to the theory.

I've got two kids—one from my previous relationship—and frankly, I’m not losing any sleep over it. There hasn't been any actual proof that this thing is hereditary, after all.
velvetsailor26 velvetsailor26 Active Member
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#2133 ·
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/psychosis/symptoms-causes

I’ve been digging through this article about psychosis—and look, I know I’m not exactly some teenager—but I can't quite wrap my head around this one part. It says here: "Psychosis can be defined as a state of mental distress characterized by a progressive detachment from reality, a process that the individual isn't even aware they are undergoing "

The thing is, I am painfully, fully aware of my own descent into madness
which, honestly, is just... damn.
velvetsailor26 velvetsailor26 Active Member
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#2134 ·
So, I just took one of those psychological assessments, and according to the results, my cognitive abilities sit somewhere slightly above average.

But honestly, what does that even matter when everything inside my head feels like a complete disaster?

I can't help but feel like people who aren't as sharp have it much easier... I actually envy them a little bit.

They don't have to deal with this constant, exhausting nightmare playing on loop in their minds like I do.
Jamie Martinez6 Jamie Martinez6 Newcomer
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#2135 ·
velvetsailor26 said:http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/psychosis/symptoms-causes

I’ve been digging through this article about psychosis—and look, I know I’m not exactly some teenager—but I can't quite wrap my head around this one part. It says here: "Psychosis can be defined as a state of mental distress characterized by a progressive detachment from reality, a process that the individual isn't even aware they are undergoing "

The thing is, I am painfully, fully aware of my own descent into madness
which, honestly, is just... damn.

The second you realize what's happening, you aren't psychotic anymore. ☕
velvetsailor26 velvetsailor26 Active Member
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#2136 ·
Jamie Martinez6 said:The second you realize what's happening, you aren't psychotic anymore. ☕

So, I’m sitting there in my follow-up appointment, and the doctor drops this line about me having "psychotic elements." Honestly, it just went completely over my head. I've been staring at the ceiling trying to wrap my brain around what that actually implies, because, frankly, none of it makes any sense to me.

I’ll probably have to sit down and hash this out with her for a bit.☕
Larry Howard8 Larry Howard8 Active Member
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#2137 ·
velvetsailor26 said:So, I’m sitting there in my follow-up appointment, and the doctor drops this line about me having "psychotic elements." Honestly, it just went completely over my head. I've been staring at the ceiling trying to wrap my brain around what that actually implies, because, frankly, none of it makes any sense to me.

I’ll probably have to sit down and hash this out with her for a bit.☕

Just remember, psychosis doesn't always mean schizophrenia.

Though, if I'm being real, that's the part that scares me the most.

😲
velvetsailor26 velvetsailor26 Active Member
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#2138 ·
Larry Howard8 said:Just remember, psychosis doesn't always mean schizophrenia.

Though, if I'm being real, that's the part that scares me the most.

😲

I’m not actually afraid of it... honestly, there are moments where I almost wish I had it, just so I wouldn't have to be so painfully aware of my own head right now.
Larry Howard8 Larry Howard8 Active Member
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#2139 ·
velvetsailor26 said:I’m not actually afraid of it... honestly, there are moments where I almost wish I had it, just so I wouldn't have to be so painfully aware of my own head right now.

Maybe deep down you kind of want to be "crazy,"
just so you can blame the illness for why you aren't getting things done...

🤷
velvetsailor26 velvetsailor26 Active Member
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#2140 ·
Larry Howard8 said:Maybe deep down you kind of want to be "crazy,"
just so you can blame the illness for why you aren't getting things done...

🤷

Oh, really?😲
Give me a break, that’s honestly one of the dumbest things I’ve heard in a long time.

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