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Schizophrenia - General Discussion

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briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#561 ·
Dear Dr. House,
I am writing to you because I am worried about my son. He’s always had his quirks, but lately, things have taken a dark turn. He claims he’s hearing voices when he’s alone—voices that are urging him to commit horrific acts, even suggesting he kill me. It feels like he's truly losing his grip on reality. My friends are all pushing me to have him hospitalized, and honestly, even he seems to realize he needs professional psychiatric help. What’s the best way to handle this?
– Buggin’ in Buffalo

Dear Buggin’,
Let's not be naive here. Believe me, putting your son through psychological treatment won't do him any good. I say this with the benefit of knowing the actual history of psychiatry, which has consistently failed to help anyone. It lacks any real scientific foundation. Back when I was quietly finishing my doctorate in psychology with a focus on psychiatric history at Harvard University, I was stunned to realize the entire field lacks scientific validity. Furthermore, during my undercover time as a professor of mental disorders and Advanced neurochemistry AT Johns Hopkins, I discovered the whole concept of a "chemical imbalance" is a myth. Your son might just be acting out, or perhaps he's dealing with a severe vitamin deficiency. If I were you, I’d just get him some orange juice and a good multivitamin; he'll likely be back to normal in no time.

I'll admit, I'm a pretty great actor
but man, when I was feeling soooooo booooooreddddddddddddddd
crimsonhound80 crimsonhound80 Active Member
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#562 ·
Jon said:OK, let me be brief, but look—underneath all that, "reality" as some objective truth just doesn't exist. Not as something convenient, not as something inconvenient... it simply doesn't. Reality is always subjective, which means everyone is essentially living in their own private little universe.

Now, I consider myself a perfectly sane individual, and I truly believe that schizophrenia isn't a "disease" in the way we usually define them—and frankly, I don't think it should even be treated like one..

Maybe briskgull27 can tell us what happens when she stops taking her meds, Jon. And while we're at it, I'll tell you about what happened with a colleague's father—about 20 years ago now—who lived with schizophrenia.

So, this guy—his father—goes over to visit some friends with his wife. They’re having a nice dinner, everything is fine, except he hasn't taken his medication for a few days because he was feeling "fine," you know? Then, the man heads to the restroom.
On his way, he hears these suspicious voices—that's how he described it later—coming from one of the rooms.
He walks into the room, and there's this tiny, strange little creature laughing and talking to him--I'm going to kill you all, I've been watching you for months and finally the end has come.

The man—this schizophrenic patient, I mean—just absolutely lost it. He grabbed this "creature" right out of the bed, threw open the window, and tossed him straight out.

Thankfully, this "strange creature" landed in some bushes next to the house (thank God it wasn't a high floor), so he was okay, just some scrapes and bruises. 😎

That EVIL CREATURE was actually a two-and-a-half-year-old child.


I honestly don't know how you could view that as anything other than a disease that needs medical intervention. You just have to hope that science eventually finds an effective way to suppress schizophrenia completely, so these sudden, violent shifts in behavior stop happening.
Taylor Howard36 Taylor Howard36 Active Member
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#563 ·
So, I ran into an old friend today... and I end up asking him—out of nowhere, I know—if he knows anyone dealing with schizophrenia. He looks at me like I’ve lost my mind and goes, "No, but I have a neighbor who has it!" This guy is only 22, and apparently, he was diagnosed back when he was 18... honestly, it feels like everyone gets hit with that diagnosis right at 18!!!!! 😬 My friend mentioned he can be a little eccentric sometimes—mostly just because he tends to burst into tears mid-conversation, which is a lot to handle—but otherwise, he seems like a decent enough guy. 🙂
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#564 ·
crimsonhound80, darling 😘 have you noticed those strange provocateurs popping up lately? Honestly, they’d probably believe their own nonsense if they weren't so busy being miserable😘
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#565 ·
Hi Anna. It’s funny, I rarely actually cry—I tend to laugh more—yet somehow it still manages to move you to tears too.😘
Taylor Howard36 Taylor Howard36 Active Member
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#566 ·
And this guy? He’s a bit of a wet blanket...😬
btw, I just realized you're actually quite the life of the party! 😍
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#567 ·
All I can really wrap my head around is that life is just too short and fleeting to sweat the small stuff, right? 🙂 :asshole: LIFE IS A BITCH
mistybison mistybison Regular
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#568 ·
crimsonhound80 said:He walks into the room, and this tiny, bizarre creature is just sitting there, laughing at him and saying—I’m going to kill you all; I’ve been watching you for months and now it’s finally over.

The schizophrenic—essentially, the man just snapped, grabbed that "creature" from the bed, opened the window, and tossed it out.

That is what truly confuses me. 😕 This man is clearly intelligent, serious, and mature; he knows such creatures don't exist. So why wasn't his first instinct to call his wife and ask if she saw it too? (Most people would do that when facing something unexpected.) It seems then that a person experiencing schizophrenia isn't aware the hallucination is unreal; instead, the hallucination takes total control. He loses his grasp on himself and reality, landing in a dream-like state where anything is possible. Or is he? 🤔

(Sorry to be a bother. 😁 )
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#569 ·
That story is twenty years old; it’s nothing more than a broken record.
I’m honestly a bit of a mess, and if someone actually showed up like that, I’d feel like I was trapped in a Ghostbusters movie! I definitely wouldn't forget such a wild experience, let alone try to toss a ghost right out the window.
Honestly, seeing enough gross stuff just toughens you up after a while.😂 😂 ☕

No, no, no—this is definitely not some dream.
mistybison mistybison Regular
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#570 ·
outoftheblue said:That story is twenty years old; it’s nothing more than a broken record.
I am quite unsettled by the idea, and if someone actually showed up like that, I’d feel like I was living in a Ghostbusters movie. I certainly wouldn't forget such a fascinating experience, let alone try to toss a ghost out a window.
Watching enough horror movies actually builds up a certain level of courage.😂 😂 ☕

No, no, no—it definitely isn't a dream.

Then can you learn to live with it, accepting that these are things that simply don't happen to most people?
Angela Harris5 Angela Harris5 Newcomer
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#571 ·
outoftheblue said:It's not like everything else? No, every illness is its own thing.
I could argue that storing up negative emotions causes cellulite, but I’m actually interested in your take on this.
The Matrix?
Manipulation?
?????????????????????????

Well, yes. But I certainly didn't mean to upset you—quite the opposite, actually.
The Matrix? Sure. Manipulation? Absolutely. To the highest degree possible, over a long period, through subtle and tested means.

I don't know why... I just assumed it might be comforting to find someone who is medically sound and finds this kind of explanation acceptable. My intuition tells me that's how it works. (Much like how I now realize there is little point in discussing this with someone who doesn't believe me...)
Andrew Harris7 Andrew Harris7 Active Member
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#572 ·
I spoke with my therapist today about those intrusive thoughts. Every time one of those irrational scenarios hits or I dwell on something embarrassing, my legs start aching—like someone is driving a nail straight into them.
Taylor Howard36 Taylor Howard36 Active Member
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#573 ·
Andrew Harris7 said:I was talking to my therapist today about how whenever those insane intrusive thoughts start racing through my head—or even just thinking about something embarrassing—my legs start aching, almost like someone is driving nails into them.

Just get moving! Start hitting the abs and doing some squats!😬
At least give it a shot if you're just hanging out at home. 😉
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#574 ·
Maleficent said:So, can you eventually learn to live with it—to just accept that you're experiencing things most people never have to deal with?

Aside from having my own opinions and staying quiet about them, I don't suffer from hallucinations or anything like that.
That line above was meant for you.


I started this thread because schizophrenia has completely upended my life five different times.
I'm not the same person I used to be, and I know I never will be again. Right now, things feel even harder than before.
Andrew Harris7 Andrew Harris7 Active Member
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#575 ·
He keeps me hanging for a couple of days and then I’m ghosted for two weeks straight.😍
I'm hitting the gym hard now, in my second month, and since I'm getting my ID renewed, I might just go over there and give him a piece of my mind.😍
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#576 ·
ijon said:Well, you're right. But honestly, I didn't mean to upset you—it was actually quite the opposite.
The Matrix, manipulation... yeah, you've got a point there. It’s been happening on a massive scale for a long time, and it's incredibly subtle and well-tested.

I'm not sure why, but I thought it might be comforting to know there's someone out there who's medically sound and finds this explanation reasonable. I just feel it intuitively. (Though, I suppose there's no sense in trying to discuss this with someone who doesn't believe me...)

And hey, I'd love to have my seventh chakra in direct contact with God too, but even if it isn't, I think I'll manage!
😍
Taylor Howard36 Taylor Howard36 Active Member
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#577 ·
Andrew Harris7 said:That keeps me going for maybe two days, and then—boom—nothing for two weeks straight.😍
And now I’m hitting the gym again, right in my second month, and man, if I can just get my membership extended, I might actually stick with this instead of quitting.😍

Honestly, I'm the exact same way. 😬 😂
Go for it at the gym—I went last year myself😍 just watch out so you don't end up getting too bulky.... 😬I hit it for two months and my muscles popped out so much it was actually kind of ridiculous😢 right before summer started😠 but by autumn, everything had already gone back to being totally normal.😍 😬

Regarding what I mentioned about doing stuff at home (like sit-ups and squats)—you seriously don't need to crank out 100 or 200 reps... just do 20 and call it a day.... I personally love doing ab workouts... so when I'm in a bad mood, I'll knock out 20 or 30 and that's plenty... after that, I feel great!
Taylor Howard36 Taylor Howard36 Active Member
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#578 ·
briskgull27, seriously, where on earth is Vrbic? 😂The woman basically fled the scene because we all went absolutely ballistic on her! 😂 😂 😂

Vrbic, where are you hiding?!?!? 😬 😕
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#579 ·
Oh, I’ve already forgotten my password
It's actually wild how much more chaotic and delusional the discussions on those other forums are compared to this one
Did you ever happen to check out my thread about healing through intimacy? I think the image fits perfectly
.🙄 🙄 🙄
mistybison mistybison Regular
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#580 ·
briskgull27 said:I started this thread because schizophrenia has completely upended my life five different times.
I am not the same person I used to be, and I never will be again. Right now, things feel even worse.

What do you mean by "worse"?

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