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Carol Barrett2 Carol Barrett2 Regular
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joined Jul 2017
#7361 ·
Joseph Fowler33 said:Looks like I’m not the only one dealing with F.20.0 over here. Is anyone else getting Trevicta prescribed? Also, I'd love to hear what medications you guys are on and which hospitals or clinics you usually head to for your checkups.
Best,

I'm on four different kinds, six times total—Motrin x2, Zoloft x1, Prilosec x2, and Xanax x1. Honestly, I don't even bother with regular checkups. This stuff almost completely wiped us out over here. I just head to the Community Health Center once a year; otherwise, the hospital bills are just too much.
Joshua Parker76 Joshua Parker76 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Dec 2021
#7362 ·
I’m just taking 1mg of Risset at night, and I only bother with check-ups once every three years... honestly, there's no point in going when all I ever tell them is that I'm doing fine.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
732 messages
joined May 2023
#7363 ·
Emily Cook8 said:Harold Anderson3, where you at? It's been forever. Give us a shout, man!

Hey everyone, I'm actually out in the field right now near a small town in Florida. I've been keeping up with the forum, but I just haven't really had anything specific to say, so I've been a bit quiet. 🙂

My regimen—morning: Lamictal, Prilosec, Zoloft
evening: Lamictal, Lariam, Seroquel
as needed: Ativan, Celexa
Emily Cook8 Emily Cook8 Member
12 messages
joined Oct 2022
#7364 ·
Sent you a DM so we don't clog up the thread. 🙂
Sandra Lee2 Sandra Lee2 Member
22 messages
joined Aug 2021
#7365 ·
Hello. I am looking for information regarding methods to assist individuals living with schizophrenia that do not rely solely on antipsychotics. I am specifically interested in non-pharmacological approaches. Are there alternative medications available, or perhaps specific types of therapeutic interventions?
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
732 messages
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#7366 ·
Hi there, I should probably mention that those specific methods don't actually exist. In my experience, unless the antipsychotic medications aren't quite doing the trick on their own, they're typically used alongside a few other supportive approaches rather than being replaced by them.
Sandra Lee2 Sandra Lee2 Member
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joined Aug 2021
#7367 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:Hi there, I should probably mention that those specific methods don't actually exist. In my experience, unless the antipsychotic medications aren't quite doing the trick on their own, they're typically used alongside a few other supportive approaches rather than being replaced by them.

What other methods are you aware of? Perhaps I misstated my point, but there are supposedly helpful techniques mentioned here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8888596/
Non-pharmacological interventions for schizophrenia — analysis of treatment guidelines and implementation in 12 US states

Fine. Aside from antipsychotics, what would actually be recommended for someone living with schizophrenia?
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#7368 ·
Sandra Lee2 said:What other methods are you aware of? Perhaps I misstated my point, but there are supposedly helpful techniques mentioned here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8888596/
Non-pharmacological interventions for schizophrenia — analysis of treatment guidelines and implementation in 12 US states

Fine. Aside from antipsychotics, what would actually be recommended for someone living with schizophrenia?

When medication doesn't quite do the trick, doctors often turn to electrical stimulation—what people commonly call electroshock therapy, which is mostly handled at major facilities like the Mayo Clinic.
It’s certainly not the terrifying stuff you see in old movies, though. The patient is placed under anesthesia and a controlled voltage is passed through the brain, and nowadays we even have incredibly sophisticated devices designed to target only the specific areas most affected by the condition.

Back in the day, they used to try things like insulin shock therapy or even lobotomies, but those methods are obviously completely outdated now.
So, alongside antipsychotics, what else would actually be recommended for someone living with schizophrenia?

Honestly, anything that provides support. Psychotherapy, maintaining a healthy diet, staying physically active—but perhaps the most vital thing of all is trying not to retreat into oneself or let the illness take complete control. In my own experience, I found my way through it by staying busy with work. For me, having a sense of purpose through employment was everything.
For some, that might mean an office job, while for others, it could be art or something entirely different.
fadedhound86 fadedhound86 Member
17 messages
joined Jan 2022
#7369 ·
I honestly think TMS could be a real game-changer for dealing with schizophrenia too...

By the way, Diego, I find myself scrolling through your posts on this sub all the time; you’re such a huge source of inspiration for those of us out here fighting our own mental health battles. 🙏

Sent from my mobile device using Reddit
Carol Barrett2 Carol Barrett2 Regular
363 messages
joined Jul 2017
#7370 ·
For me, ideas are basically pure inspiration—they’re what keep me going—it's just a shame that nobody ever seems to listen when I bring them up.
Ethan Clark3 Ethan Clark3 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2022
#7371 ·
Has anyone here tried using a ketogenic diet to help manage their condition?
Over the last few years, there’s been more and more evidence suggesting that keto can really improve mental health—for some people, it has even completely cleared up schizophrenia symptoms.

In this video, a professor from Harvard breaks down exactly how it works:
Dr. Chris Palmer: Diet & Nutrition for Mental Health

According to Google:
The guest on this episode is Chris Palmer, M. D., a board-certified psychiatrist and assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He discusses the vital link between nutrition, metabolism, and mental health, along with his pioneering work using the ketogenic diet to successfully treat patients with various mental illnesses, including depression and schizophrenia. Dr. Palmer explains how the ketogenic diet is an evidence-based treatment for epilepsy, mimics fasting states, and may help offset cognitive decline in Alzheimer's disease. He describes the key role mitochondria play in mental health, how certain conditions likely stem from mitochondrial dysfunction, and how low-carb diets boost mitochondrial turnover to improve mental wellness. He also covers how low-carb diets positively impact the gut microbiome and weight loss, risk factors for mitochondrial health like marijuana and alcohol, and the best ways to increase circulating ketones based on individual needs. We also touch on how a ketogenic diet affects mood, sleep, and fertility. Dr. Palmer's work offers a revolutionary approach to mental health and illness that, given the prevalence of mental health challenges, should interest people of all ages and backgrounds.
fadedhound86 fadedhound86 Member
17 messages
joined Jan 2022
#7372 ·
Ethan Clark3 said:Has anyone here tried using a ketogenic diet to help manage their condition?
Over the last few years, there’s been more and more evidence suggesting that keto can really improve mental health—for some people, it has even completely cleared up schizophrenia symptoms.

In this video, a professor from Harvard breaks down exactly how it works:
Dr. Chris Palmer: Diet & Nutrition for Mental Health

According to Google:
The guest on this episode is Chris Palmer, M. D., a board-certified psychiatrist and assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He discusses the vital link between nutrition, metabolism, and mental health, along with his pioneering work using the ketogenic diet to successfully treat patients with various mental illnesses, including depression and schizophrenia. Dr. Palmer explains how the ketogenic diet is an evidence-based treatment for epilepsy, mimics fasting states, and may help offset cognitive decline in Alzheimer's disease. He describes the key role mitochondria play in mental health, how certain conditions likely stem from mitochondrial dysfunction, and how low-carb diets boost mitochondrial turnover to improve mental wellness. He also covers how low-carb diets positively impact the gut microbiome and weight loss, risk factors for mitochondrial health like marijuana and alcohol, and the best ways to increase circulating ketones based on individual needs. We also touch on how a ketogenic diet affects mood, sleep, and fertility. Dr. Palmer's work offers a revolutionary approach to mental health and illness that, given the prevalence of mental health challenges, should interest people of all ages and backgrounds.

This sounds pretty fascinating, I think I'll take a look...
David Hall6 David Hall6 Newcomer
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#7373 ·
Since my thread Children of Schizophrenic Parents was shut down, I have to keep posting about this specific intersection of schizophrenia and toxicity here:

- Imagine you sprain your ankle badly. You're wearing a brace and using a crutch—it's obvious to anyone looking. But to a toxic, narcissistic schizophrenic parent, it doesn't exist. They refuse to acknowledge it. They send you off to work anyway, and after ten minutes of limping around with a visible brace, you finally find the nerve to say, "Can't you see I can't work like this?" Instead of empathy, they just grit their teeth in disappointment at you and walk away, giving you the silent treatment because they feel insulted by your physical condition.

That’s just one example, and honestly, there are countless more.

It's like suggesting real estate as a safe way to invest. You bring it up, and since they used to work in that field before retirement, they take offense if it isn't done exactly according to their dictates. They’ll tell me I’m crazy or that I have fixed ideas, even threatening me with psychiatric intervention. Later, when the opportunity passes and I lose money, it’s as if the conversation never happened. It's like they have no memory of what we discussed.

I once offered to settle things by paying them $1,000 an hour to talk in front of a recording device or a witness—just so our positions are documented and can be defended in court or before a psychiatrist. They just laughed and ran away.

They claim I've never consulted professional medicine, even when I hand them dated lab results and reports with my name on them from actual doctors. They look right at the material evidence and the witnesses and insist it never happened.

Just try to imagine living with people like that. It takes an incredible amount of mental strength, willpower, and discipline just to endure it all.

Schizophrenia isn't just one thing that people think they understand. It’s a spectrum of symptoms, the most glaring being the inability to think logically or connect with reality. There is a complete disconnect between the things happening in their heads and the actual world they live in.
Joshua Parker76 Joshua Parker76 Newcomer
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#7374 ·
Ethan Clark3 said:Has anyone here tried using a ketogenic diet to help manage their condition?
Over the last few years, there’s been more and more evidence suggesting that keto can really improve mental health—for some people, it has even completely cleared up schizophrenia symptoms.

In this video, a professor from Harvard breaks down exactly how it works:
Dr. Chris Palmer: Diet & Nutrition for Mental Health

According to Google:
The guest on this episode is Chris Palmer, M. D., a board-certified psychiatrist and assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He discusses the vital link between nutrition, metabolism, and mental health, along with his pioneering work using the ketogenic diet to successfully treat patients with various mental illnesses, including depression and schizophrenia. Dr. Palmer explains how the ketogenic diet is an evidence-based treatment for epilepsy, mimics fasting states, and may help offset cognitive decline in Alzheimer's disease. He describes the key role mitochondria play in mental health, how certain conditions likely stem from mitochondrial dysfunction, and how low-carb diets boost mitochondrial turnover to improve mental wellness. He also covers how low-carb diets positively impact the gut microbiome and weight loss, risk factors for mitochondrial health like marijuana and alcohol, and the best ways to increase circulating ketones based on individual needs. We also touch on how a ketogenic diet affects mood, sleep, and fertility. Dr. Palmer's work offers a revolutionary approach to mental health and illness that, given the prevalence of mental health challenges, should interest people of all ages and backgrounds.

Look, I get that food can impact your mental state, but the idea that it’ll just delete schizophrenia symptoms? No way. When I asked my psychiatrist how much longer I'd be stuck on antipsychotics, he basically told me: "Just be glad we actually have decent meds available."
Nicholas Barnes74 Nicholas Barnes74 Active Member
60 messages
joined Jun 2020
#7375 ·
David Hall6 said:Since my thread Children of Schizophrenic Parents was shut down, I have to keep posting about this specific intersection of schizophrenia and toxicity here:

- Imagine you sprain your ankle badly. You're wearing a brace and using a crutch—it's obvious to anyone looking. But to a toxic, narcissistic schizophrenic parent, it doesn't exist. They refuse to acknowledge it. They send you off to work anyway, and after ten minutes of limping around with a visible brace, you finally find the nerve to say, "Can't you see I can't work like this?" Instead of empathy, they just grit their teeth in disappointment at you and walk away, giving you the silent treatment because they feel insulted by your physical condition.

That’s just one example, and honestly, there are countless more.

It's like suggesting real estate as a safe way to invest. You bring it up, and since they used to work in that field before retirement, they take offense if it isn't done exactly according to their dictates. They’ll tell me I’m crazy or that I have fixed ideas, even threatening me with psychiatric intervention. Later, when the opportunity passes and I lose money, it’s as if the conversation never happened. It's like they have no memory of what we discussed.

I once offered to settle things by paying them $1,000 an hour to talk in front of a recording device or a witness—just so our positions are documented and can be defended in court or before a psychiatrist. They just laughed and ran away.

They claim I've never consulted professional medicine, even when I hand them dated lab results and reports with my name on them from actual doctors. They look right at the material evidence and the witnesses and insist it never happened.

Just try to imagine living with people like that. It takes an incredible amount of mental strength, willpower, and discipline just to endure it all.

Schizophrenia isn't just one thing that people think they understand. It’s a spectrum of symptoms, the most glaring being the inability to think logically or connect with reality. There is a complete disconnect between the things happening in their heads and the actual world they live in.

So, who actually has the diagnosis here? Is it the parents, one parent, or is it you?
I don't really get it. What's the point of this topic? If you're having this much trouble, just distance yourself from your parents—unless you're a minor, obviously. But based on everything I'm reading here, it sounds like maybe the issue is actually with you.
Ethan Clark3 Ethan Clark3 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2022
#7376 ·
Joshua Parker76 said:Look, I get that food can impact your mental state, but the idea that it’ll just delete schizophrenia symptoms? No way. When I asked my psychiatrist how much longer I'd be stuck on antipsychotics, he basically told me: "Just be glad we actually have decent meds available."

It’s probably hard to draw any solid conclusions right now, maybe because there aren't enough clinical studies yet, but I guess these examples are worth noting:
New study: Severe mental illness improves on a ketogenic diet
A psychiatrist in France is seeing incredible results in hospitalized patients. :
Depression and psychosis symptoms improved in all 28 patients who followed the diet for more than two weeks, with changes appearing within three weeks or less. About 43% of patients reached clinical remission, and 64% were discharged from the hospital needing fewer psychiatric medications. Dr. Danan has never seen this level of improvement before—even with patients he's treated for years or decades, most of whom had been hospitalized under his care multiple times.

An article by Harvard professor Chris Palmer
Chronic schizophrenia put into remission without meds

"The focus shifted toward bioenergetics—essentially how brain cells produce energy. It's well-documented that people with schizophrenia are three times more likely to develop diabetes. There's a common debate about whether antipsychotics cause this, since they are known to lead to weight gain and diabetes. However, recent research suggests that isn't the whole story. It seems even those newly diagnosed with schizophrenia may already show insulin resistance, even if they haven't developed diabetes yet. This implies their brains might not be getting enough energy from glucose. Other brain studies have uncovered metabolic issues, such as increased inflammation and oxidative stress.

The medical version of the ketogenic diet is a high-fat, low-carb, moderate-protein regimen that has proven effective for epilepsy. In my article, I explain how the ketogenic diet can help stop seizures by looking at its history and the research showing it as a powerful intervention for epilepsy. Don't let the word 'diet' fool you; this is a potent medical intervention. Studies indicate that over 50 percent of children with drug-resistant epilepsy see a significant drop in seizure frequency and severity, with some becoming seizure-free.

Using epilepsy medications in psychiatry isn't anything new. Anticonvulsants are frequently used to manage psychiatric disorders. Examples include Depakote, Lamictal, Tegretol, Neurontin, Topamax, and all benzodiazepines (like Valium and Ativan, which are typically prescribed for anxiety). These anticonvulsants are routinely used in treating various psychiatric conditions..."
Sandra Lee2 Sandra Lee2 Member
22 messages
joined Aug 2021
#7377 ·
Ethan Clark3 said:Has anyone here tried using a ketogenic diet to help manage their condition?
Over the last few years, there’s been more and more evidence suggesting that keto can really improve mental health—for some people, it has even completely cleared up schizophrenia symptoms.

In this video, a professor from Harvard breaks down exactly how it works:
Dr. Chris Palmer: Diet & Nutrition for Mental Health

According to Google:
The guest on this episode is Chris Palmer, M. D., a board-certified psychiatrist and assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He discusses the vital link between nutrition, metabolism, and mental health, along with his pioneering work using the ketogenic diet to successfully treat patients with various mental illnesses, including depression and schizophrenia. Dr. Palmer explains how the ketogenic diet is an evidence-based treatment for epilepsy, mimics fasting states, and may help offset cognitive decline in Alzheimer's disease. He describes the key role mitochondria play in mental health, how certain conditions likely stem from mitochondrial dysfunction, and how low-carb diets boost mitochondrial turnover to improve mental wellness. He also covers how low-carb diets positively impact the gut microbiome and weight loss, risk factors for mitochondrial health like marijuana and alcohol, and the best ways to increase circulating ketones based on individual needs. We also touch on how a ketogenic diet affects mood, sleep, and fertility. Dr. Palmer's work offers a revolutionary approach to mental health and illness that, given the prevalence of mental health challenges, should interest people of all ages and backgrounds.

A healthy mind requires a healthy body. Proper nutrition matters, and it might just help.
David Hall6 David Hall6 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2023
#7378 ·
Nicholas Barnes74 said:So, who actually has the diagnosis here? Is it the parents, one parent, or is it you?
I don't really get it. What's the point of this topic? If you're having this much trouble, just distance yourself from your parents—unless you're a minor, obviously. But based on everything I'm reading here, it sounds like maybe the issue is actually with you.

😵 You clearly have some massive issues if you can say something like that after seeing those specific examples. It's honestly painful to read.
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
254 messages
joined Jul 2014
#7379 ·
David Hall6, this is the third time I'm asking: do your parents actually have a schizophrenia diagnosis? Or were they just terrible parents, and you've decided to slap a bunch of mental illnesses on them just to be spiteful?

From now on, I’m going to flag any posts about "schizophrenics." Go demonize mental illness somewhere else.
mellowwalker59 mellowwalker59 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2020
#7380 ·
Honestly, just hearing a diagnosis of schizophrenia can be terrifying... It’s more than just a medical condition, though—it feels like a sentence. When people want to hurt someone, they wish a schizophrenia diagnosis on them. Someone carrying that label often faces a harder life than someone behind bars. But look, schizophrenia isn't an absence of emotion, or some kind of "evil" state, or a void where nothing exists. It usually shows up as a reaction—kind of a trigger response to the world around us. It tends to surface after trauma, injustice, or abuse. People living with this aren't stupid, and they aren't malicious or dangerous to others. If anything, they are most dangerous to themselves... They tend to withdraw because they feel unnecessary or misunderstood, and they're painfully aware of their diagnosis and how everyone else perceives them. People jump to conclusions about everything based on that label, but once you have it, you're stuck with it forever, even if the psychotic episodes don't happen again. These folks are suffering twice over. Is it truly their fault they ended up sick?
And if I could say one thing to anyone who's received this diagnosis: many of you didn't deserve to have that on your record. Just be certain that, eventually, it will be used against you. A friend tells a best friend, and suddenly the whole country knows. Anyway, thanks to the admin for at least looking out for us by banning those hateful comments and the stigma...

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