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Love and Loving
Started by Jack Wood43 · · 👁 4 views · 45 replies
#2 ·
Yeah, I’m curious about this too.
Why is it that we say parents "love" their children, yet they "adore" God or their spouse?
Does that imply that adoration is a higher tier of affection than love—or is it actually the other way around?
If you fall in love with someone, does that automatically mean you’ll adore them?
And if you already adore someone, can you ever actually transition into that deeper state of loving them?
Why is it that we say parents "love" their children, yet they "adore" God or their spouse?
Does that imply that adoration is a higher tier of affection than love—or is it actually the other way around?
If you fall in love with someone, does that automatically mean you’ll adore them?
And if you already adore someone, can you ever actually transition into that deeper state of loving them?
#3 ·
Claiming to "love God" is mostly just idolatry...
Love and affection are nothing more than mere words...
Besides, what good is any theory...?
It exists only so you can categorize things, so you can pick a side? 😉
Once you experience it in practice... once you feel it, live it, and truly become it...
these kinds of questions won't even exist anymore. 🙂
Love and affection are nothing more than mere words...
Besides, what good is any theory...?
It exists only so you can categorize things, so you can pick a side? 😉
Once you experience it in practice... once you feel it, live it, and truly become it...
these kinds of questions won't even exist anymore. 🙂
#4 ·
... I don't really get it, but fair enough...
"Love" is a noun, but does "loving" actually function as one in that sense?
I mean, "to love" is a verb... and maybe "adoring" is just a more intense version of that.😕
To me, they all basically mean the same thing—it’s just about how you choose to put it into words.
LOVE😘 is such an abstract concept that words can't even touch it. It's the most perfect feeling there is.
There's definitely a massive difference between being infatuated and truly being in love, though. That much is true!
"Love" is a noun, but does "loving" actually function as one in that sense?
I mean, "to love" is a verb... and maybe "adoring" is just a more intense version of that.😕
To me, they all basically mean the same thing—it’s just about how you choose to put it into words.
LOVE😘 is such an abstract concept that words can't even touch it. It's the most perfect feeling there is.
There's definitely a massive difference between being infatuated and truly being in love, though. That much is true!
#5 ·
Jack Wood43 said:Does love precede the act of loving?
Or rather, what is the origin point 😕?
It shouldn't necessarily be viewed as a binary distinction, but if we are going to split them into two separate concepts—then I’d say love is the potential, while loving is the expression, the flow, the actual effect... much like the difference between raw electricity and the current itself.
#6 ·
Hannah Thomas13 said:Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Well, you have a noun and a verb describing the exact same thing.
I’m no linguistics expert—but isn't love a noun?
To love is the verb.
So, isn't the noun just the state of loving?
Now, grammar isn't really what we're debating here. I suspect the thread starter was actually pointing toward an emotional distinction—something even I don't fully grasp, even though I can certainly tell the difference between the two states in practice.
I mean, I love blueberry muffins, I love my pets, I love a bright sunny day, and so on.
But when I say: "I love my children," that is—emotionally speaking—not the same level at all.
It's a completely different depth.
The same goes for me; I can't say "I love God," even though I can say I love my husband, my friends, or my buddies.
As for the whole chicken and egg debacle, I recently read that it was actually scientifically proven in the States that the chicken came first.
I suppose that brings us back to that old joke:
"Dad, they taught us in school that humans evolved from monkeys!"
"Well son, if that's true, then I certainly didn't!"
#7 ·
Jonathan Brooks8 said:It doesn’t have to be viewed as a contradiction, but if you’re going to split them into two distinct concepts, then this is how it works: love is the potential, whereas loving is the expression—the actual flow. It’s like the difference between electrical voltage and an active current.
That’s a solid way to put it. To be honest, I hadn't really looked at it from that angle before.
#8 ·
Chris Peterson53 said:I’m no linguistics expert, but isn't love just a noun?
And loving is the verb,
essentially the noun version of the action?
Anyway, grammar isn't really what we're debating here. I think the person who started this thread was talking about the emotional difference between the two, which is something even I struggle to wrap my head around—even though, deep down, I can feel the distinction.
For instance, I love eating blueberry muffins, I love my pets, I love a sunny day, stuff like that.
But when I say: I love my kids, that is a completely different
emotional level entirely.
It's the same way I can't say "I love God," even though I can say I love my husband, my buddies, or my girlfriends.
As for the whole chicken and egg debate, I read recently that it was actually scientifically?????? proven in the US that the chicken came first.
I guess it reminds me of that old joke:
"Dad, they taught us in school that humans evolved from monkeys!"
"Well son, if that's true, then I certainly didn't!"
To love can sometimes overlap with the concept of loving, but usually, it's used more as an incomplete verb form specifically describing a kiss.
#9 ·
Chris Peterson53 Jack Wood43 said:Yeah, I'm interested too.
Why is it that we say parents love their children, yet they worship God or adore their spouse?
So, are we saying that love is the higher plane, while "loving" is just the lower one?
Or the other way around?
Does loving someone actually mean you'll want to kiss them too?
Can you actually love someone, or is it possible to cross that line and reach true devotion?
🙂
So, that Henks guy tells this girl he used to love—the one who walked away from him—and she once told him:
Come on, Forrest Gump—you clearly have no idea what love actually is.
That really stung! Later on, he told her exactly how it was.
Maybe I’m not exactly a genius, but I sure as hell know what love is.
And then she asked him later, right before he passed—once it finally clicked that he was actually a decent man, better than anyone else she had ever known. hin She met him because he was honest.
Where have you been hiding? You've been dodging every argument lately. How are things going over there? Even she was out there walking the walk.
She should just tell him straight. He’s been fighting battles both in times of peace and during the war.
He claims he saw the sky reflecting perfectly off the surface of the lake.
If the desert meets the ocean right where the sky touches the horizon—during that twilight hour, dawn or dusk, I can't quite recall the term—then we might actually have something worth talking about.
Even if you lump it all together into one single mess.
And even if it's beautiful.
And even then, she was genuinely happy that he had such a beautiful life.
She’s hurting, and honestly, she wishes more than anything that she could have stayed right by his side the whole time.
I told her, "Tom Hanks." Well, you showed up!
Who you love is your business! Don't go overanalyzing it. You don't need some big, brilliant brain to guide you through that—you just need an honest heart.
Sandokan is playing here at the local club. 🙂Can you actually believe this!? He was seeing Mary. Let’s throw him into the mix too—I found an English version of the lyrics, though the original song is in Italian.
Sandokan
Sandokan.
Warm and tender is The Love and People know The way to Love cruel and bloody is The War and People know How to make War but The People Can be unfair and there's
Warm and tender is The Love and People know The way to Love cruel and bloody is The War and People know How to make War but The People Can be unfair and there's
War is cruel and bloody.
Warm and tender is The Love and People know The way to Love cruel and bloody is The War and People know How to make War but The People Can be unfair and there's
Warm and tender is The Love and People know The way to Love cruel and bloody is The War and People know How to make War but The People Can be unfair and there's
And they’re completely on their own out there. No one is coming to save them.
I truly love my fellow Americans.
I have a deep, unshakable love for my country.
And everyone just seems to get it.
All in one place.
All together now.
Let's get to work. Together.
Hand in hand, let's head straight for the sun.
Sandokan
Sandokan.
Give me some warmth and i will be The One Sandokan.
Sandokan
Let me circle back to that Tom Hanks line from Forrest Gump.
-Maybe I'm not exactly a genius, but I sure as hell know what love is! ! !,
Maybe I messed up by dropping this topic in the philosophy subforum.😕 Either this topic is too sophisticated for the group, or maybe it’s just too scandalous for the intellectuals.🙂
So, is that how it works? Not a single one of these "intellectuals" is stepping up to help. Are these concepts really so abstract that they can't grasp them?
#10 ·
It’s because they’re abstract concepts—and I don't just mean in American English.
In other languages, you might find a massive variety of words for a single idea, but really, each one is just a different degree of the same thing.
We all understand what it means to love or to adore; we feel every subtle nuance perfectly well. But trying to capture that intensity in writing? That's a different story entirely. Besides, the sheer strength of those emotions isn't uniform from person to person—so, naturally, the meaning shifts for everyone. This isn't some lack of intellect, or heaven forbid, a lack of awareness; if anything, it's just the poverty of our own vocabulary.
As for you personally, I’m afraid you’ve completely missed the humor in the posts above.
Bringing up Forrest Gump isn't exactly the brilliant comparison you think it is.
But hey, if you want to explain to me exactly how the rest of us have failed so "stupidly," by all means... please, enlighten me.
In other languages, you might find a massive variety of words for a single idea, but really, each one is just a different degree of the same thing.
We all understand what it means to love or to adore; we feel every subtle nuance perfectly well. But trying to capture that intensity in writing? That's a different story entirely. Besides, the sheer strength of those emotions isn't uniform from person to person—so, naturally, the meaning shifts for everyone. This isn't some lack of intellect, or heaven forbid, a lack of awareness; if anything, it's just the poverty of our own vocabulary.
As for you personally, I’m afraid you’ve completely missed the humor in the posts above.
Bringing up Forrest Gump isn't exactly the brilliant comparison you think it is.
But hey, if you want to explain to me exactly how the rest of us have failed so "stupidly," by all means... please, enlighten me.
#11 ·
ocean view said:
Umberto Eco: "Even though I have a doctorate in aesthetics and I'm over seventy years old, I wouldn't dare define beauty. If I were to offer a definition of beauty, I would be nothing more than a common charlatan. Just as God can only be defined through negation, one could say the same about beauty." (New York Times, December 4, 2006).
Aside from the fact that I don't have a doctorate and I'm nowhere near seventy, I'd sign off on everything else he said. What about you? 😉
He says:
Beauty is a universal value!
😘Of course, it’s tied to love and the act of loving. 😘
Vision,
Objective, subjective... reality.
Or rather, knowledge regarding what is known (or perceived).
😕 🙂Or something along those lines.
#12 ·
insaninside said:Does love precede the act of loving?
Or what exactly serves as the catalyst 😕?
Think of it this way: loving is like having a smartphone.
Love itself is like the prepaid minutes you buy—it depends on how much you put in, whether it’s a $35, $50, $100, or $200 top-up.
Once you enter that code, the phone works, right?😉 😁
#13 ·
To’s another way of looking at it. A human being is merely a consumer of love. Love exists as its own independent entity. When someone loves a person or a thing, they are essentially just using that service, much like a mobile data plan. And if you want to move from those prepaid vouchers to a full monthly subscription... well, you've got to put in some actual work first.
#14 ·
I’m a big fan of Swiss chard, San Francisco, swimming, deep conversations, pinball, haiku, and even mushrooms...
Liking something is a positive—and quite often possessive—connection to a person or an object.
Love, on the other hand, is a relationship with the entire world, built on total devotion and unconditional acceptance.
It can be centered on one specific person or thing without shutting out everything else, but we shouldn't mistake it for mere infatuation or simple passion.
#15 ·
Love is really just a biological trick designed to ensure we reproduce and keep the human race going
it's essentially just an instinctual drive toward companionship and survival
it's essentially just an instinctual drive toward companionship and survival
#16 ·
briskgull27 said:Love is just a biological trick designed to get us to reproduce and keep the species going.
It’s really just about affection for the sake of coexistence and survival.
I honestly can't help but smile at these deeply "intellectual" posts from some seemingly jaded young soul, haha...
And then they deliver it with such absolute certainty, acting like it's just a hard fact and there's nothing more to be said about it. 😁
#17 ·
So, where did that big, tough executioner disappear to?
Anyway, there’s actually a specific word for our devotion to God... though I’m a little worried that if I say it out loud, my executioner might come after me and take my head off!
It’s kind of like how we have different ways to describe affection, such as the philosophy behind the word "filia," which refers to a sense of friendly love.
Think of filia as that selfless, platonic kind of love—just observing something beautiful and feeling enriched by its mere existence without needing anything in return.
On the other hand,
there’s the concept of "amo" (from the Latin amatoria), which is more about romantic passion—that intense, driven kind of love where you’re focused on a partner and pursuing a deeper connection.
Anyway, there’s actually a specific word for our devotion to God... though I’m a little worried that if I say it out loud, my executioner might come after me and take my head off!
It’s kind of like how we have different ways to describe affection, such as the philosophy behind the word "filia," which refers to a sense of friendly love.
Think of filia as that selfless, platonic kind of love—just observing something beautiful and feeling enriched by its mere existence without needing anything in return.
On the other hand,
there’s the concept of "amo" (from the Latin amatoria), which is more about romantic passion—that intense, driven kind of love where you’re focused on a partner and pursuing a deeper connection.
#18 ·
insaninside said:Does love come before physical intimacy?
Or which one actually sparks the other😕?
Love is the driving force behind everything.🙂
#19 ·
People talk about all these different kinds of Love—human, divine, whatever—and I can't help but wonder if we’re just slapping a label on some vague sensation, or if it's actually something else entirely... or maybe it's all just one big thing. We can sit around and philosophize about it all day, but honestly, most of the time it just leaves you completely speechless (which isn't a bad thing, really).
#20 ·
Everyone has that one special person they just adore... even if it’s only occasionally.
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