The psychology of folk music fans, finally explained

Sarah Scott68 said:If we keep going down this road, we might as well move this thread to Philosophy; clearly, we aren't going to agree on the logic here. Besides, intelligence itself is overrated and doesn't tell you much about someone's character. There are plenty of examples of highly intelligent people who lack basic integrity or haven't achieved anything in life, and vice versa.

I was simply using intelligence as an example—without getting bogged down in the complexities of IQ—to make my point that fans of country music are essentially just the average population.

Sarah Scott68 said:Without veering too far off track, although I think you can certainly glean certain traits from a person's musical taste, I don't believe it's possible to build a complete psychological profile based solely on what someone listens to. However, given the context, one could make some general—not individual—assumptions about country music listeners.

Personally, I think you can learn very little about a person from their music, especially if they listen to mainstream hits. You certainly won't find a psychological profile or specific personality traits through the lens of psychology.
If that were true, all these intensive questionnaires wouldn't exist; you'd just ask, "What do you listen to?"
How would that look?
- Psychologist: "What genre of music do you prefer?"
- Subject: "Well, uh... country, you know, like Ceca and stuff like that."
- Psychologist (scribbling and muttering to himself): Extroversion 90 percent, Psychoticism, 80 percent, Intelligence 90. Other traits include a tendency toward excess and maladaptive behavior. Irresponsible and lazy. Craves the spotlight.
- Psychologist (to the next subject): "And what kind of music do you prefer?"
- Subject: "I enjoy ambient, new age, Vangelis, Oldfield."
- Psychologist: "Extroversion 10 percent, Neuroticism 70 percent, Intelligence 120. Other traits include a predisposition toward hallucinogenic psychoactive substances, escapism, and neglecting bills.
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Just kidding. I wasn't trying to insult fans of any genre; I was just poking fun at the idea of profiling someone based on their playlist.

Sarah Scott68 said:And I suspect there is very little overlap between the population that listens to country and those who favor the more serious, demanding genres mentioned earlier.

... That's probably true.

Gerald Rivera60 said:- Psychologist: "What kind of music do you prefer?"
- Subject: "Well, uh... pop hits, you know, like Ceca and stuff like that."
- Psychologist (scribbling and muttering into his beard): Extroversion 90 percent, Psychoticism, 80 percent, Intelligence 90. Other traits include a tendency toward excess and maladaptive behavior. Irresponsibility and laziness. Craves being the center of attention.
- Psychologist (to the next subject): "And what about you? What's your music preference?"
- Subject: "I prefer ambient, New Age, Vangelis, Oldfield."
- Psychologist: "Extroversion 10 percent, Neuroticism 70 percent, Intelligence 120. Other traits include a tendency toward hallucinogenic psychoactive substances, escapism, and failing to pay bills."
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I think I see where you're coming from, and I suppose I agree. Besides, I already mentioned that

I think it's impossible to build a full psychological profile of someone based solely on their music choices.

Still, I suspect music does say something about a person; how else would you explain the fact that groups of people—whether it's two, five, or fifteen—who hang out together often share similar musical tastes? And if they are hanging out, it implies they get along, which probably means they have somewhat similar worldviews. So, to put it extremely simply, though perhaps slightly reductive, music equals worldview

The folks churning out those country hits—brilliant, really, turning just two chords and four lines into massive anthems

The people listening to them—simple, easygoing, zero demands

And then there’s the rest of us—just bitter because we aren't that uncomplicated

Gerald Rivera60 said:Personally, I don't think you can learn much about someone from their music taste, especially if they're just listening to whatever is on Top 40 radio. Especially when it comes to building a psychological profile or identifying specific personality traits through the lens of psychology ***********
If that were actually true, we wouldn't need all those massive, expensive assessments; we could just ask, "So, what's on your playlist?"
What would that even look like?
- Psychologist: "What genre of music do you prefer?"
- Subject: "Uh, well... probably country pop, you know, like Ceca and stuff like that."
- Psholog (scribbling away and muttering into his beard): Extroversion 90 percent, Psychoticism, 80 percent, Intelligence 90. Other traits include a tendency toward excess and maladaptive behavior. Irresponsible and lazy. Definitely loves being the center of attention.
- Psychologist (to the next subject): "And what kind of music do you prefer?"
- Subject: "I'm really into ambient and New Age... things like Vangelis or Oldfield."
- Psychologist: "Extroversion 10 percent, Neuroticism 70 percent, Intelligence 120. Other traits include a predisposition toward hallucinogenic psychoactive substances, escapism, and a chronic habit of not paying the bills."
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Just kidding (I didn't mean to offend any music fans; I was just poking fun at the idea of profiling people based solely on their Spotify Wrapped)

Jeeee, yet another post with a touch of psychology! 🙂

urbannomad12 said:The folks cranking out country hits—they’re geniuses, turning two chords and four lines into massive anthems.

The people listening to them? They just want things simple and uncomplicated.

And the rest of us? We're all just bitter because we can't live life that easily.

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Daniel Chavez14 said:Jeeee, yet another post with elements of psychology! 🙂

... People like that should really be dominating this thread, especially since it's located in the Psychology
subforum.
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I’d appreciate it if everyone involved in this discussion stays on topic. Let's steer clear of personal attacks and critiques like "you have no taste, you are ....".
Because I'm trying to keep this thread somewhat on track, a few—to put it mildly—chatty posts have been lost in the process.
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urbannomad12 said:The people churning out those mainstream country hits—they're geniuses, really. They can turn two measly notes and four lines of lyrics into a massive anthem.

😁 😁 sorry, but I haven't actually heard a musical HIT that was built on just two notes versus two tones. 🤣 🤣
:klap:
They’re absolute masterminds when they manage to pull a melody out of thin air using just two tiny little notes...🙂 🙂

No, sorry. To all sounds pretty much the same to me when it comes to the accordion. Are we talking about four notes or just tones?

If someone actually figures out why people obsess over country music, or really any genre for that matter, they might just stumble upon the meaning of life itself—and finally get an answer to those big, heavy questions like, "Why does any of this even matter?" or "What is the point of everything?"

Hey everyone, I’ve been lurking here and reading through all your posts pretty regularly, though I don't usually jump in to comment much. This time, however, I really wanted to pick your brains. For those of you who actually listen to artists like Ceca or Kmec—what is it about their music that actually hits home for you? Like, what specifically draws you in, why does it resonate, and what kind of emotions does it stir up when you're listening? I'm genuinely curious.

Thanks! 🙂

I listen to a lot of country music, but I rarely touch Ceca or Lepa Brena. They might have two or three songs that aren't half bad, but I usually stick to their newer stuff—the tracks that don't lean so hard on those old folk elements and actually have a decent beat for dancing. The modern stuff isn't quite as heavy on the accordion either; they've started swapping out the squeeze-box for other instruments in most of their hits.
As for me, I enjoy listening because the melodies are catchy enough, and honestly, after a few beers, it’s the perfect soundtrack...

Lisa Rodriguez84 said:...and after a few beers, it’s the perfect soundtrack...

Maybe that's the secret sauce behind folk music psychology?

Think about it: folk goes hand-in-hand with alcohol, techno and raves pair with ecstasy, rock hits different with cocaine, jazz pairs with Coca-Cola, and classical music belongs with sparkling water. 😁

Spot on...
Think jazz paired with some cocktails, but not at those wild, over-the-top parties—just something low-key and unpretentious.
Look, there’s a lot of truth in that, but it really makes you wonder: what's the actual motivation behind why people drink in the first place?

You could honestly take any country song and turn it into a parody—make it sound all classy and sophisticated if you wanted to.
Honestly, any "sophisticated" track can basically be boiled down to a country song—if you strip away all the pretension.
Honestly, it’s just the flair—that whole theatrical, over-the-top acting vibe—that sets them apart.
Who played her again? — I can't for the life of me remember.
No matter what I do—even if I’m just sitting there with a raspy voice, a shot of bourbon in hand, and my shirt unbuttoned—it all ends up on the table...
I’ll just take one look at my sweaty socks—it’ll definitely trigger some awkward vibes, unless everyone here is just being polite, I guess—so that’s probably the most relatable thing I can say.

I feel like music just hits different—it really resonates with our emotions, you know? Like, it actually touches something deep inside us.
Using music as a personality test seems like a pretty cool idea—though I know Mud Scientist is probably gonna have thoughts on that.
He's being ironic... (btw—do you guys wash your hands before every single meal? apparently that's a question on some personality test).
Tell me exactly which melody you listen to—not just the genre, but the actual tune—and I'll know if I should walk up to you or run for the hills.😲 😁

Keith Lee2 said:...by the way. Do you wash your hands before every meal? That was a question from a personality test.😁

That is actually a very specific question... not really meant to gauge personality (I prefer the term "character," but whatever), but rather to serve as a lie scale—one of the control metrics.

I see someone has been busy digging up old, stale topics. If you’re going to revive them, at least try to be constructive. Look, if you insist on bringing up old news, consider whether it actually makes sense. Ask yourselves if your post adds any value or elevates the discussion by exploring angles that haven't been covered yet.
If you're just going to regurgitate what’s already been said, don't bother. You can pad your post count in more appropriate subforums.

(Take this as both a warning and some friendly advice)

There’s a new thread over on the teens subforum—"What do you guys think about country music?"—and honestly, I have absolutely nothing bad to say about it...
Look, I’m just gonna quote someone else here because I really don't have the energy to rehash all this again... 😁

Lisa Rodriguez84 said:When I saw that every single post started with "I hate," I actually felt sick to my stomach... okay, I'm joking, but seriously, it's stupid to assume anyone who listens to country music is an idiot. It's impossible for everyone into country to be brainless or mentally challenged. I personally know people with incredible intellect and perfect pitch who don't just listen to it—they actually play it (for social gigs). And those people making a living from it? I know folks who can't make ends meet on their main salary, so they pick up extra gigs playing country at weddings to help support their families. Are they idiots too? Now I'm genuinely confused...

So, tell me... is there any truth to that?

Oh, and even though this topic keeps getting resurrected every few months, it's not actually a bad thing. Country music is still huge in America, so maybe someone will actually change their mind in the meantime and have a place to vent...

The point here isn't "what we think about folk music," but rather the Psychology behind it.
Setting aside aesthetics, economics, or anything else... my question is this:
Is there a shared psychological characteristic among people who listen to this genre?
(And before anyone brings up that annoying concept of a "psychological complex"
)... (To be clear, I'm not talking about moral or value judgments)

Gerald Rivera60 said:Is there some kind of shared psychological trait among people who listen to this kind of music?
(trying not to use that annoying term "psychological complex")

Absolutely not.
We recently joked with a professor, asking if he listens to country music, and he shot back: "Do I look like someone who listens to country?"
That’s actually a really interesting point, because there isn't some specific "uniform" you wear when you're heading to a honky-tonk. You can't just spot a country fan walking down a street in Chicago, unlike punks, rockers, or other subcultures...
So, I don't believe there's any common psychological trait here, because the listeners are all over the map. You get everyone from the high-society types to total wildcards... In those rural dive bars, you tend to see more of the rougher crowd, which is probably why people assume only "savages" listen to it. In the States, for example, you see these massive bar fights happen all the time—it's never just two guys brawling. It's that group cohesion... Everyone jumps in at once, usually because they're all from the same small town or the same neighborhood...

Lisa Rodriguez84 said:Not even close.
The other day, we jokingly asked one of our professors if he ever listens to country music, and he just looked at us like, "Do I seriously look like someone who listens to country?"
It’s actually an interesting point because there isn't some specific uniform or "look" for country fans. You can't spot a regular at a honky-tonk just by glancing at them on a street corner, unlike how you'd instantly recognize punks, rockers, or any of those other crowds...
I honestly don't think there's a single psychological trait that ties all these listeners together. It’s everyone. From the high-society types to the total wildcards... In those little rural dive bars, you tend to see more of the rougher crowd, so people get this idea that it's just for outlaws. Back home, for example, bar fights are pretty common because they almost never involve just two people. It's that group cohesion... Everyone jumps in at once, usually folks from the same small town or neighborhood...

There isn't a signature style because country fans are often just šminker—you know, people who don't really have their own distinct vibe or principles. They just wear and listen to whatever happens to be trendy at the moment (first it was rock, then it was Eminem and rap, now it's country and techno, and tomorrow it'll be something else entirely).

tupy said:So, basically, someone falls in love, hits up a country bar, and most of the songs perfectly capture exactly how they feel. Usually, those tracks either give you an answer or leave you hanging. People use the lyrics—well, by singing them—to vent what's on their mind. Grab a few more drinks, get in a better mood, and I guess it all turns into a weird kind of group therapy. Right?!

Then why isn't country music just as massive? It’s got all that stuff too—love, misery, struggle, joy, etc. I guess people just vibe with country better and whatever, you can't argue with taste.
In my opinion, country is just a passing fad. I feel like people listen to it way less than they did like 2 or 3 years ago. They showed up, and sooner or later, they'll fade out too.👍